so fast already ter-pancut

even X70 can last at least a month

hahahaha

what did he hit?

kemalangan kecil but the hood, side mirror already cost a few bucks to fix it.

Blue quite nice

Can't find the cause of this crash in Facebook.
My assumption is sideswiped by lorry.

i really wonder what did he hit, why is the damage so high up
that side mirror won't be cheap if it has motor inside

did he park at highway roadside to visit temple? cos ...

luckily headlamp still okay (that one will be most costly compared to side mirror or ketuk balik hood)

i too wondered what actually happen

this car not that good it is not

Inb4 plate number not fully censored

based on the fallen side mirror and the skit marks on the front left tire, it appears that the driver of this Aruz collided with another vehicle on the left. the fact that the side mirror got hit suggest that it a vehicle with a higher stature.

kemungkinan besar x70 because want to prove P2 better than P1.

the crunched up left front bonnet confirms it.

langgar bontot lori la tu

J

Some people really try to track down which is the "first [insert car model and manufacturer]" to get into an accident? Too free

Loan 9 tahun

Manatau related



This post has been edited by anuarnor: Feb 11 2019, 04:52 PM

God i hate that bontot.

Johor plate.

I think the Aruz might be p2’s first flop since a long time

This post has been edited by fabianz03: Feb 11 2019, 05:01 PM

x70 SA syukur now people stop posting x70 crash photos

p2 first flop is nautica

dude i know what you wanna provoke lol hahaha

I dont think so. Theres so many orders for this new Aruz, alot upgrading from Alza

ASA failed?

Hezeri Samsuri, the local motor journalist blame Proton for nautica's flop haha. Can't find the video anymore, but i sempat watch he was driving in aruz, then wanna story about nautica.

Dia claim Proton sakit hati, why national car go fully import from Japan, take shortcut ini P2. P2 kononnya gentleman, so they stopped selling because of it.

Kepala bapak kau. Nautica rm90k, even Rush was cheaper, and Rush had 7 seats while Nautica 5 seater. Nautica only have CBU Japan as its selling point, else Rush cheaper and bigger, who wanna buy P2? Lepas tu buat2 kata kononnya Nautica actually selling well, dalam bandar jualan ada, wanna deny the wiki entry about it sold less than 500 units.

Kononnya all these reasons Nautica failed are fake news spread by keyboard warriors paid by tongsan, while he's telling the truth and not paid at all. Dasar pembohong punya ini HS.

Dengki la tu kat Proton that X70 is selling quite well. Dah la he made defamatory claims against Proton a lot lately. One day i hope Geely may feel it is serious enough to sue his pants off.

i thought is rusa?

isn't he one of the Careta people right?

for PT crew (hafriz shah really support Proton)

autob0zz still the best for me.

The underpower is not a joke. Kena bash kaw kaw from Kon

It’s rare to see burukdua with non-fatal eksiden

perhaps he did it purposely.. nak jadi No.1 lettew

Yes, that's him. I vividly remember the video posted on careta website, but now gone. Kena kecam lettew.

Autobuzz syok, GC Mah is good reviewer.

lagista

Strong lower arm

nautica is like unicorn now..

rarely seen one on the road..

nonsense lah Hezeri. How can ageing unit more than 1 year if nautica so laku one until they have to sell firesale? Toyota doesnt allow as CKD of Terios will eat into Avanza pricing territory. those days Avanza 1.3 was doing really well as it was the cheapest Toyota they could buy until the owner discover sampan handling

dude i know what you wanna provoke lol hahaha

kek macam tin milo jeee

wow J driver

syukur bukan P

Shit, taking of this, ayam now in a grab bezza

Since a long time

Indeed, even rarer than Ferrari.

Lately he posts things like really wanna cari pasal with Proton/Geely. Some of his claims so bizarre, some so blatantly racist. Frankly Geely could sue i feel, but they ain't got time for this shit, busy trying to bring Proton back in black.

Recently he claimed X70 don't pay CBU tax, haha. X70 deliver 1,000 units kononnya tak heran, tapi tengok dia up Aruz deliver 1k+ units in 1 day bukan main.

Just a scratch....but why the aeb didnt trigger.

ASA 2.0


This post has been edited by bereev: Feb 11 2019, 07:05 PM

The color looks nice

Rusa sells well until avanza came out.
Most merchant/pasar malam biz using it. can still see some around pasar malam

TOPKEK!

didnt he so hardcore P2 fans tho

He super fanboy of that Madani guy of MAI, now MARII. That Madani aa, everytime pauline tan news about, sure make stupid statement ala Maslan.

I notice MAI initiatives kinda pro-P2. MAI actually got design studio, kononnya can be used to train people to then be hired by carmakers, but as i see it, it looks like only P2 on board it, it looks to me more like P2 use govt to save their cost and gain skilled workforce.

Then they got like vendor program, something about bringing vendor standard up to global standards. A notable activity they done before was visit Japan, signed some MoU, but also only P2 vendors and management team seen. This was before Geely bought Proton, so i don't think it was as inclusive as they tried to portray the program to be.

MAI i think was kinda instrumental to formation of MIROS, the body responsible for Asean NCAP. I remember P2 sponsored crash test dummies and other stuffs worth millions, since then P2 crash test result become better, yet in real world crash, u know i know la.

Now Proton under Geely, i suppose they do things their own way now. Even X70 launch event, Pauline Tan not the official livestreamer or event organiser. HS's racist nature become more apparent since. From that post also u can see he got beef about them bringing their people in.

Truth is, Proton become more MNC rather than tongsan. In an interview with Dr Li, he said they got many international key people from Japan, Germany, etc, but HS seems to single out tongsan, and keep attacking them from time to time, claim tongsan hire and pay cybertroopers la, what a jerk.

Any car that is Daihatsu related, I avoid

No matter how big they claim to be

To me Daihatsu will always be a TOY CAR.

who is this HS guy?

^

this guy facebook attachment

J plate boiisss

Who is this guy and what site is he running?

Could not be under pauline right coz pauline wouldn't directly attack proton because want to jaga their relationship.

Hezeri Samsuri, as far back as i remember, he started career as NST car, bike, truck section writer under bangau name. Then go to Top Gear Malaysia mag editor, now he runs careta malay website.

Can say if pauline is top english motor journalist, he is top malay motor journalist. But his review damn suck, i got watch before he do for some pijot car lulz too short and not comprehensive at all.

He always got lansi attitude, he like to perasan he smart, and when talk about orang biasa2, treat as if orang lain biasa2 are totally stupid and always wrong. See la how he so anti-proton, but never got guts to name them.

careta consider top? really?

i think Roda pusing review seem fair better, even that dude from ENGEAR also okay for Malay review
funny, informative, simple and understandable

Ok, maybe not top anymore, but he's like a pioneer lol.

Yes, other malay ones like Roda Pusing memang mantap, that Engear guy also pretty good, iianm the guy also associated with funtasticko. Oh yea, actually funtasticko is the real pioneer, but i don't think they got that many followers like others.

Edit : just checked, funtasticko got 70+k likes, roda pusing 40+k, careta almost 300k. Wow, funtasticko got pretty huge followers lol

This post has been edited by tokdukun: Feb 12 2019, 11:22 AM

wow this is new low by him. really got something in him that makes him so mad at P1. Kena sack ke dulu?

johorian. ok expected.

may b hit by x70

Eh they forgot ka Geely last time hire Hibi-san ex Toyota top gun to help them? and the head of manufacturing is ex MMC nihon-jin as well. and those ex president Skoda in the board as well in Proton. Good la P1 become MNC, they need volume and need to act like MNC not local vassal of DMC

pioneer of Lowyat University also...

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2410624

Ego. He thinks he's smart, everyone else stupid so he's the hero wanna educate and show off he knows, others all dunno.

Proton did hired him before as something like a consultant back in 2012. That was the year DRB took over, Preve was launched, the charismatic CEO DS Syed Zainal resigned (more like DRB kicked him out). We all know how shitty Proton during those era was? If he so good, why proton became shit? What advice he gave to Proton that ran it to the ground?

Now Geely wanna do the right thing, actually managed to convince thousands to buy a rather pricey Proton (but very good value vs its rivals), many local chinese buyers even! Yet he go and become racist arsehole. Look at his post, bajet pandai, pro-local, don't even have balls to call Proton/Geely by its name.

Taken from pauline interview with CEO Dr Li :

How do you deal with the perception that Proton is now a Chinese company, and no longer a company that’s more closely associated with Malaysians?

That’s totally incorrect. If there is any change in this context, Proton hasn’t turned into a Chinese company, but a multinational company. Why do I say that? It’s true that Geely has an interest in Proton but in terms of operation, it is not as you’d expect.

I’ll give you an example. At the Tanjung Malim plant, we have three Japanese engineers who head the operations there. Proton’s chief financial officer is a Canadian national. The design and styling department has British and French individuals who are also involved in providing input. Similarly, a few German and Indian nationals with their respective expertise contribute equally.

Our goal is singular: to improve Proton’s condition and restore it to its respected position as before. All these things we’ve discussed – and many other aspects of course – are the changes that are necessary to achieve that goal.

Dia bijak? Lu pikir la sendiri.

Recent Proton's CNY video greeting, he go and hanjing proton say "49.9..." in the comment section. His brother also comment "made in..."

He was commenting kesian director tu sorang2 je. The video got many top management people wishing CNY, just 1 malay and 1 japanese je lain than others. Actually only ceo is tongsan mali, others all Malaysian chinese.

He also claimed dulu iklan proton ada semangat muhibbah sekarang penuh bangsa ehem hahahaha, what muhibah ad? I never recall between 2012-2017 proton got muhibah ads, got cheesy KRU production ad for perdana, persona launch got la, wasting money je, they all flopped gak.

Proton saving money, use own top people to do ad, complaint tak muhibah, as if that gonna sell the cars, bodoh.

Just want to point out that 2006~7 Perodua trying to replace ageing face-lift sporty looking Kembara CT Aero.


It was selling at RM50~60K price range back then. Perodua did a trial run for Nautica 4x4 with 200 units locally produce bumpers and fully imported from Japan.

Locally produce bumpers meant local paint supplier also LAH, so body and bumper color if you find one today sure to be offset a lot.

2008 intro price was RM80~90K range. So lost local consumer interest LAH. Not to mention small SUV hype have not started in local soil.

Toyota Rush was an extension of Nautica but RWD like Toyota Avanza, and so since Nautica have no local interest Perodua in 2012 manufacture Toyota Avanza locally and UMW Toyota sold with with a good margin.

Now base on the above, you will understand why Daihatsu Xenia / Toyota Rush / Perodua Aruz share the same platform and structure.

IF we go back to 4x4 segment, Perodua had only 2 models which is Kembara and Nautica. Aruz is not 4x4, more like a van or Avanza segment.

So can we rule now that basically Perodua Aruz was basically a jack up Perodua Rusa replacement?

Many people here compare this Aruz with Proton X70... due to close launch dates but both are different segment vehicle.

If to compare, then should be Proton ERTIGA OR Proton EXORA .... LAH!

Aruz is not jack up rusa. Rusa is a Minivan and has flat front unlike Aruz.

I do agree X70 is not par with Aruz as one is C SUV segment and the other is a A/B SUV segment which is identical with Honda B-RV and the likes of Mitsubishi Xpander which sold in Indonesia

Rusa flat front minivan with engine under front driver and passenger ... ok agree to your point.

Nissan Livina will be base on Mitsu Xpander... sure Tan Chong will bring in.

Aikkss Mitsu Xpander rebadge as new livina??
i thought there will be a new livina replacement this year with better safety as mentioned by pauline tan last year


corrected. you are right from here

This post has been edited by leinnz: Feb 12 2019, 02:03 PM

I vividly remember Nautica was rm89,900, before discount which sure had to be given, else can never clear stock.

Rush was the 7-seater version of Nautica. It was CKD too so that's why despite Toyota badge, still cheaper than CBU Nautica. They share same ladder frame platform.

Today still the same scenario, Rush, Aruz and Avanza share same platform (not sure if all-new or same as back then), RWD layout, same engine and gearbox.

Aruz is necessary for P2 cuz they wanna replace Alza, it's been 10 years already. Problem is toyota/daihatsu completely stopped making Passo sette (base for alza), so they gotta turn to Rush as a modern 7-seater offering.

Aruz is just SUV in style, but zero substance. It won't do any off road like most other pussy SUVs, unlike Range Rover, Pajero, Landcruiser etc.

People compare Aruz and X70 cuz mainly they're both SUVs, but Aruz is a budget, no-frill 7-seater family car. X70 is a luxury-killer cruiser, kinda like OnePlus and their 'flagship killer' product. X70 costs way more to buy and run, but it's still a steal for what it's offering vs their rival. True, they both gun different market, and doing well on their own.

J

so put X70 aside, why someone claim nautica hot seller?

Avanza, Xenia, Rush, Terios & Aruz coming from U-IMV platform, running on ladder frame chassis. thats an indication of how bad the driving would be. they can always prop up the accessories and electronics but the fundamentals of the vehicle is already based on 70's Kijang philosophy - low cost and robust

must be x70 driver

Fanboy cannot accept reality, rather live in his own made up lie.

For people on a budget, i won't blame them for buying Aruz, but something really wrong if they buy Rush. Come to think of it, the table has turned this time, now Aruz is rm70+k, while Rush rm90+k. Back in 2008, Rush rm70+k while Nautica rm90k.

Wanna know why Nautica flopped, go wonder why nobody buy Rush today. BLIS and 360° isn't worth topping up rm20+k. If people can install power boot with foot sensor on X70, BLIS and 360° camera also can be done outside, very likely costs waaaay below rm20k.

When people can afford bigger budget, they won't look back at these 3rd world ladder frame cars anymore, looking up, X70 fits the bill, for a steal.

before festive holiday I went to check on Toyota Rush, SA claims final price have not approved by gomen. Current price is estimation only, so no test drive and no display unit.

Probably that explains why UMW wanted media launch earlier before P2 Aruz

Imo hes really mad that tongshan people bring their own people to proton and not listening to the locals/kicking them out. Eventhough they only own 49% but they act like its their own

Look at how many angry feedbacks in this video



This post has been edited by Boy96: Feb 12 2019, 04:10 PM