He super fanboy of that Madani guy of MAI, now MARII. That Madani aa, everytime pauline tan news about, sure make stupid statement ala Maslan.

I notice MAI initiatives kinda pro-P2. MAI actually got design studio, kononnya can be used to train people to then be hired by carmakers, but as i see it, it looks like only P2 on board it, it looks to me more like P2 use govt to save their cost and gain skilled workforce.

Then they got like vendor program, something about bringing vendor standard up to global standards. A notable activity they done before was visit Japan, signed some MoU, but also only P2 vendors and management team seen. This was before Geely bought Proton, so i don't think it was as inclusive as they tried to portray the program to be.

MAI i think was kinda instrumental to formation of MIROS, the body responsible for Asean NCAP. I remember P2 sponsored crash test dummies and other stuffs worth millions, since then P2 crash test result become better, yet in real world crash, u know i know la.

Now Proton under Geely, i suppose they do things their own way now. Even X70 launch event, Pauline Tan not the official livestreamer or event organiser. HS's racist nature become more apparent since. From that post also u can see he got beef about them bringing their people in.

Truth is, Proton become more MNC rather than tongsan. In an interview with Dr Li, he said they got many international key people from Japan, Germany, etc, but HS seems to single out tongsan, and keep attacking them from time to time, claim tongsan hire and pay cybertroopers la, what a jerk.

wow this is new low by him. really got something in him that makes him so mad at P1. Kena sack ke dulu?

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wow this is new low by him. really got something in him that makes him so mad at P1. Kena sack ke dulu?

Eh they forgot ka Geely last time hire Hibi-san ex Toyota top gun to help them? and the head of manufacturing is ex MMC nihon-jin as well. and those ex president Skoda in the board as well in Proton. Good la P1 become MNC, they need volume and need to act like MNC not local vassal of DMC

Hezeri Samsuri, the local motor journalist blame Proton for nautica's flop haha. Can't find the video anymore, but i sempat watch he was driving in aruz, then wanna story about nautica.

Dia claim Proton sakit hati, why national car go fully import from Japan, take shortcut ini P2. P2 kononnya gentleman, so they stopped selling because of it.

Kepala bapak kau. Nautica rm90k, even Rush was cheaper, and Rush had 7 seats while Nautica 5 seater. Nautica only have CBU Japan as its selling point, else Rush cheaper and bigger, who wanna buy P2? Lepas tu buat2 kata kononnya Nautica actually selling well, dalam bandar jualan ada, wanna deny the wiki entry about it sold less than 500 units.

Kononnya all these reasons Nautica failed are fake news spread by keyboard warriors paid by tongsan, while he's telling the truth and not paid at all. Dasar pembohong punya ini HS.

Dengki la tu kat Proton that X70 is selling quite well. Dah la he made defamatory claims against Proton a lot lately. One day i hope Geely may feel it is serious enough to sue his pants off.

nautica is like unicorn now..

rarely seen one on the road..

Just want to point out that 2006~7 Perodua trying to replace ageing face-lift sporty looking Kembara CT Aero.


It was selling at RM50~60K price range back then. Perodua did a trial run for Nautica 4x4 with 200 units locally produce bumpers and fully imported from Japan.

Locally produce bumpers meant local paint supplier also LAH, so body and bumper color if you find one today sure to be offset a lot.

2008 intro price was RM80~90K range. So lost local consumer interest LAH. Not to mention small SUV hype have not started in local soil.

Toyota Rush was an extension of Nautica but RWD like Toyota Avanza, and so since Nautica have no local interest Perodua in 2012 manufacture Toyota Avanza locally and UMW Toyota sold with with a good margin.

Now base on the above, you will understand why Daihatsu Xenia / Toyota Rush / Perodua Aruz share the same platform and structure.

IF we go back to 4x4 segment, Perodua had only 2 models which is Kembara and Nautica. Aruz is not 4x4, more like a van or Avanza segment.

So can we rule now that basically Perodua Aruz was basically a jack up Perodua Rusa replacement?

Many people here compare this Aruz with Proton X70... due to close launch dates but both are different segment vehicle.

If to compare, then should be Proton ERTIGA OR Proton EXORA .... LAH!

Aruz is not jack up rusa. Rusa is a Minivan and has flat front unlike Aruz.

I do agree X70 is not par with Aruz as one is C SUV segment and the other is a A/B SUV segment which is identical with Honda B-RV and the likes of Mitsubishi Xpander which sold in Indonesia

Rusa flat front minivan with engine under front driver and passenger ... ok agree to your point.

Nissan Livina will be base on Mitsu Xpander... sure Tan Chong will bring in.

Just want to point out that 2006~7 Perodua trying to replace ageing face-lift sporty looking Kembara CT Aero.


It was selling at RM50~60K price range back then. Perodua did a trial run for Nautica 4x4 with 200 units locally produce bumpers and fully imported from Japan.

Locally produce bumpers meant local paint supplier also LAH, so body and bumper color if you find one today sure to be offset a lot.

2008 intro price was RM80~90K range. So lost local consumer interest LAH. Not to mention small SUV hype have not started in local soil.

Toyota Rush was an extension of Nautica but RWD like Toyota Avanza, and so since Nautica have no local interest Perodua in 2012 manufacture Toyota Avanza locally and UMW Toyota sold with with a good margin.

Now base on the above, you will understand why Daihatsu Xenia / Toyota Rush / Perodua Aruz share the same platform and structure.

IF we go back to 4x4 segment, Perodua had only 2 models which is Kembara and Nautica. Aruz is not 4x4, more like a van or Avanza segment.

So can we rule now that basically Perodua Aruz was basically a jack up Perodua Rusa replacement?

Many people here compare this Aruz with Proton X70... due to close launch dates but both are different segment vehicle.

If to compare, then should be Proton ERTIGA OR Proton EXORA .... LAH!

I vividly remember Nautica was rm89,900, before discount which sure had to be given, else can never clear stock.

Rush was the 7-seater version of Nautica. It was CKD too so that's why despite Toyota badge, still cheaper than CBU Nautica. They share same ladder frame platform.

Today still the same scenario, Rush, Aruz and Avanza share same platform (not sure if all-new or same as back then), RWD layout, same engine and gearbox.

Aruz is necessary for P2 cuz they wanna replace Alza, it's been 10 years already. Problem is toyota/daihatsu completely stopped making Passo sette (base for alza), so they gotta turn to Rush as a modern 7-seater offering.

Aruz is just SUV in style, but zero substance. It won't do any off road like most other pussy SUVs, unlike Range Rover, Pajero, Landcruiser etc.

People compare Aruz and X70 cuz mainly they're both SUVs, but Aruz is a budget, no-frill 7-seater family car. X70 is a luxury-killer cruiser, kinda like OnePlus and their 'flagship killer' product. X70 costs way more to buy and run, but it's still a steal for what it's offering vs their rival. True, they both gun different market, and doing well on their own.

so put X70 aside, why someone claim nautica hot seller?

Avanza, Xenia, Rush, Terios & Aruz coming from U-IMV platform, running on ladder frame chassis. thats an indication of how bad the driving would be. they can always prop up the accessories and electronics but the fundamentals of the vehicle is already based on 70's Kijang philosophy - low cost and robust

Fanboy cannot accept reality, rather live in his own made up lie.

For people on a budget, i won't blame them for buying Aruz, but something really wrong if they buy Rush. Come to think of it, the table has turned this time, now Aruz is rm70+k, while Rush rm90+k. Back in 2008, Rush rm70+k while Nautica rm90k.

Wanna know why Nautica flopped, go wonder why nobody buy Rush today. BLIS and 360° isn't worth topping up rm20+k. If people can install power boot with foot sensor on X70, BLIS and 360° camera also can be done outside, very likely costs waaaay below rm20k.

When people can afford bigger budget, they won't look back at these 3rd world ladder frame cars anymore, looking up, X70 fits the bill, for a steal.

wow this is new low by him. really got something in him that makes him so mad at P1. Kena sack ke dulu?