can you or sumbody mind to give more details bout the free classes.

im interested to know more , thx

~Alpha user soon

check this link
http://www.sony.com.my/workshop/home.asp

official workshops etc are posted there


here's the club alpha link
http://www.clubalpha.net/index.asp

This post has been edited by kitman: Jul 2 2007, 06:40 PM

I wouldnt really suggest that... in my opinion, changing lens is a must... otherwise, y u want to buy other lenses when u arent going to use them? Might as well not buy them at the 1st place, rite?

And changing lens is a skill too... 'pro' can swap their lens on the spot in minutes..

Also, u can consider using a good lens E.g. the 80-200mm F2.8, but just stand alil further from ur object and shoot... or stand on higher ground to avoid other 'photographers' that might be shooting at the same object.. by doing so, u can create a different angle as well... a sort of win-win situation..

but you do have a point... so it's all down to the photographers 'desired'.. quality vs. convenience..

just my 2 cent

This post has been edited by vX-2: Jul 2 2007, 08:52 PM

I think all of this is depend on how thick is our wallet....in foreign country it is common that a photographer owned whole bunch of lenses, when they go shooting, they will choose the correct lens to suit his/her theme. Imagine how grant will be if I can be like that....

For poor guy like me, I am not afford to buy so many lens, so I will take:

standard zoom: 18-70 (for general usage)
tele : 70-210 ( for special event and portrait)
wide angle prime (for street photo and portrait)
Macro( or cheap solution extension tube or close up filter)
External Flash

If you have more $$ power, you have even more variety of choices for you, like you can buy a 18-250 only to serve you when travelling.

As for me, this all round lens 18-250 is good for travel, but if you are not always travel, end up the lens will only sit in the dry box as you will not choose to bring it out for shooting when you have other better lens.

But if you have extra money to buy it, then why not?

haiyo ......i know someone surely will say buy dslr for flexibility to change lens but what i'm saying is there are some situation when you cannot do it as much as you like. i know pro can change lens in a flash .....but i'm not a pro

oh and sometimes you cannot stand further back..... try that on the steep angkor stairs, or when you do street shooting things happen impromptu so you may not have the opt to swap lens

......and these high zoom range lenses are not total write off in quality dept. they might not match your zeiss and g-lenses but they do have a place in the market or else they will not be one of the more popular lenses in the market. they do make a very good kit lens to start you off, when budget permit you can move on to prime, macros, g's, cz lenses - then you can opt to keep or sell lo

edit - agree with cityfish - it depends on individual needs. normally if i know i take certain pix i will bring lenses i need but if it's something unplanned or going for trips my 18-200 will be in the bag or cam. i'm not against changing lenses etc but i'm just giving my view on how useful a wide-tele lens can be when you go travelling

This post has been edited by kitman: Jul 2 2007, 09:59 PM

i went on the 30th June for their class：） and i can say the speaker is a pretty nice fella, i learned alot from the session. but now i m seriously in dilemma, canon 400d vs sony a100

This post has been edited by zeroexz: Jul 3 2007, 07:09 PM

get touch and play with both before you make a decision.

played with my friend's new 400D last weekend, and I am still happy with my choice, and my friend likes my A100

No need think liao... Just get Sony... Ever since i make up my mind... i feel so relax... now i only think where to get it cheaper rather than compare which brand to get...

i hvnt hv my hand on a 400d yet, i oni tried out the 350d, which the grip is really really small to me but its fine with the extra grip

i also tried the a100 during the alpha session, overall the cam is ok, jz the iso noise is abit high and also sony hv less 2nd hd accessories while new 1 are expensive.

overall i like the colour processor, kevin meter, anti shake of alpha over canon, but then canon offer cheaper and more lenses, accesories...especially 50mm f1.8 @rm290

btw, any comment u can give since u hv compared both cams?

tats the thing with me, couldnt made up my mind.at 1st i decided to canon, but then after the alpha session, i start doubting. may b i shud save abit more and go for d80 instead ( but its impossible)

This post has been edited by zeroexz: Jul 4 2007, 10:15 AM

The 350D has a horribly small grip, which I never realized until I tried a Canon 70-200mm F4L IS on it. My friend needed to get the battery grip to quickly flip to portrait orientation.

The A100, however, has no problem with the Minolta 70-210mm F4 beercan. Same weight also! I can quickly tilt it left OR right (which the battery grip won't let you do) with no strain. Frankly, you don't need a vertical grip unless you intend to put a 70-200mm F2.8 on it.

Don't know about you guys, but I think the Sony has the best AF point layout, with diagonal sensors on the rule-of-thirds.

Shooting along the rule-of-thirds also helps a lot with hyperfocal focusing, but that's quite hard to understand unless you shot landscapes with manual focus cameras.

Don't forget that the Sony 50mm F1.4 at RM1300 or less is helped by SuperSteadyShot. The combination of bright lens, high ISO and SSS lets you shoot in darker places. Roadside mamaks. Theater performances. Gigs. Dinners (without flash!) Slow shutter night scenes with flash (with less motion blur in the background).

The people who say you don't need image stabilization are the same people who say "let's go to the zoo, so we can bring out our cameras!" and then keep them away in the evening because it's too dark for them to shoot anything.

I bring my camera everywhere. SSS helps me out a lot. Pop the kit lens on and shoot a evening scene without a tripod at 1/4s. No problem! Crispy details ensured.

How about room lighting? For those with a point-and-shoot with manual control, or a dSLR, try to shoot a newspaper at full wide, F3.5 ISO400 without flash. You might find you get a shutter speed of 1/4s. Without stabilization you'd get smudged text. The immediate "I can pick up my camera and shoot this!" feeling of having stabilization is great!

all focused in the middle

Any recommended shop that i can get a KM 50mm 1.7?
Please advise. or any1 here wanna sell?

Can't agree more than that, I didn't realise how useful was the SSS until I tried the 400D & D40. I have a pair of steady hands and am manage to take a decent shot with my A100 as slow as 1/3 to 1/5s. That were not the case for the other 2.

It'll be unfair if I say 400D is a bit un-user friendly to me, I used to own a EOS 50 but I am impressed by Sony's user interface, especially the function dial on the top left.

On lens choice, I think the existing 3rd party and Minolta lenses in the market are sufficient for most users need. Btw, how often people here (others than pro or those who shoot for their living) get a lens 2-3 times of their monthly income?

nairud: All focused in the middle? I don't get what you mean. Note that the AF points look different; the center square is a cross-type sensor, while the four arranged in a cross-shape are horizontal line-type sensors. The diagonal ones, on the intersection of rule-of-thirds, also indicate how the line-type sensors are oriented.

The big rectangle emcompassing everything shows where wide AF would focus on. The small circle shows where the spot meter is.

The diagonal sensors are placed in the same position as the 400D's rectangle of AF points. That's a major improvement over the 350D. I've never needed to AF on something in the frame in the outer 4 sensors of the 400D. A bit too far out.

...of course, even a D200 user craves the Pentax K10D's many cross-type sensors.

This post has been edited by albnok: Jul 5 2007, 12:57 PM

Have you all seen this?

Advanced Amateur Model





Flagship Model




http://news.sel.sony.com/en/image_library/...al_cameras/dslr

Can i join the class aswell while i using nikon ?

i think the class is only open to sony a100 users only

U may tell u are going to buy the Alpha soon, and u would like to attend the class first, sometimes they will loan you one Alpha as well. And hope you will not get poisoned after the course.

I had join the extremly dark side of Nikon , so is that okay if i bring along the dark equipment ?
I had personally use Alpha before and it's superb i must say.