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**SONY ALPHA (α)**®, Like no others.
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Gadget_Freak
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Jun 24 2007, 02:17 AM
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QUOTE(vX-2 @ Jun 24 2007, 01:13 AM) Cheh... i said no offence edi wud...  lebihnya... Added on June 24, 2007, 1:15 amerm... depends on the condition of the lens o.... like new? maybe RM 750... excellent condition RM650... ok, so that's the average price.. i'll notice u if i get the lens
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williamngwl
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Jun 24 2007, 04:38 AM
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QUOTE(cityfish @ Jun 23 2007, 01:23 AM) You can get the body at around RM2250 + about RM200 used kit lens(18-70).... some camera shops offer RM2799 for the package of 18-70 kit lens + GPS-CS1 and 4GB CF.... quite worth. hi,where u saw this price?btw this price seems like impossible mah....rm2700 with a100 + SAL 1870 + case + Kingston CF Elite Pro(50X).wah...the GPS-CS1(selling rm499) only rm100? This post has been edited by williamngwl: Jun 24 2007, 08:03 PM
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cityfish
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Jun 24 2007, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(williamngwl @ Jun 24 2007, 04:38 AM) hi,where u saw this price?btw this price seems like impossible mah....rm2700 with a100 + SAL 1870 + case + Kingston CF Elite Pro(50X).wah...the GPS-CS1(selling rm499) only rm100? I saw the ad at Foto President at Penang QBM, never asked. For those who really interested let me know, i can help to ask for details. For the CF I am not sure which brand and model.
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cityfish
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Jun 24 2007, 09:33 PM
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Hello fella Alpha owners, I got 2 lens + 1 filter for sales, please visit at below: (1) Cosina 28-105 F2.8-3.8(2) Tamron 70-300 F4-5.6(3) Hoya Close Up +4 (55mm)For those who want cheap solution on Macro, this is the filter that matched to the 18-70 kit lens, I only used once at Butterfly Farm, you may search my gallery to look at the image quality. This post has been edited by cityfish: Jun 24 2007, 09:48 PM
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williamngwl
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Jun 25 2007, 12:59 AM
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QUOTE(cityfish @ Jun 24 2007, 09:30 PM) I saw the ad at Foto President at Penang QBM, never asked. For those who really interested let me know, i can help to ask for details. For the CF I am not sure which brand and model. i wish to know more,if in this case,i also wish to get from him lo...wonder how that shop manage to sell in this price?
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TStom_k3nt
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Jun 25 2007, 10:59 AM
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cityfish
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Jun 25 2007, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(tom_k3nt @ Jun 25 2007, 10:59 AM) Hi all Sifu, pls advise should i get the Kit lens when buying the Alpha? My main purpose will be use for travelling and normal photo shooting.. Not into Macro shots... SHould i just get the body and get 3rd party lens? What lens? How much(New and 2nd hand)? 18-70 is a cheap lens with decent image quality, compare to other 18-55 kit lens, it performs better and it is vignetting free and also no visible purple fringing. Unless you have more money to get the Tamron 17-50 F2.8, if not 18-70 will serve you for general purpose. You have an option to get 18-200, all round lens that good for travel, but the image quality not that good and a bit slow. Second option is to get the 18-70 and a tele like 70-300(which I am letting it go) so to cover the whole range from 18-300. Until the day you require more from your camera or until the day you know which area you want to upgrade then you may choose other lens to replace.
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porkchop
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Jun 25 2007, 12:34 PM
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go for the kit lens, its useful for travelling........then on top of it get the extras when u have the money..
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cityfish
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Jun 25 2007, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE(porkchop @ Jun 25 2007, 12:34 PM) go for the kit lens, its useful for travelling........then on top of it get the extras when u have the money.. Agree... did you sell your 18-70 anyway?
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kitman
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Jun 25 2007, 04:10 PM
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actually for good walk around lens the 18-200 is better choice, the pix quality is pretty decent, it's rather compact without the hood, a tad heavier but miles more flexible. if budget is a constrain the kit 18-70 is a good choice as it's one of the better ones compared to other brand
if $ is no problem - pack the body with the carl zeiss 16-80 - this lens is pretty much the darling of lenses for alpha now.
edit - if you dun mind 3rd party lens can check out the just launched 18-250 tamron - it's getting great review and i start seeing it on sale in malaysia lately
This post has been edited by kitman: Jun 25 2007, 04:11 PM
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vX-2
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Jun 25 2007, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(Gadget_Freak @ Jun 24 2007, 02:17 AM) ok, so that's the average price.. i'll notice u if i get the lens Thanks  Please do msg me... QUOTE(kitman @ Jun 25 2007, 04:10 PM) actually for good walk around lens the 18-200 is better choice, the pix quality is pretty decent, it's rather compact without the hood, a tad heavier but miles more flexible. if budget is a constrain the kit 18-70 is a good choice as it's one of the better ones compared to other brand if $ is no problem - pack the body with the carl zeiss 16-80 - this lens is pretty much the darling of lenses for alpha now. edit - if you dun mind 3rd party lens can check out the just launched 18-250 tamron - it's getting great review and i start seeing it on sale in malaysia lately Errr.... i wouldnt opt for Range... I would advice to always go for constant aperture instead of Range... the difference is just spectacular...
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cityfish
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Jun 26 2007, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE(williamngwl @ Jun 25 2007, 12:59 AM) i wish to know more,if in this case,i also wish to get from him lo...wonder how that shop manage to sell in this price? I can get the A100 + 18-70 kit lens + GPS-CS1 for RM2700. Interested? PM me.
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chongming76
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Jun 27 2007, 04:08 AM
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agreed with vX-2, one lens is never enough (referring to 18-200 suggested by hitman).
if have enough budget, don't buy the kit lens, start with either Tamron 17-50/2.8 or CZ 16-80, i prefer Tamron for the constant aperture.
get a prime lens (Sony 50/1.4 or KM 50/1.7 or even Tamron 90/2.8SP macro) or a mid range tele (KM 70-210/4 highly recommended) later.
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albnok
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Jun 27 2007, 11:43 AM
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Alpha Male
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Actually, if you look at a F3.5-4.5 lens it can be read as averaging F4 aperture. That makes the 24-105mm F3.5-4.5 very versatile, and I often feel that 105mm is good enough on a walkaround.
The CZ 16-80mm has its merits for being very sharp wide open. If you want to shoot in low light, the 17-50mm F2.8 might not be bright enough, which is where a Sony 50mm F1.4, Sony 35mm F1.4G, Sigma 30mm F1.4 or Sigma 20mm F1.8 comes in.
However, given a choice between the 18-200mm and 18-250mm I'd choose the 18-250mm. Both are quite slow to focus and have darker apertures.
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TStom_k3nt
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Jun 27 2007, 12:12 PM
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Hey Albert, I think i saw u at Cineleisure last weekend. U are taking pic at the ground floor right? Btw, how many cam u have, so many bag u were using. QUOTE(albnok @ Jun 27 2007, 11:43 AM) Actually, if you look at a F3.5-4.5 lens it can be read as averaging F4 aperture. That makes the 24-105mm F3.5-4.5 very versatile, and I often feel that 105mm is good enough on a walkaround. The CZ 16-80mm has its merits for being very sharp wide open. If you want to shoot in low light, the 17-50mm F2.8 might not be bright enough, which is where a Sony 50mm F1.4, Sony 35mm F1.4G, Sigma 30mm F1.4 or Sigma 20mm F1.8 comes in. However, given a choice between the 18-200mm and 18-250mm I'd choose the 18-250mm. Both are quite slow to focus and have darker apertures.
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albnok
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Jun 29 2007, 11:04 AM
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Alpha Male
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tom_k3nt: Next time say hi! (Though I wonder how you recognized me.)
I had two small bags la. The Lowepro Mini is one of the smallest camera bags for SLRs I see around. I like to split the load between two bags instead of one big bag.
Yeah I was using the wireless flash on top of the Transformer exhibits at Robotcon 2007 on the lower ground floor.
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TStom_k3nt
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Jun 29 2007, 02:06 PM
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QUOTE(albnok @ Jun 29 2007, 11:04 AM) tom_k3nt: Next time say hi! (Though I wonder how you recognized me.) I had two small bags la. The Lowepro Mini is one of the smallest camera bags for SLRs I see around. I like to split the load between two bags instead of one big bag. Yeah I was using the wireless flash on top of the Transformer exhibits at Robotcon 2007 on the lower ground floor. i am a blog reader... see ur pic on SmashPop blog before... lol... summore he also using Alpha... so... i guess is u kua... hahahaha... next time will say Hi...
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lanusb
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Jun 29 2007, 03:40 PM
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ya i think they are frens
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cityfish
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Jul 2 2007, 12:16 AM
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Alpha member, I got another good lens to sell, it is brand new. Cosina 70-210 F2.8-4Click the link above. This post has been edited by cityfish: Jul 2 2007, 12:18 AM
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kitman
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Jul 2 2007, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(chongming76 @ Jun 27 2007, 04:08 AM) agreed with vX-2, one lens is never enough (referring to 18-200 suggested by kitman). if have enough budget, don't buy the kit lens, start with either Tamron 17-50/2.8 or CZ 16-80, i prefer Tamron for the constant aperture. get a prime lens (Sony 50/1.4 or KM 50/1.7 or even Tamron 90/2.8SP macro) or a mid range tele (KM 70-210/4 highly recommended) later. of cos the lenses you quoted above will perform better than the 18-200/18-250 but you got to consider you're going traveling and at times you want to travel light, dust on the sensor or simply in situation where you dun get to swap lens whenever you need more zooming power. but if you ask me what will i get if i'm getting my camera now...... i will consider heavily the alpha + 16-80CZ but the 18-200/18-250 will come along soon haha. i know how i suffered when i went from my ultra zoom to my km5D + 18-70kit.
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