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 **SONY ALPHA (α)**®, Like no others.

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post Feb 14 2008, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(eagle.ng @ Feb 14 2008, 10:49 AM)
Sony 50mm f1.4 locally. MSRP is RM1650/RM14xx!!!?? wat??? cry.gif (fall down on the floor...)
not my affortable...    sad.gif
need to keep money for flash!!!
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its almost same price as Canon. if buy f1.8, better dun buy lor.

and if u want cheap, get pentax. 50mm f1.4 is just rm600.
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post Feb 14 2008, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 14 2008, 10:56 AM)
Wah. If you think RM1300 for a F1.4 is not affordable... I don't think you'll be buying any "better" lenses. A Tamron 17-50mm F2.8 is around RM1400. A Tamron 90mm F2.8 Macro also around the same price. Those are very cheap already for what they can do.

If a Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 is RM3600, it sounds expensive, right? No, it's the cheapest of all F2.8 tele zooms currently!
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So means eagle.ng is not really a upgrader. So need to think so much on upgrade. Just buy the best
camera with most feature at low price. And that's only A200 can you give.... laugh.gif

I think Sony should pay us.
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post Feb 14 2008, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(eagle.ng @ Feb 14 2008, 11:00 AM)
yup, i agree for that...but I'm just compare between canon 50mm f1.8 with sony...since a lot cheaper...although i'm know that not fair to compare.
mayb not for now to purchase, hope can get it for future.    hmm.gif


Added on February 14, 2008, 11:01 am
yup. I agreed.. biggrin.gif
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I don't remember they said Sony got 50mm F1.8. It just not make sense to buy. I guess Sony marketing did his study and realise
upgrader don't buy 50mm F1.8. Its just not making sense tongue.gif
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post Feb 14 2008, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(eagle.ng @ Feb 14 2008, 11:06 AM)
what is your recommended?    laugh.gif
potrait lens 50mm F1.X take very good picture!!!    drool.gif
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50mm F1.4 ftw. My top priority lens for any brand I will buy.
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post Feb 14 2008, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(eagle.ng @ Feb 14 2008, 11:09 AM)
mean that you still doing survey?
you mean it is more important than flash?  hmm.gif
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I don't do survey. I'm just waiting for perfect dSLR... LOL

nope. I mean, flash is very important. But for lens, F1.4 is my top priority.
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post Feb 14 2008, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(eagle.ng @ Feb 14 2008, 11:38 AM)
do you thinksshould i get single kit lens 18-70mm or twin kit lens?
save money to get flash?  hmm.gif
ha....asked people pula!!!  smile.gif
hope you don't mind... just thinking is happen in you!!!  tongue.gif
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depend on ur budget lor. but for me, for a complete set of
photography equipment, you need this:

a)body
b)lens covering from 18mm to 300mm (eq to 28mm to 450mm)
c)low light prime lens 50mm F1.4
d)flash + diffuser

All a to d must have for dSLR. If don't have, then I don't
consider your photography equipment is complete. smile.gif
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post Feb 14 2008, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(TheVoIP @ Feb 14 2008, 12:20 PM)
You mean if only one body one lense not complete ar?

5D + EF28-300 IS L?  brows.gif

How about 1Ds mark IV + EF1200 f2.8 USM IS L?  thumbup.gif
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Statement below is for sake for talking, no experiment done what soever:
of course don't compare with high end dSLR. 5D with 300mm is not reachable to 450mm. But of course can crop.
f2.8 not fast enough, but of course maybe 1D does not need that fast. And not that bokeh oso... tongue.gif

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When u sell me your 30D for RM2k?
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post Feb 14 2008, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(TheVoIP @ Feb 14 2008, 12:29 PM)
Bokeh not enought? Siao....

Even my 70-200 f2.8 at 200mm also very background blur liao... And you say 1200mm not enought ar...  shakehead.gif

My Alien friends told me the bokeh of the EF1200 f2.8 USM IS L is fantastic!  notworthy.gif
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Told you I didn't do any experiment on it. So don't shoot me lar... sad.gif
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post Feb 14 2008, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(ewin @ Feb 14 2008, 12:31 PM)
Wah, after following this thread for quite some time.

I think I'm also poisoned with Alpha 200.
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Everyone also got poisoned lor. I mean, its all rounded dSLR. Where to find
wor.
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post Feb 14 2008, 01:01 PM

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I wonder you all have any preference for CF card.

I personally like high performance one like:
Brand New~ Kingston 4GB ULTIMATE Pro Compact Flash Card ~ 266X
Its RM258.
http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2008-02D...h_Card_266X.htm

Any place to get good deal?
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post Feb 14 2008, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(eagle.ng @ Feb 14 2008, 02:21 PM)
you mean poisoning by other people?
I think without add any extra lens or flash, the DSLR camera should be always done a good jobs if compare with non-DSLR camera, right?    hmm.gif
ha......I just like take photo with more feature camera! very easy get boring when i purchase non-dslr camera setting although very good convenience.
who don't want to buy good lens kits if they affortable?
just no extra money to purchase more lens for now.  blush.gif  sweat.gif 
mayb can purchase it without any upgrade...what do you think....?? brows.gif
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from your post, it seems like you really need A200 with twin lens. I'm sure without flash/fast lens, it still do better job than PnS. smile.gif
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post Feb 14 2008, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(dx_myrddraal @ Feb 14 2008, 02:41 PM)
gogo2 was replying to someone else. Here's my take: you should not be asking others what gear to buy: wide, tele, portrait or flash - it's all up to you! Nobody knows what photography you enjoy more than you yourself! If you travel a lot, wide angles will be most useful, followed by a tele lens (I think). If you like shooting indoors (perhaps you party all the time), then the kit 75-300 is pretty much useless - a 50mm f1.7 will definitely be useful. Flash? If you do landscapes, it'll be pretty useless. So ask yourself what kinda photos you wanna take more often.
That's b***s***!! Everyone has the right to enjoy photoraphy, regardless of their budgets!! Why else are there 400D, D40 and A200s on the market?! Canon is a firm believer in that - provding a wide variety of lenses for people with different budgets. Eg: Canon's 50mm primes come in f1.8, f1.4 USM and f1.2 USM L versions, depending how deep your pocket is. I'm sorry if your interest is solely in wildlife and sports photography - can't help you with that.

Not everyone will be willing to fork out RM1k for the Sony 50mm f1.4 over the Minolta f1.7. It's just a blardy 0.3 - that alone is not gonna make your pictures pop. Do a search on Flickr and you can see plenty of impressive pictures taken with a RM 250-350 piece of plastic toy, otherwise known as the Canon 50mm f1.8. But of course, if you shoot a lot of portraits and if you can afford it, why not?
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That's true. Only the buyer can determine what they want smile.gif. But sometimes, buyers do not know what they want
until they try to shoot the bird or monkey up the tree. Then only they realise, OMG, I forgot to buy 75-300... tongue.gif

Yes, picture from 1.8 to 1.4 will not pop. But I think in indoor, you might appreciate a little bit more. smile.gif
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post Feb 14 2008, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(gmail @ Feb 14 2008, 04:10 PM)
damn, i also kena poison kao kao when i first touched the A200 in MV roadshow last month  drool.gif

i will get the twin lens kit next month, currently still saving $$ for it!
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I see your signature still written D40x... laugh.gif
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post Feb 14 2008, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(Bahlol @ Feb 14 2008, 04:28 PM)
gila.. A200 really accelerating this topic. i learn and see a lot from Canon units but A200 does amazed me a lot. got my unit yesterday and im very impressed with the image quality. personally, i do feel A200 produce better image compared to any other standard kit at this level. image produced using higher ISO (1600/3200) also not disappointing. will asked my fren from Kilang Sony Sunway to lend me some lenses and see how much A200 could stretched.  starting to love sony, sony give us too much for the price it asked for.
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wow, you mean, you're new user to A200? That's great. More and more coming to orange camp.
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post Feb 14 2008, 05:10 PM

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albnok, have you touch K100D super with kit lens and 50mm F1.4 prime? Can tell me what u think compare to A200?
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post Feb 15 2008, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(Aileron @ Feb 15 2008, 12:45 AM)
guys, got any noticeable difference use normal CF card compared to the CF 3 or ultra?

Aiyo..why CF card prices so expensive?
can i use the normal speed ones to save money?

because i use normal sd card for my D40 it is good enough for me,
now i'm wondering about the CF card for A200 because going to get one soon
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If you use normal SD card for your D40, means you can use normal CF card also.

Actually CF3 or Ultra is for people who want to shoot 3 frame per second or higher.

I assume you're just using single shot. So normal cheapo CF card will be ok smile.gif

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post Feb 15 2008, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(TheVoIP @ Feb 15 2008, 10:37 AM)
She make hell lots of money from photography. At least one of the best paid and most money making photographer in town... I believe any event shooting (within a day) mean can get a L lense liao... because she always get her job done (not as easy as you think).
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I forgot wat u do. So your company actually Kit Chan company? Or are you Kit Chan?? laugh.gif
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post Feb 15 2008, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(TheVoIP @ Feb 15 2008, 10:45 AM)
I am not her. I am a guy with a dxxk. So surely not her... And I cannot afford 1D series camera as well. Beside I take good care of my gears.

I forgot her name laio as I have bad memory... especially for auntie or non-pretty gals in general...  laugh.gif

Just kidding on that.  biggrin.gif
I think most guys cannot do her job.... I am impressed to see how she actually shoot when I was shooting beside her. Siao... but get things done!  notworthy.gif
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Sorry. I was supposed to mean Kid Chan.... Lol... so wat u do in ur company?
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post Feb 15 2008, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(eagle.ng @ Feb 15 2008, 01:49 PM)
thx...but not for now yet cause still searching and survey the DSLR camera.    drool.gif
still not finalize yet.  tongue.gif
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Actually for beginner dSLR, you really have no choise. Unless you plan to get prosumer dSLR like me.
I'm aiming for Canon 40D...and I saw someone selling 400D after 6 months in Garage Sale. Why? Because
400D just does not have enough feature. So its either Sony A200, Canon 40D or Nikon D300 for you
to choose. LOL...
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post Feb 15 2008, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(eagle.ng @ Feb 15 2008, 02:14 PM)
Yup, I know that...but Penang price still remain RM1999 with standard kit(single kit len). twin kit lens very difficuilt to find...  flex.gif
Mayb next month will drop somemore cause I heard A300 and 450D will launch next month(the shop seller told me)...how true is it, not sure    hmm.gif
hope I can wait....still not let the DEVIL poison so much!!!    tongue.gif
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I tot vladimir is selling RM2300 for twin lens? It is at Komtar there.

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