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 **SONY ALPHA (α)**®, Like no others.

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post Feb 15 2008, 04:14 PM

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Someone wrote a detailed review on A200.
http://photoclubalpha.com/2008/02/14/sony-alpha-200-review/


Added on February 15, 2008, 4:16 pmIn the meantime, we have no hesitation in switching from A100 to A200. Image quality is everything; it's like moving from old High Speed Ektachrome 160 E4 to the later Ektachrome 400 E6 in one step. Your DSLR is really like your film, not like your cameras of the past. Once you could upgrade your quality when Fuji introduced Velvia, or Kodak invented T-grain; same camera, new film, better images. Now you change the DSLR body instead and you never think about what those thousands of exposures would once have cost you in film. The Alpha 200 is in practice a big improvement over the Alpha 100 and nearly a match for the Alpha 700 at ISO speeds 400-1600, without any visible issues like 'watercolour' noise-reduction processing effects.

I will deal with photo samples from the Alpha 200 later. We have only had the camera for a week, and a working week mainly spent indoors despite the sunshine; even sunny days don't mean that much when the landscape is still midwinter and the most scenic winter areas are four hours' drive away, with all of Scotland's usual guarantee of near-darkness and belting rain when you finally get there! It may take a month or so to get a feel for what the camera does best. In the meantime, it does 3200 ISO at night pretty effectively:
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That's a 3200 ISO in-camera JPEG with NR turned on and the inset is a 100 per cent view, no post-processing used. Alpha 100 owners will be fully aware why the 200 is better on seeing this.

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post Feb 19 2008, 05:14 PM

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The reason so many people buy A200 is because of the price. Without price advantage, I don't see anyone will buy Sony tongue.gif


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post Feb 19 2008, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(bysquashy @ Feb 19 2008, 05:17 PM)
For me its price+tech. No one would buy cheap rubbish right?

What attracted me is the IS because I hate it when I take blurry photos.
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Yup. Its the best price per feature currently. Weirdly, the price is very low only in Malaysia.
I heard other country still quite expensive.
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post Feb 20 2008, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Feb 20 2008, 12:06 PM)
Hello there people... Seriously thinking of joining the Orange Legion here, as I've just got my - limited - government financial assistance... It being limited, gone are my hopes of getting a second hand D80, 30D or anything else from that league (only if DSLRS can take pictures with no lenses, which isn't the case here now is it?)... sweat.gif

Only hope left is getting the A200, and saving my ass of for a few years to afford the A700 or whatever equivalent that will exist when my money is all ready later (if I'm not already bankrupt due to accessories and glass by then)... icon_rolleyes.gif

So guys, any pointers where to get good prices for a A200 kit + whatever bundle they're willing to give me (at least a bag would be nice) + CF card of some sort + HVL-F36?

And where can you get the RM1300+- worth of vouchers with an A200 purchase? The total price of my budgeted kit + HVL-F36 will go over-limit without the flash voucher, that's for sure... sweat.gif
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yeap, go to Sg Wang and search around. I heard something like Boeing and Tarita. Do refer back a few pages earlier on this. smile.gif
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post Feb 20 2008, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Feb 20 2008, 01:05 PM)
Hmm, for the extra (deleted in A200) features (MLU, DMF, DOF Preview), do you guys think getting an A100 is still worth it?

I know the A200 autofocuses faster and has better dynamic range... Do you guys think that MLU, DMF and DOFP are features worth trading more vivid pics for?
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No way I will trade low noise with other feature. The reason we get dSLR is because of low noise.

A100 is a big no no.
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post Feb 20 2008, 02:23 PM

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QUOTE(eagle.ng @ Feb 20 2008, 02:02 PM)
Wow...good info...I had done a samething from my non-dslr camera!!!  smile.gif
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but this might mean over research. in the end, u keep on researching for the perfect camera
instead of taking good photo... LOL
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post Feb 20 2008, 02:32 PM

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QUOTE(TheVoIP @ Feb 20 2008, 02:29 PM)
Ya la... I seen lots of people doing too much research on perfection...

I would say if you want basic high image quality, just buy a EOS 5D with 2 lenses enought liao... EF24-105 f4 and EF135 f2 L for potrait.  thumbup.gif
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thumbup.gif thumbup.gif FF is always on my mind...
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post Feb 20 2008, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(ganz @ Feb 20 2008, 02:36 PM)
now... this thread already reach 99 pages..

n a still not buying my alpha yet.. =))
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QUOTE(TheVoIP @ Feb 20 2008, 02:38 PM)
Ya... Me too yet to get my alpha... I talk only...  whistling.gif
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Actually the biggest talker is me. Don't grab my place.. laugh.gif
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post Feb 20 2008, 03:21 PM

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albnok, will u come to teach us all orange camp newbie how to better utilize Alpha camera during TT?
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post Feb 20 2008, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(Eiraku @ Feb 20 2008, 03:48 PM)
Blu-ray (now that HD-DVD is officially dead), The Alphas, VAIOs (no matter how crappy some of 'em are), SE phones, the PS3... Is it just me or is Sony hell bent on taking over the world?
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Not only you. I also realise that Sony is winning everything.....if you got trading account in US, buy a lot of Sony share. laugh.gif
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post Feb 20 2008, 05:07 PM

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QUOTE(harrychoo @ Feb 20 2008, 04:03 PM)
we have a mini photographer gathering this friday night at egate starbuck with some of the photographers, if u interested u can join, i can guide u on some of the technical things  laugh.gif
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can I know if this is only for Minolta/Sony user? are u guys professional photographer or just hobbyist? smile.gif
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post Feb 20 2008, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(harrychoo @ Feb 20 2008, 05:14 PM)
no, apply to all camera..we dun discriminate any brand or any type of camera  laugh.gif

got N, C, S, P or O or any types of cameras, but penang mostly is N la..

we are just hobbyist.
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Yeah a lot of Nikon supporter here. My boss also got D300. tongue.gif
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post Feb 21 2008, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(TheVoIP @ Feb 21 2008, 09:38 AM)
As far as I know, all media in Malaysia & Singapore are using solely Canon... unless those part time or freelance one la.

So as long as you do not use Canon, they know you are not media...  cool2.gif
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wat model they use? all 1dmk3 ar?
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post Feb 21 2008, 10:31 AM

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Like that ar. Then I better buy Canon 40D so that I can go in and pretend as Media.... laugh.gif
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post Feb 21 2008, 04:49 PM

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50mm F1.4 if you take portrait especially indoor. If not, then no need to buy. I don't find any use at all tongue.gif

And I see u like sports. I believe certain sports need tele. So 70-300 APO is necessary.

I dunno why 16-105 mm lens or the Sony 18-250 mm can poison you. tongue.gif
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post Feb 21 2008, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Feb 21 2008, 05:03 PM)
Wah the way you say it, your budget is big. biggrin.gif

You can get the A200 + kit lens + flash + Sigma 70-300mm, and then get a 50mm F1.4. As long as you have the flash, the autoshow/landscape/wedding part is settled.

If you want to shoot architecture as well, the Sony 11-18mm is good; it doesn't have much distortion.

I do not know how well the Sigma 70-300mm is with tracking, which is important when shooting sports.

Tracking = following a subject and shooting continuously while the camera keeps focusing on the subject.

For sports ah... you'll want a Sony Carl Zeiss 135mm F1.8. It's a good length for sports and works well with teleconverters. Of course there's a Sony 70-200mm F2.8 and 300mm F2.8 but it is rumored to have another price revision soon.

I tried tracking with the 18-250mm, a bit hard to track at the 250mm end.

There's a much cheaper Tamron 90mm F2.8 Macro or Sigma 180mm F3.5 Macro. Although they are macro lenses, they are quite bright and long, and can do sports on a budget on the A200. If you can wait, the Tamron 70-200mm F2.8 Macro will be coming out soon in Sony mount, that will be very cheap compared to anything else.

Then, there's the second-hand Minolta 70-210mm F4 "beercan". It can track horses well, I have one. Sharp, and very good bokeh (background blur is very smooth).
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Wow, great information. Yeah, wedding needs 50mm F1.4. I forgot wedding is indoor with low light... tongue.gif


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post Feb 21 2008, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Feb 21 2008, 05:11 PM)
Because it gives 2mm wider angle compare to the kit lens.
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is 2mm really that big different? can insert how many people more? tongue.gif
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post Feb 22 2008, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(eagle.ng @ Feb 22 2008, 09:53 AM)
I'm interest your price which is you mentioned for the flash.
Is it without using cash voucher?
where can I get this offer?    hmm.gif
because I saw here...F36AM=RM11XX, F56AM=RM13XX in penang.
so expensive in Penang....walau-ehh~~~  doh.gif
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Have you tried Komtar? vladimir should give a better price since he know about KL price. Also, in his thread, he claim he sell so much cheaper than other seller smile.gif
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post Feb 22 2008, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(eagle.ng @ Feb 22 2008, 10:10 AM)
thanks.
how about KL? Sungai Wang or Lowyat?
I will go to KL on March-14 to March-15...that might be one of my opportunity to buy my 1st DSLR camera...
included the flash!!!  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Tarita or Boeing in Sg Wang?

QUOTE(ellist @ Feb 22 2008, 10:24 AM)
hi all bro out there...i hav something to ask...can i know wat is viewfinder magnification means and is it an essential criteria when choosing a dslr?thx!!
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Its important. It is how big the viewfinder and is it can see everything. If you can't see properly and see everything, its harder to take photo.
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post Feb 22 2008, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(TheVoIP @ Feb 22 2008, 10:35 AM)
Are you talking about Canon EOS 5D? Yes... Its viewfinder is bigger than most SLR and comfortable to use...  thumbup.gif
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How about Olympus E3? Its 100% magnification tongue.gif

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