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 **SONY ALPHA (α)**®, Like no others.

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post Jan 4 2008, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(hawk @ Jan 4 2008, 04:05 PM)
I just know 1 thing A200 is going to launch next week (9 Jan) in Mid valley, and a100 is no longer available from Sony center.
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That's why they are throwing A100 like there's no tommorow smile.gif
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post Jan 4 2008, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(Xcaliber @ Jan 4 2008, 04:36 PM)
how much A200 ?
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if follow A100 pricing, it will be:
RM2999 for single lens
RM3999 for twin lens
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post Jan 7 2008, 01:13 PM

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Is A100 take the most sharp picture among all 10MP camera due to weak filter? This is the first time I hear that.
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post Jan 7 2008, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Jan 7 2008, 02:07 PM)
Regarding the anti-alias filter and its effect on resolution:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/SonyDSLRA100/page29.asp
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The K10D vertical AA filter is weaker than A100. tongue.gif
http://www.photozone.de/8Reviews/dslr/pentax_k10d/index.html
Only in horizontal, A100 weaker.
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Some users wondered about so-called "Phantom" pixels in their images. Well, so here they are again.

Now why's that ? The Pentax K10D has an extremely weak vertical AA filter. An AA filter is a low-pass filter that smooths the discrete "steps" caused by the sensor pixels. A weak or non-existent AA filter results in Moiree-effects - this is where the "false" colors come from. The reason for the phantom pixels is a bit more mysterious. It could originate in the pixel layout on the sensor or in the pre-processing by the camera in conjunction with the demosaic algorithm. It is also quite obvious that ACR shows the very best output quality inc. the least amount of artifacts.

The AA filter aspect became pretty much obvious during the local lens tests where the vertical resolution turned out to be 50% (!) higher than on the horizontal axis - that's a quite unique behavior so far. All other cameras produced a symmetrical resolution characteristic. The horizontal AA filter is a bit more aggressive compared to the Nikon D200 or Sony Alpha.

Now is this something bad ? Not necessarily. You may argue that this is a design decision because the potential resolution is roughly 10-15% higher compared to other Sony-based DSLRs (Nikon D200, Sony Alpha 100). That's assuming you use a capable RAW converter naturally - the Pentax PhotoLab or straight JPEGs do not qualify here. As we've seen the extra resolution doesn't come for free. This is probably also the reason why straight JPEGs as well as PhotoLab RAWs are comparatively soft because Pentax decided to apply an inferior software low-pass filter here resulting in sub-optimal results.
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post Jan 11 2008, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(OhIsU @ Jan 11 2008, 09:51 AM)
the sony alpha road show have come to penang or not???  cry.gif
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I'm in the same problem as you. I'm in Penang now sad.gif sad.gif
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post Jan 11 2008, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(kenzio @ Jan 11 2008, 10:34 AM)
The Alpha roadshow in Penang already lepas......it's in Gurney Plaza 2 weeks back...
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Then I think there's no A200 during the roadshow coz someone said that he bought
A100 during certain promotion for RM1999.
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post Jan 14 2008, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(Xcaliber @ Jan 14 2008, 01:43 PM)
paid my deposit yesterday.. wait laa till 25 Jan..
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congratulation in your new purchase. how much deposit u pay for twin lens?
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post Jan 21 2008, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(jehutyz @ Jan 21 2008, 11:56 AM)
A200 really a great price for dSLR.
But that is presales price.
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I heard its not. It'll be retail price. Except that maybe 2 GB will not be included.
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post Jan 24 2008, 09:44 AM

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And buying from SonyStyle store baru ada style mah.. tongue.gif
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post Jan 25 2008, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Jan 25 2008, 10:28 AM)
dx_myrddraal: The Sony 70-200mm F2.8G SSM Recommended Retail Price is RM8,999. RM10,888 is the old price. Expect 10-20% discount at Sg. Wang.

Minolta lenses have always been regarded for their "liquid" bokeh and color consistency across lenses. (This is one thing Canon did not bother with - matching color coatings.) No, bokeh is not as simple as "big circles" or "smooth backgrounds". Good bokeh shows when you have a complicated background, but it smoothens out nicely, is not too contrasty (gives a 2D poster background) and has nice color.

This does NOT count as good bokeh: (shot with a Sigma 17-35mm F2.8-4 EX)
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This is good bokeh: (shot with a Minolta 70-210mm F4, note how the sweeper is 3D-ish, the background 2D-ish)
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If you really love bokeh, Google the Minolta/Sony 135mm F2.8/T4.5 Smooth Transition Focus lens. It is unique to the Alpha mount, and no other lens comes close to the effect it gives.

ALL Sony lenses except the 28mm F2.8 have circular aperture blades.

The Canon 50mm F1.4 Mark I is a slowpoke, much slower than the Sony with 50mm F1.4, vincent_audio I believe we have had a hands-on. biggrin.gif

I have a Tamron 200-400mm F5.6 (under RM1500 new) and the Sony will stabilize it. I know I don't use a tripod for shots at 1/60s even.

Here's another thought - holding your camera out when using LiveView will add camera shake, since it's not resting against your face. Also, LiveView kills your shutter count each time you AF. Yes your shutter will die twice as fast.
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Great stuff there. I was Minolta PnS user. I think they make great optic with less purple fringing.

Anyway, LiveView kill shutter count is the first time I heard. Another great info... smile.gif
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post Jan 25 2008, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jan 25 2008, 10:11 AM)
I don't know, it seems like those Sony haters suddenly come into our thread arguing about how 'value' our Sony system is since the release of A200. I never recall them being in our 'home' before this laugh.gif
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Actually I think I can feel it too. Thanks to Sony A200 pricing, feature and availability. I think never before Sony dumping price of their new product.
I guess Sony learn from their mistake by charging A100 so expensive and does not get new customer but only Minolta die hard fan.
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post Jan 28 2008, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Jan 28 2008, 12:34 PM)
1. The official price is RM1999 for single lens kit, and RM2499 for two lens kit. It will not increase. You can get slightly cheaper at shops other than Sony Style.

2. A lot of options from Tamron, Sigma, Tokina, and some older collections from Cosina (100mm f3.5 macro less than RM1k!!!), Vivitar, etc. You can also obtain mount adapters to suit those old manual lenses from MD mount, M42, etc...


Added on January 28, 2008, 12:36 pm
The adapter is included due to promotion. It's not actually part of the kit, hence it's written on receipt. When I purchase my a100 (which includes adapter by default), the adapter is already inside the box.
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then those bought during pre-sales not bad. can get free memory and also the converter. plus, buying from SonyStyle
is more safe tongue.gif
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post Jan 28 2008, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(The Wonder @ Jan 28 2008, 04:52 PM)
Ok, understood now. Thanks!
BTW if you're so keen on the prime lens why not take RM 1800 (single kit lens) + extra cash for the prime lense. Still a good bargain I believe. Or just trade all the lenses for something up to your liking. Can this be done?
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but kit lens is cheap with bundle. for non-pro photographer like us, just get the kitlens. after got money, then
buy the prime la.
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post Jan 29 2008, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(badguy03 @ Jan 29 2008, 02:15 PM)
If i knew the A200 will be out after 6 months after i bought my A100, for sure i will wait for A200 as it's even cheaper. Somemore you guys describe it until so nice. Haha..
But since already got A100 at first place, so have to appreciate it too. smile.gif

See all you guys, all talking about getting new lens...  How nice...
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Some one bought A100 for RM1999 for single lens 1 week before A200 release. Imagine the frustration and disappointment.

I was also almost bought A100 for RM2200 for twin lens. Very good deal mah tongue.gif
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post Jan 30 2008, 10:23 AM

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will buy from Sony have warranty for lens? is it more comfortable to buy from sony with peace of mind? i let u decide lor. i'll buy from sony if its kit lens. coz different 200 only mah with warranty wor. unless u guys think warranty is not important at all
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post Jan 30 2008, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(williamngwl @ Jan 30 2008, 05:17 PM)
if u buy alpha a200+SAL1870 kit lense,both is come with standard 1 year warranty

if u buy only SAL1870 lense,the lense come with 1 year warranty as well

they are no different between u buy from sony style or retail shop
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actually my comment is for people buy second hand from others.
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post Jan 31 2008, 08:29 AM

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Guys, A300 will be revolutionary LifeView dSLR. I believe those who want PnS LifeView will greatly benefit. And also vari-angle LCD....

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post Feb 4 2008, 04:04 PM

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Got a few bought A200. Faster post what you feel about the IQ of A200? Whether you feel happy to buy it and it fulfil what you expect? tongue.gif
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post Feb 6 2008, 09:35 AM

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QUOTE(Alvinyang @ Feb 6 2008, 09:31 AM)
Hey Guys I just bought my sony A200 do you huys have any advice??
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yes, please go out and take more photo... LOL...

anyway, do buy some protection for ur lens etc..
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post Feb 6 2008, 01:35 PM

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soulfly help...I'm being shoot in the other thread by vikingw2k.... seems like he really hate Sony A100/A200. He said in other thread that he use A100 before and it really make him very angry. sad.gif

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