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post Oct 13 2019, 10:34 PM

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A very rough sketch of our itinerary are as follows. We arrive in Osaka on the 16th of November smile.gif

Osaka
Day 1: Land at Osaka Kansai airport at night.
Day 2 (Osaka Amazing Pass): Dotonburi, Hozenji Yokocho, Shinsaibashi, Osaka Castle, Sakuya Kanohona
Day 3 (Osaka Amazing Pass): Temponzan ferris wheel, Umeda sky building, Museum of Housing & Living, Wonder Cruise
Day 4: Kuromon Ichiba market, Shinsekai, Midosuji shopping street
Day 5: USJ

Nara/Kyoto
Day 6: Nara Deer Park and Todaiji temple and after lunch, travel to Kyoto. Nishiki market and kawaramachi shopping area.
Day 7: Kiyomizudera (optional due to construction), Sannenzaka & Ninenzaka steps, Kodaiji temple, Maruyama park, Yasaka shrine, Gion Shirakawa & Hanamikojidori
Day 8: Philosopher's path, Eikando temple, Nanzenji temple, Daigoji temple, Eikando temple (night illumination)
Day 9: Arashiyama, Gion in the evening/night, Pontocho Alley
Day 10: Kyoto and Sento Imperial Palace, Kinkakuji temple, Kibune/Kurama (worth going?)
Day 11: Fushimi Inari, Tofukuji temple
Day 12: Will be a more relaxing day. To visit places that we missed earlier if any and to finish up any last minute shopping
Day 13: Depart for Malaysia sad.gif

p/s: Places to visit in Day 7 & 8 are chosen based on proximity to each other.

This is our first time to Japan so we don't really know how much time will be spent on each place.
We dislike the "touch and go" style and we like taking our time to walk around the streets and check out the temples/shrines/shops/restaurants.
We love nature and the lovely sceneries in Kyoto
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Do suggest any nice places that we can add into our itinerary. (Eg: Day 10 and 11)
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post Oct 14 2019, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(Monya Meow Meow @ Oct 14 2019, 08:36 AM)
I am arriving in Osaka 1 day after you but will depart for Kyoto immediately so will be doing your Kyoto portion first.
Can't comment much about the Osaka portion as I would rather cut down on Osaka and go to Himeji/Okayama etc for day trips.

I think Nara on day 6 deserves a full day, leave in the evening and head to Kyoto for dinner/shopping at Kawaramachi.
Day 7 looks good
Day 8 looks good, can add in Reikanji (only open during autumn) or Honen-in along PP
Day 9 looks good
Day 10 for Kibune/Kurama will be a full day especially since you mentioned you're the chillax style so having Kinkakuji in there might be a tad rushed
Day 11 can add in Sanjusangendo after Tofukuji, just one station away. Or you can choose to go to Uji which is along the same line and further down south
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Any particular places to visit in Nara and Kibune/Kurama? smile.gif

Thanks I might consider Reikanji or Honen-in.

QUOTE(RegentCid @ Oct 14 2019, 08:56 AM)
Page 1 got Kansai 14 days itinerary posted by me.
You can refer it
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Thanks!

QUOTE(victorsoo @ Oct 14 2019, 09:57 AM)
Your itinerary looks good especially if you want to spend good time at each location. Osaka looks fine but just some suggestions that you can consider for Kyoto:

Day 6: I agree with another forumer that you should spend a full day in Nara and travel to Kyoto in the evening. If you are planning to do last minute shopping on day 12, you can do Nishiki market and Kawaramachi then.
Day 7: Kiyomizu-dera is still worth going. There's a lot more to it than the roof renovation.
Day 8: Daigoji temple seems a bit out of the way? If you are planning to walk the Philosopher's Path, perhaps you can start from Ginkakuji and walk south. Maybe you can consider doing Gion and Pontocho Alley on this day also.
Day 9: Arashiyama might be worth your full day too especially if you don't mind walking to temples like Gio-ji.
Day 11: If you want to go Daigoji, you could do it on this day since it's nearer to Fushimi Inari compared to your day 8 locations.
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Any other place to recommend to visit in Nara? smile.gif

Thanks for recommending Ginkakuji, I actually thought of skipping both the silver and golden pavilions lol.

I would definitely do full day for Arahisyama whole day but not sure what to do in the evening. Maybe just stroll around Gion or kawaramachi shopping area..

I actually live right in the heart of Gion actually..

QUOTE(MR_alien @ Oct 14 2019, 10:55 AM)
if you're travelling from nara toward kyoto from there
take the JR train and stop by inari station(fushimi inari)
u could have merge day 6 and day 11 together
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Thanks! I actually want to visit Tofukuji early in the morning when it opens as it is probably the most popular temple for autumn foliage viewing.

So crowded even when it is early in the morning! https://www.travelcaffeine.com/fall-colors-tofukuji-temple/

Also going to reserve another morning for Fushimi Inari due to the crowd

I would make sure I go to Tofukuji and Fushimi Inari during a weekday smile.gif
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post Oct 15 2019, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Oct 15 2019, 10:49 AM)
here are some tips for those who're travelling to kansai region

1. the immigration process only took 2-5 mins from the moment u queue, they have so many machine on standby
2. going out of japan are all using self check out machine like in KLIA2 for malaysian...but apply to all local and tourist
3. each place like kyoto, osaka, nara, kobe has their own confectionery(biscuit, cake..etc) so be sure to grab them if u see something u like...u can't get them if you left there....kit kat included
4. the seat availability for the sagano romantic train in their website is innacurate...it changes from time to time
5. if you're taking the bus from golden pavilion back to kyoto station, u can actually disembark at a bus stop in front of the kyoto university and visit the imperial palace and walk down toward kawaramachi(saves u a train ride to gion-shijo station from kyoto station)
6. visit fushimi inari by 7.30AM, it takes 1 hour to reach the top and 1 hour to go down....the moment you're half way down..you'll alot of people going up
7. the train in kansai region is more straight forward as compared to tokyo which is complicated
8. kobe is a huge area, i personally prefer u guys overnight if u wanna explore the whole place....it takes around 50mins to go there from namba station and back
i personally go kitano area, walk back down to chinatown...did not manage to visit harbourland
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This is gold!! Suggest sweet_pez to pin tongue.gif

Btw, I where's the best spot to take self portraits at Fushimi Inari? I read around halfway to the top. What about the bottom of Fushimi Inari? Not sure if we would climb all the way to the top tongue.gif
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post Oct 15 2019, 09:47 PM

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Just got my Osaka Amazing Pass 2 day from Klook smile.gif smile.gif

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Oct 15 2019, 01:04 PM)
many places
there are multiple tori gates spot along the way up...got old and new
the one below when you're walking up is the most famous...especially the split

at the split...there will be a sign where it tells to to "use the right one only"
so the left one is completely empty...available for photo opportunities
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Thanks! I think I'll take pictures at the bottom and at the split you mentioned thumbup.gif

QUOTE(sebastianX11 @ Oct 15 2019, 06:26 PM)
after some research and countless reading of blogs and contribution from this thread, here is my itinerary.
the temples in Kyoto are just for reference. i don't enjoy touch n go and will stay in the area if i like it and skip other places.  smile.gif
Day 1 will be 15 Nov, and deliberately organised in such away so i get to enjoy Kyoto more on weekdays (i could be wrong though reading so many is planning to reach some POI before 7am) biggrin.gif

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Day 6 - Northern Higashimaya Area > Murin-an Villa > Konchi-in Temple > Tenju-An Temple > Honen-in Temple > Yoshida-yama Mountain
or Sagano Romatic Train

Osaka
Day 7 - Don't know yet. I am quite clueless about crowded place  sweat.gif

Day 8 - Nara Deer Park > Kofuku-ji Temple

Day 9 - Osaka then 6pm > KIX

feedback is welcome if i can squeeze or exlcude some area. counting cost for temple admission is  bangwall.gif
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Why not put Nara in Day 7? Saves you one trip:

Kyoto > Osaka > Nara > Osaka: 3 trips

Kyoto > Nara > Osaka : 2 trips

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post Oct 16 2019, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(Like a Bause @ Oct 16 2019, 11:24 AM)
hi guys, would like to check, if I'm departing from Nishiki to Arashiyama.. is it more worth for me to take the Randen day pass than commuting with the local rail or JR..

Other than the roof renovation at Kiyomizudera.. that temple is still worth visiting right?
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Nishiki market?

How much do you save by taking the day pass? hmm.gif
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post Oct 16 2019, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 16 2019, 03:03 PM)
Just made my reservation at Unagi Hirokawa in Arashiyama. biggrin.gif
Need to pay 3k yen as deposit and will be used to offset actual bill later, and cheapest Unagi bowl rice is 3.1k yen. laugh.gif Plus, must order one main dish per person. laugh.gif

OK la, since we are leaving Japan already by that time and we don't want to be too cheapskate on food, so splurge a bit and it is a Michelin Star restaurant. tongue.gif
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I thought of Hirokawa but due to the pricey menu I'll go for Unatoto instead tongue.gif

Also because my SO doesn't really fancy unagi lol
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post Oct 17 2019, 08:20 AM

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Any unagi restaurants in Osaka/Kyoto to recommend over Unatoto where you can get a big serving of unagi for 1300-1500yen? See below

Our budget is below 1700-2000Y per person .

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post Oct 18 2019, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(L.Torreira @ Oct 17 2019, 09:56 PM)
Happy if someone give guidance 1-10 to give tips how to survive in Japan cheaply.

1. 200 yen unagi bento at 7 pm slash price
2. Go Kansai from shinjuku station through kosoku bus 1700 yen
3. Drink tap water
4.osaka amazing pass 3600 yen for 2 days for 50 rides
5. Temples are free in Kyoto. Fushimi Inari Tasha, yasaka shrine, philosopher path, mino waterfall, arashimaya

I think 10 days budget rm 3k per pax nothing impossible from tokyo-Kansai return
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QUOTE(L.Torreira @ Oct 18 2019, 03:20 AM)
yeah of course I have plan B. if cannot get those bentos, I will just buy combini rice and eat with sardines that I brought from here. biggrin.gif matsuya occasionally also can

https://www.matsuyafoods.co.jp/english/menu...meshi_hp_z.html

320 yen 709 kcal is a steal

if you know any meal place cheaper than matsuya please share to me
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Whats your budget for the total trip and how many nights? I'm just curious how much you can save by stinging on food?
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post Oct 21 2019, 02:34 PM

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Get the yearly flu jab. Just got myself vaccinated a few days ago smile.gif

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post Oct 22 2019, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(scchan107 @ Oct 22 2019, 10:03 AM)
Geez.... Sagano romantic train ticket for November is like 90% sold out.

Was checking yesterday night for 21 Nov and non available, today quick check for whole november, all showing "x" with exception of last train is available.

Hopefully it will become available in coming days, or else need to queue up and grab the on-the-day ticket.
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I checked the main website and it only shows tickets up to 21st November...

So its actually possible to purchase advanced ticket for the open air carriage (no. 5?)
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post Oct 22 2019, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 22 2019, 10:51 AM)
Advanced ticket for car no. 5, no way.
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Can't advance purchase? Means we gotta queue up in the morning for it then sad.gif
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post Oct 23 2019, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(LinkZ @ Oct 23 2019, 12:56 AM)
Is there Uber or Grab sort of app in Japan where i book for taxi?
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If you play around with google maps, you'll notice there's Japan Taxi and Didi

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post Oct 26 2019, 05:24 PM

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Hey guys, is it cheaper to buy strawberries/grapes in Kuromon Ichiba/Nishiki market or in supermarkets such as Takashimaya/Isetan/Daimaru? Any other places to recommend?

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post Oct 28 2019, 03:25 PM

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Tweaked my itinerary a little bit:

Osaka
Day 1 Sat: Land at Osaka Kansai airport at night.
Day 2 Sun (OAP): Dotonburi - Hozenji Yokocho - Shinsaibashi - Osaka Castle - Sakuya Kanohona
Day 3 (OAP): Temponzan ferris wheel - Umeda sky building - Museum of Housing & Living - Tenjinbashisuji - Wonder Cruise -
Day 4: Kuromon Ichiba market - Dotonburi/Shinsaibashi - Mameshiba cafe - Shinsekai (evening/night)
Day 5: USJ

Kyoto
Day 6: Nara Deer Park - Todaiji temple - Naramachi street - Mt Wasakusa hike - brief stroll around Gion & Pontocho Alley - evening/night @ Kawaramachi/Terramachi area
Day 7: Kiyomizudera - Sannenzaka & Ninenzaka steps - Maruyama park - Yasaka shrine - afternoon/evening @ Gion Hanamikojidori/Shirakawa
Day 8 Sat: Hachiman Bori @ Saga - Kyoto Botanical Gardens - Nakaragi path walk - Nishiki market (Not sure about evening/night plans)
Day 9 Sun: Kibune/Kurama half day - Kinkakuji (Not sure about evening/night plans)
Day 10: Arashiyama whole day - Toji temple night illumination
Day 11: Tofukuji - Ginkakuji - Philosopher's Path - Eikando temple (Not sure about evening/night plans)
Day 12: Fushimi Inari - Last minute shopping at Kawaramachi/Terramachi/Gion/Kyoto station
Day 13: Depart for Malaysia sad.gif

1) Is it worth spending some time at Hachiman Bori @ Saga and at Kurama/Kibune area?

2) I try not to put too many temples/shrines after discussing with SO tongue.gif Any other places/activities to recommend? smile.gif


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post Oct 28 2019, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Oct 27 2019, 11:15 AM)
Supermarkets tend to carry more atas range of fruits for gift-giving so they also tend to be more expensive. Markets or those neighbourhood supermarkets tend to be cheaper and almost as good IMO. My last trip a neighbourhood supermarket in asakusa was selling bunches of amaou strawberries at like 1000yen for 6 big ones, jin ho jiak.
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Thanks! Was thinking if I should purchase them from Nishiki market or Kuromon Ichiba market instead hmm.gif

QUOTE(BOTAK_WAI @ Oct 27 2019, 09:05 PM)
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Thank you but I don't understand the words. Are there any names?

QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Oct 27 2019, 11:05 PM)
Takashimaya/Isetan are rather higher class malls. If you want something more affordable, can go for supermarkets at AEON malls or Seiyu. But the best value is at the local markets where the locals shop at.
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Thanks! Do locals shop at Nishiki/Kuromon Ichiba market? hmm.gif
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post Oct 31 2019, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(victorsoo @ Oct 31 2019, 10:18 AM)
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Also, your day 7 itinerary seems quite impossible to do unless you're not planning to enjoy the scenery and location and just want to take 2 photos and cabuts.  laugh.gif
Instead of heading back to Osaka at 3pm, why not allocate that whole day for Kyoto? Then your itinerary will be more doable.
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Yeah I also feel the Day 7 itinerary is absolutely ridiculous for the Bamboo forest - Fushimi Inari - Nishiki part. Also because the 3 places are nowhere near each other.
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post Nov 1 2019, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(cradle0fFilth2 @ Nov 1 2019, 12:59 AM)
hi guys, is there any kinda snacks / packed food / chocs / instant noodle etc that is a must to try / buy back from Japan which is not available in Malaysia yet? with the influx of DAISOs, Family Marts, Shokikiya....just wondering is there any famous brands which they have not brought it over to our shore yet

heading to Tokeioooo in a month's time.. advice is greatly appreciated =)
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Michelin star Cup noodles by Tsuta/Nakiryu which can be found at 711. Maybe you can refer to the previous post by mr alien on some instant noodles and fried chicken powder..
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post Nov 1 2019, 11:22 AM

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I've eaten those ichiran instant noodles before. Don't expect it to taste anywhere near a freshly prepares tonkatsu ramen lol

As for bringing food in backpack to USJ, I read that if you put the food at the bottom of your bag and u put other stuff on top of it like sweater and personal items, you might get away with it lol. They don't really check that thoroughly when there is a long queue behind you.
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post Nov 2 2019, 03:17 AM

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QUOTE(LinkZ @ Nov 2 2019, 02:56 AM)
Guys, from your experience, is rm12k cash for two person enough mainly for food, train & random spending for 2 weeks in japan? Osaka, kyoto and tokyo. I have paid for accomodation, attraction tickets, flights, etc already.
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Depends on what sort of food you're spending on isn't it? RM12k divided by 14 nights is around RM430/person/day or 11,000Y budget per person per day. Most meals at average restaurants cost around 1000-2000Y? Michelin star restaurants probably around 3000-10000Y.

Random spending is so general & subjective and again, what items? Random spending on luxury goods can obviously break the budget tongue.gif
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post Nov 5 2019, 09:06 AM

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If I withdraw cash from 7 Bank, let's just say, 30,000Y. Would I get like 5,000 or 10,000 notes? Reason I'm asking is because I'm using a minimalist wallet and it shouldn't take too many notes.

And to confirm again that the total charges for the cash withdrawals from Maybank debit card is 1.6%?

QUOTE(fruitie @ Nov 5 2019, 02:09 AM)
Finally had the time to post here... Arrived in Japan on time and JR West was empty, quickly exchanged JR Pass and bought Kansai One Pass. thumbup.gif
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Konnichiwa! tongue.gif How's the weather there?

Any issues withdrawing cash from Malaysian debit card at the 7 Bank? Also, is it possible to purchase Kansai One Pass using credit/debit card?

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