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AVFAN
post Jan 15 2020, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(cHiLdHo0drEaMz @ Jan 15 2020, 12:27 AM)
I will just stick with my streaming devices if no free upgrade is given
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QUOTE(arslow @ Jan 15 2020, 08:36 AM)
240myr is totally fine for the new box. But i would rather buy it outright even if higher price.
Looking at the unifi site, it doesn't seem to have a way to get it online yet. Only says that we need to go to tm point to get it... Sigh
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from the info so far i read, for existing customers....

1. u sign new contract 24 months x rm10 pm to get this new box... looks like u can use old+new, i.e. 2... max 1+3 = 4 for one account.
it is unclear if it means the additional boxes will run as STB to get 4k/hd channels or like other boxes using the app to get SD/poor hd quality...?

2. or "upgrade" to one of those new packages with 2 yr contract.
problem is there are many who are now paying rm189, 179, 169, 159... for 300, 500, 800mbps.
nobody will "upgrade" from 800 to 300mbps and pay more (RM199) just to get the new box!!

my conclusion - for existing customers who previously had free upgrades >300mbps and paying <rm199, this new box offer is meaningless.

perhaps just wait... later in the year, some other offers may come out..?

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post Jan 15 2020, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(man @ Jan 15 2020, 10:45 AM)
240 for a tv box with a lot of limitation, better get from outside
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if your old STB is kaput, no more warranty...

and there are many channels in 4k/HD in unifi tv by using this new box.... then it may be worth it.

if not, u r right... u can get similar box for rm100 to do playtv app... and many other apps.
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post Jan 15 2020, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(cucubud @ Jan 15 2020, 11:06 AM)
I think those subscribers who are not with Ultimate pack, they have to upgrade to Ultimate pack with 30Mbps or 100Mbps or 300Mbps at the advertised pricing.
Those with Ultimate pack, they add RM10 per month for this Android box. The white STB is still valid on VLAN 600 while the new black Android box uses the VLAN 500 internet. They can add 3 new black Android boxes for 3 different tvs.
Total 4 tvs in one Account.

Now, if outside Android boxes can watch Unifi PlayTV, why want to get this black Android box?
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this is the curiosity now...

can the new box, on wifi, work like a normal unifi STB on lan4 using built in app, to get the best quality PQ, and not the crappy playtv apk quality?

i think it is the latter... so, unifi may also be trying to sell the new box like any other android box but at 2x the price and only 2+8gb.

can't do much with it, more so if they put all kinds of restrictions to protect themselves from warranty and accidental mistakes requiring service trips.

QUOTE(Feliex @ Jan 15 2020, 12:22 PM)
If the new unifi TV box can run AOTG and Netflix 4k, definitely is must to grab.
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netflix 4k, u can dream about it.

aotg, possible - we dunno yet.
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post Jan 15 2020, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(cucubud @ Jan 15 2020, 01:03 PM)
It is running on Apps. Maybe the built in Apps is different than the Unifi PlayTv Apps. biggrin.gif
They are not selling the box. They want us to pay for it on a monthly basis.
The Add RM10 per month with a contract of 2 years. After the 2 years, we have to continue to pay the additional RM10 per month until we terminate the service.
Not after the 2 years, we don't have to pay anymore.
They mentioned that we can install any Apps on the box.
Maybe we can install Netflix Apps and watch Netflix from the box. Don't use the built in Netflix Apps.
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if u r right, and i think you will be... using the new box on wifi is no diff from using other box with playtv apk.

that means it is pretty useless...

it is just a 2+8gb amlogic s905x2 box... sure u can install other apps... netflix will be 480p for sure.... what for?



i am only interested in this new box to the extent (i assume) that if i use it with lan4, it will give me the 4k/hd unifitv+bbc iplayer+others if i wish.

no interest with the low grade playtv app or other apps as this can be achieved with a much cheaper box... rm160 can get 4+64gb s905x3 android9 now.

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post Jan 15 2020, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(taqu @ Jan 15 2020, 01:31 PM)
As we have 100 Mbps and more with good latency, VLAN 600 is no longer necessary. Youtube & Netflix can stream 4K without problems so why not TM follow suit.
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this is an excellent point, everybody is asking.

why unifitv (and astri) is so slow in going HD and 4K over internet/wifi when so many others have done it, even dd5.1 audio and works smoothly?

there can only be one answer - they want CONTROL of their best quality stuff - with their own decoders, STBs... to block/minimize piracy.

unlike netlflix which probably has spent billions in developing their own security and blocks, the others are still babies learning how to do it or no money to do it.
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post Jan 15 2020, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(taqu @ Jan 15 2020, 01:58 PM)
Content also matters alot. Not all movies/shows are native 4K. Many still upscaled 1080p. Older Chinese movies on SCM channel look DVD/VCD quality to me tongue.gif iTunes 4K probably still the best out there.
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the SCM movies of unifitv (worse with playtv) are not in HD alto they claim.

if u had ever watched the same SCM stuff that originates from taiwan/hong kong/china, u will see the diff - those are in HD.

quite sure it is just unifi not paying the higher price for HD but just 576/540 but call it hd.

QUOTE(taqu @ Jan 15 2020, 02:34 PM)
So far my AOTG shows all channels on Astro STB (still old one) back at kampung. But this is basic package + Malay channels. Not sure for HBO / Supersports.
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aotg, to me, has improved a lot in the last 2 years.

alto there isn't any 4k content, the HD ones are good enough, a couple of notches better than the "hd" of playtv.

some the best ones incl aec, afn, fn, iqiyi, celestial hd are excellent - video is as good as netflix hd, imo. supersports also good enough.
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post Jan 15 2020, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(chinonet @ Jan 15 2020, 09:59 PM)
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saw this on playstore (using mibox s)..  rclxm9.gif  i proceed with the install... then after install.. shit lah...  sweat.gif
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that app is v1.2.10 for new users or those migrated.

did u try older v7.9.8 or 7.9.11?
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post Jan 15 2020, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(chinonet @ Jan 15 2020, 10:48 PM)
this is ver1.1.1 specifically for android tv..

user posted image

this image below (i presume) is the interface used in the new box..

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this is new... interesting.

where did u find the app - in yr mibox s playstore?
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post Jan 15 2020, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(AMstrong @ Jan 15 2020, 11:16 PM)
i can find it in normal ATV playstore also
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Yes, it is there in ATV playstore.... but same, not working.
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post Jan 15 2020, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(juzmafia @ Jan 15 2020, 11:17 PM)
If you are subscribe to Unifi TV ultimate pack then try login into BBC Player app which is available for Android TV since Oct 2019..

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Ah.. tq for the tip.... i didnt know!

I have old silver STB, dun have bbc player there alto ultimate.

I just checked my sharp ATV... yes, it is there, install, log in.... auto detect unifi connection, no id, pw reqd.

Reasonable stuff... in hd.
QUOTE(AMstrong @ Jan 15 2020, 11:28 PM)
i cant find BCC Player app on my ATV, when browse playstore via PC, its said that my ATV are not compatible
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It is there, check again... search bbc player, player....
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post Jan 15 2020, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(AMstrong @ Jan 15 2020, 11:54 PM)
nope......  hmm.gif

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Looks like yr sony bravia ATV version may be too old...
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post Jan 16 2020, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(AMstrong @ Jan 15 2020, 11:16 PM)
i can find it in normal ATV playstore also
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Yes, this bbc player app is also now in regular android google playstore.

Navigate with mouse... the ATG version can do with remote.

Essentially same app, both started oct 2019.

So, any ultimate user wanting this bbc player app, it is now available on any android device, regular or ATV.
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post Jan 16 2020, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(AV_2018 @ Jan 16 2020, 11:37 AM)
Works on my Bravia 2016. Just search in TV's PlayStore and it'll show the correct one if there is more than one type of the same app.

All the apps available on new Unifi STB except Unifi TV app should be usable on any Android TV such as Bravia.
The BBC Player for Android phone is already available since a long time ago. I remember using it when BBC Player was launched on Unifi.

Edit: PlayStore shows February 2017
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the PLAYTV app currently v7.9.11 does not work on ATV; older v7.9.8 works but will die later.
this is the annoying part - seems they wanna kill it for ATV - too bad for the sonys and sharps.
the new gen PLAYTV now v1.2.10... for those migrated or new subscribers... not sure, but i think will also not work on ATV.

bbc player... possible regular android app was there for some time... i just saw the update oct 2019.
for ATV, that version, as said by someone already, is rather new.


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post Jan 16 2020, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(AV_2018 @ Jan 16 2020, 07:36 PM)
https://www.lowyat.net/2020/203992/unifi-tv...netflix-though/

Confirmed not using VLAN and recommended 5Mbps. This make it seem very likely that the new STB is using the same 4.8Mbps stream as the playTV app which doesn't look as good as the old STB on VLAN600. The new channels doesn't even have the correct 4.8Mbps bitrate in the app. Hope they use higher bitrate. Anyone with the new STB can check on the bitrate used?
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this was what i had been suspecting...

the new box may be a major shift towards "playtv apk" std ONLY - wifi, low bit rate... no different from other compatible boxes now doing playtv app.

if that will be true, some of us need to hold on to the old STB's/Lan4 as the PQ is much better!

the playtv app PQ sucks! tongue.gif

will be hearing what actual users have to say in next few days.

QUOTE(hizad @ Jan 16 2020, 07:57 PM)
Appreciate BBC player apk and Unifi apk for AndroidTV
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bbc player app - u can find in playstore of any android device, regular or ATV.

working Unifi playtv apk for ATV does not exist at this time.

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post Jan 16 2020, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(chinonet @ Jan 16 2020, 09:15 PM)
go to settings to uninstall.. first clear cache & data, then uninstall.. go to playstore and re-install.. walla..

once logged-in.. use the back button to show the left side menu.. use the down button to get the channel list.. pic quality so so lah..

pls take note that the access is not permenant.. after you exit the app, you have to repeat back the same process above to view.. but then at least you can have a feel of the app on the new box..
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how does the PQ compare to old version v7.9.8 which works on yr mibox s? same?
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post Jan 16 2020, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(AV_2018 @ Jan 16 2020, 10:17 PM)
Doesn't work... Still shows not yet available for this device everytime open even after clear data, reinstall, force close...
From what I know, the bitrates are as follows
Unifi TV on Unifi STB - 8Mbps
Unifi TV on Streamyx STB - 2.8Mbps
Unifi playTV old app - 2.8Mbps
Unifi playTV new app - 4.8Mbps
Unifi new STB - ???

The 2.8Mbps and 4.8Mbps ones are max for HD channels. It will auto drop resolution and bitrate all the way to kbps range if network is congested. 2.8Mbps ones can't switch subtitles while 4.8Mbps one can.
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good data!

8mbps is fine, 2.8 is not!

really, even the ahem streams i get are in the range 8-12mbps.

which is why i dun use the old app in like 10 years alto i know it works. laugh.gif

it's only good for tiny phone screens.
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post Jan 16 2020, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(taqu @ Jan 16 2020, 10:31 PM)
If the new STB really produces great 4K output, then maybe need to buy new 4K TV already LOL

Or possible to force 4K to normal 1080p TV? hmm.gif
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if yr tv is 1080p, that's the best u get, even when the stream is 4k... i.e. downgraded.

well... u should buy 4k tv for other reasons - netflix 4k, astro 4k, own playback 4k, etc...

becos unifi has 1, yes... ONE 4k channel only - 502. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 16 2020, 11:25 PM

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QUOTE(AV_2018 @ Jan 16 2020, 10:52 PM)
Is channel 502 really in 4K on the new STB though? It's HD on old STB and SD 977kbps on new playTV phone app. Even TV1 has 1.9Mbps option. HD channels should have up to 4.8Mbps in the quality options.
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That, we wait for the first users to report back this weekend.
Netflix 4k streams, highly compressed, are 12-18mbps, if i remember correctly.
QUOTE(chinonet @ Jan 16 2020, 11:10 PM)
weird.. i tried it repeatedly and still manage to access it on my mibox s.. albeit having to uninstall and install it everytime i want to access it.. maybe can try to uninstall.. turn off the device.. then reinstall it.. once installed immediately click open (ie. launch the app from playstore once successfully inst
quality same like the old phone/tab version.. no option in the app to set video output quality..
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I wud think unifi has some way to degrade the quality for other boxes, if n when they allow it to work at all.
They will want to hold some advantage with new box at least for some time... to sign up as many as possible.
Ir other boxes can do same as theirs, their rm240 box can never sell! biggrin.gif
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post Jan 17 2020, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(GuyM @ Jan 17 2020, 08:16 AM)
Damned... BBC player requires me to subscribe at $10 mthly! Am on 100mbps package...
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The Unifi Plus Box not only allows you to watch Unifi TV but you can also enjoy content from other providers. Some of the pre-installed Android TV apps include BBC Player, Yupp TV, Dimsum, Viu, YouTube and iFlix. According to Unifi TV’s FAQ, the paid subscription for these platforms is not included.

For example, BBC Player is complimentary for Ultimate TV pack subscriptions or you can subscribe to it for RM10/month. Dimsum, Viu, YuppTV are also offered for RM10/month. FOX + will be made available soon. When it comes to Unifi TV content, there’s no mention which channels support 4K resolution.
https://www.soyacincau.com/2020/01/15/4k-un...ibre-broadband/

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post Jan 17 2020, 10:05 AM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Jan 17 2020, 09:43 AM)
My hypptv stb cant power on.. i downgraded my package to unifi 100mbps which shud not have stb.. will they replace for me? Or need add money?
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no free la...

to get new box, u can upgrade back to 300mbps or pay rm10 for 24 months contract.
read the FAQ:
https://unifi.com.my/plusbox#yes
https://unifi.com.my/plus-box/doc/frequentl...fi-plus-box.pdf

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