GG mangles LAN packets to work over the internet, after all its a VPN client. not entirely legal. but any attempt to make profit through it is illegal.

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/147137

ggc basically is just helping u to create a lan-like network for games. this is not illegal. if the users are using pirated games then they use ggc, then its their fault not ggc. ggc is also faster and less lag compare to battlenet.

So its like Hamachi right?

True enough, its use is not for piracy only, but like Hamachi, the majority of users in this forum are indeed using it to enable their pirated versions to be playable "online".

So, please refrain from advertising networks for this program here. Discussion is somewhat allowed (Like with Hamachi)

What's the status like now?

ggc too many leaver ...and easy delay and lag.flying spaghetti monster better than ggc

so strace? what happened to smm now? any updates?

sorry no updates till now
They probably had resolved the issue with under table money, who knows?

strace: you still paying your monthly license fee?

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Added on December 30, 2007, 7:06 pmi would seem to believe that. a lot of these monopoly/corruption issues... like smm/tmnet is due to our very government itself.

first of all, a lot of things go out of hand because, you could easily pay corruption money. while that's so, i believe the efficiency of the police and law is very poor, you can't simply sue anyone for anything.. unlike in usa, u can sue everything.

on the piracy end, well, piracy will always happen, but the question is just.. how much. our economy here is poor, people here are generally poor, and are able to feed just themselves. and of course, because of that, people not just wish to pay for lower price for pirated stuff, they also wish to earn money from it.

all these issues start from the government itself.... and a lot of other issues as well...

This post has been edited by biatche: Dec 30 2007, 07:06 PM

If anyone is getting the new 2008 SMM license agreement, please PM me so I can forward it to Mr. Mike Morhaime to read them and discuss the legal issues hopefully, thank you. and if possible sue the living shit out of SMM, hah!!!

This post has been edited by strace: Jan 2 2008, 01:46 AM

wow didnt realize theres such a thread and good people like strace fighting for us players

hope SMM burn in hell or something :/

/freebump
/ralliesmoresupporters

Strace, thanks for referring this thread from the other thread. Discussion here more lively. My view on the server is that pls don't get it shut down because it will be a loss to all of us gamers. As long as we pay the CC offering the server game at RM2 ph, I will stick to it and have no complaint. I don't think SMM or Blizzard will shut it down because these servers help generate interest amongst gamers for the WC game which I think will die off soon but not soon enough. Anyway, I have been to several CC lately but they said the servers are no longer available. Any updates on this?

wake up and realize that this is illegal and this definitely does not benefit blizzard at all and they WILL take legal action once they have something solid and once that happens those said illegal servers will go poof.

are you siding with blizzard or SMM? take a pick, they are NOT on the same side. and from your replies, you're basically siding over SMM, the bad guys that does nothing but take your money, over the good guys - blizzard that created the great game that you claim you love.

Dear Quazacolt, I hope you will be impartial when talking about this subject in a neutral forum. No one shld take either SMM or Blizzard side. We gamers just want to play game at the most affordable price. The cheaper the better and for free if possible. We are not really concern with what Blizzard will do to SMM or vice-versa. Just let us play. If Blizzard want to close it, fine. If Blizzard don't do anything about it, also fine. Gamer is not at the losing end but only people who has vested interest or personal problems with SMM. I think you should sue SMM for all your unhappiness. I thought the forum is for a neutral place for some healthy discussion and not some place for personal revenge or talk empty things. As for Blizzard, thanks for the game. For SMM, don't know what to say but be careful where u walk.

If SMM goes down to hell, the RM2 per hour minimum restriction will be abolished. Price per hour will be cheap and the market will be restore its own natural flow according to supply demand law. Private servers must go as well. if you want to play with your friends online, hamachi or any VPN tunnel clients should be ok as long as you are not doing matchmaking service through it. Pure matchmaking service should only be conduct by Blizzard authorized servers.
If you love the game, buy it. Right, all dota lovers?

neutral is one thing, supporting whats wrong is another. as strace replied a step ahead of me, SMM going down would mean cheaper cybercafe/original blizz game rates. i thought your all in for cheaper gaming/benefit for gamers? so you are still gonna stay neutral despite all this?

ill be frank with you, im not really that unhappy with SMM or anything, but the fact that they are conducting such low acts, and taking in personal profits out of the gaming population expenses is just wrong.

im a serious gamer, and no doubt such actions by itself is totally unbenefiting to me. my salvation? i dont buy from SMM, i import directly from US thanks to my relatives living in US, and i dont go CC especially those with SMM influence because i have an insane rig.

How much is the US product? I think the local version cost about $200 or so. If it is really cheap to buy from US, we should all buy from US.

http://www.tsb.com.my/product.cfm?id=778
RM139 excluding process+courier charges

Or you can get it from the Singapore distributor, please request for cybercafe license agreement while you're at it

its cheaper, but you will have to pay rm80-150 shipping charges. so best to have a few friends/relatives etc to buy along, or buy few copies yourself and sell it off in msia when it arrives.