I'll get straight to it. I wanna talk about this SMM (and their moves), flying spaghetti monster and license actually. Is "flying spaghetti monster" discussion allowed now? As you know flying spaghetti monster isn't 'quite yet' a free server anymore, it's been acquired by SMM, license holder for blizzard. Am I allowed to make this discussion? Not gonna discuss dota, merely license-related only.

in before thread closure!

i'll stay sceptical and i'll expect immature statements/critics/sermons/curses will fly all over the thread if any sensitive issues brought up.

p/s: what you wanna discuss on the license anyway?

good luck, pal.

anyone wanna discuss the acc stuck thingy..?

First of all, SMM is NOT a "license holder" for Blizzard; There is no such thing. They are basically the official distributor of Blizzard titles in Malaysia and are given the right to sue anyone that infringes on these games.

This however, does not give them the right to create "hacks" (Which is essentially what these 3rd party servers are) for their games. Reason being that it bypasses their authentication servers which check for CD-key authenticity.

Unless someone gives official word from Blizzard themselves, no discussions will be allowed here.

Good someone just start the move, I'll do a little followup
Well there is something to discuss about these license stuff, can I sue SMM with these proof?
http://www.sendspace.com/file/zf5zle
http://www.sendspace.com/file/gkvvuj

SMM making profit through unauthorized local private servers
Support original, do NOT play in private servers
Please shut these servers down

This is exactly what I'd like to discuss. I mean this SMM uhm.. acquired this flying spaghetti monster and they also run smmdota, which I believe utilizes PvPGN. Yet, they distribute this blizzard games and claim they hold the rights to whatever blizzard... yet from what I've read ages ago, Blizzard shut down these pvpgn servers where they can.

Now, as far as I know, SMM is commercializing blue, and they are gonna make it usable to ONLY cybercafes that pay. Now, this don't sound right at all. if its gonna be free, that's not that bad... since it's an open-source server. Yeah, still illegal as blizzard claims. But now, they wanna earn money off this 'illegal' server, and yet they hold the rights to blizzard.. Someone tell me, is this even ethical... I called up one of the smm agents.... they tell me "How can you say that... as in, how can you play for free? you need to pay to play" bla bla bla. It just didn't feel right at all.

But that brings another issue. Player control. Dota is full of leavers and I sure would love to hell know why these leavers exist. What's the answer? How do we control leavers? Playing on uswest-- they can just keep recreating new accounts.

I feel a lot of these issues also has to do with blizzard, they should allow 3rd party servers unless they themselves are able to control leavers, which they definitely won't. If i were them i won't either. It'd be so nice if its like counter-strike. You can make your own server, but yet it connects and authenticates your cdkey.

I do hope that, if they wanna do something, might as well close down all pvpgn servers running in malaysia, rather than earning money off it. With all due respect to SMM... I don't mind paying for WC3 license, but I seriously don't know what I'm doing with all the titles they've been giving us, it all just seem to cost a lot.

I really wonder if Blizzard is aware of their actions... oh well.. Life sure is hard.

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Added on June 18, 2007, 3:57 pmsince when and where did you receive these? Where are you from? got msn? or something? pm me

This post has been edited by biatche: Jun 18 2007, 03:57 PM

The only way that i can think of that could prevent leavers is to change the player's mentality or change certain aspect of the gameplay.

Other than that,there are no way.

Wow, this is... a new low for them. First I heard of them claiming royalties for World of Warcraft (Which they don't even distribute) and now this.

Hmmz....Charging for something open source available on the net....not their own IP....draconian licence terms and pricing....sounds like Blizzard would be kinda interested in knowing about that. Suing them would be another matter though, considering the current state of malaysian IP protection. I don't think it would hurt to have a different distributor though, since i've heard some not too savoury stuff about the current one.

As for player control, Blizzard does have it. It's called the ladder system.

hehe, I like to remain anonymous at the moment. God knows what will happen to me if SMM got my personal details

Nah it is not new, its already there for months. I was not suprised when they use such cheap business tactics for personal gain.

This post has been edited by strace: Jun 19 2007, 03:32 AM

Can't even have a peaceful, safe, fair life in malaysia even in gaming eh? Yeah, I'd probably stay out of it too at the moment. I just had to know what people think and if there's anything we can do about it. At the moment... I guess we just need to play their game.

FSM? wat's that? the only company that can sue SMM is blizzard itself.. and unless someone report those private servers to blizzard, nothing will happen

then by all means, report them to Blizzard!
I've done that but it has to be contact through snail mail. Anyone willing to assist?

this server still active,
not bad

yeah but that isn't what we're discussing right.

This discussion doesn't deserved to be buried or forgotten. Proofs of commercializing private servers from local distributor is all in here. Please make full use of it. Either private servers are legalized or distributor's wrongdoing, You decide.

pin topic please

Well, don't seem like there are too many unhappy folks here. Just you and me. Heh. What can we do strace?

as long as flying spaghetti monster is free to play in my home, i dont care what smm want to do. lmao.

How do you do it?Care to let me know how?

All these private server should be shut down.They are not respecting intellectual property.