Something is not right bro.

It has nothing to do with car model. Those batteries that you had mentioned are very good batteries and they had proven to lasts in other members vehicles. It has nothing to do with age as well. My old workhorse 25 years is still in fantastic condition and my batteries lasts 3.5~4 years.

I will narrow down to either
1. Not driving enough distance for the vehicle electrical charging system to fully charge the battery OR
2. Something is wrong with the vehicle electrical charging system eg maybe the original alternator had been replaced with a reconditioned unit ? Eg my SIL current battery is almost 3 years old and she had already change 3 reconditioned alternator. Tell her to get an original alternator, banyak aje alasan dia. Haiya tired dealing with the same problem over & over again like never ending.

Drive 1 hr hanya 15km ? That my friend is most likely your problem i.e. under-charging.

I haven't come across anything about starter pulling excessive power while cranking. Anyway it's best to always get battery and electrical systems tests done first before concluding anything.

Let me guess your Persona is a 1.6 2007-2016 model with battery size DIN55L correct ?

If I am correct, means most likely your battery is on its way out already (that will have to be proven in the next battery test) and that is why you are wondering why the OEM starter is pulling excessive draw, but it's not, it's due to the degrading battery which is giving rise to the situation you are experiencing now.

Whether can the battery still be use or not, it depends on what the next battery & electrical charging test has to say. One must never based one decisions on what others say, as they can their own interest. If you follow the test results, you cannot go wrong, provided of course the person testing it is honest.

Thank you for the correction, it's a DIN55R. Paiseh. Not DIN55L.

Whether the crank power is still good, that will be reveal in the Starter Test. The battery shop guys should run these 3 tests for you. Battery Test, Starter Test and Charging Test.

Yup no doubt batteries are getting expensive. If you are planning on keeping the car for a long time, then I recommend using good quality batteries and change it on time, but if you plan to sell it away, heck scrap battery pun boleh and let the next owner fix the charging issues.

Finally there is no higher speed starter. The health of the battery actually determines how fast any car will start. As the battery start degrading, it will take slightly longer for it to start due to increased resistance.

Rightfully all the tests must be performed so that that will give me the ability to inform the client, if there is a potential problem with their electrical charging system that may affect the battery's warranty. I understand that many will not conduct such test for whatever reason they only seem to know.

What a lot of dealers are saying about Amaron is true. I don't think Amaron will be the only battery suffering the same fate. When well known brands suddenly starts coming out with different colours, different designs out of the blue, then something is happening already. The crux of the problem is our ever depreciating currency. A weakening currency cannot command high quality goods & services. Period. So to maintain the quality, even more depreciating currency will be needed BUT wants to pay more ? So to maintain turnover, price is either reduced or maintain but at the expense of quality and that is what the dealers are seeing now. Conversely, if our currency is strong, we all will be enjoying better quality batteries, that's for sure.

Marathoner Max has always produced the results my clients are looking for. However my personal experience with my own new vehicle, I noticed that although my Marathoner Max was still showing a Good Battery status on both my testers, certain electrical functions became inoperative lately. So I quickly switched to an even higher capacity battery that twice the price and now everything is functioning as it should. Herein lies my problem, the manual did not specify the battery type and size but asked to refer to Service Center. So is the Marathoner Max bad ? Nope, just that it is not suitable for my vehicle which requires a battery with higher Reserve Capacity and Amp hours. I have Marathoner Max in my other vehicles and they are performing within parameters, so no problems there.

I believe that once you have had the battery test conducted and if it's a Replace Battery status, do a battery replacement and your Starter should start up immediately without any delay. If there is any delay, then the Starter Test will detect something. YouTuber AMD Toyota Master Technician advocates buying original Starter Motor and Alternator from the SC, which I agree but I also know that over here, there are no new alternators from SC. I don't think there is a problem with the Starter Motor, what I suspect is that you have a weak battery and now the Starter Motor is struggling slightly to turnover the engine.

Different testers have different parameters, so generally they will produce slightly different results. Unfortunately based from what I am seeing from the 3 readings, it's a Replace battery status for me, which is highlighted correctly by Micro-200 Pro tester.

The SoH has fallen.
Cranking Test has fallen, that's is why it's taking longer to crank.
Charging Test is good, which shows SoC is 98%.
Resistance has increased.

Wait ...

Luckily I have a sample test on hand before it fades away ...



Cranking Test or Stater Test is to check whether the battery has enough power to start the engine. Herein lies the problem with electrical power, people feel it still has enough power and by the time, they feel it lacks power, it is too late already.

I believe testers are programmed to take into account all values before issuing a result, yup even resistance, cranking test. I think it would be very stupid of a program just to use CCA alone for it's SoH decision.

Let's do this for a test, the other bosses say it's a good battery while I am saying it's not. Let's see how long will this battery last from today onwards 27/7/2024. I doubt it will last even for a month.

Just for info. my car 2011 year Toyota Vios is now using Amaron Hi-Life HL-55B24L TN NS60L with 21-months warranty installed on 11/6/2019.
Today is the 1876th days (5.13 years) and still going strong.
It has gone through the Covid-19 period of non-usage for about 2 years when I was away Overseas (that also debunked the unused old battery life theory).
Prior to switching to this Amaron battery, was using Original Toyota Brand (Toyota 46B24LSH) since new car.
Summary: 2 Original Toyota & 1 Amaron for 13 years+.

Hope this info shed some facts about battery life.

Every time I sent the car to a authorised Toyota dealer for service, the report include a battery check and there was no problem.
The only time I needed to do something about the battery was in Mid March 2022 when I returned after the Covid-19 travel restrictions were lifted.
On that occasion, a battery dealer took the battery for charging as the battery was flat after 2 years.

Amaron with Amara Raja or amaron johnson controls? if the later, expect it last longer. nowadays with Amara Raja, quality drop a lot already

Luckily I have a sample test on hand before it fades away ...



Cranking Test or Stater Test is to check whether the battery has enough power to start the engine. Herein lies the problem with electrical power, people feel it still has enough power and by the time, they feel it lacks power, it is too late already.

I believe testers are programmed to take into account all values before issuing a result, yup even resistance, cranking test. I think it would be very stupid of a program just to use CCA alone for it's SoH decision.

Let's do this for a test, the other bosses say it's a good battery while I am saying it's not. Let's see how long will this battery last from today onwards 27/7/2024. I doubt it will last even for a month.

Continental is superior to Marathoner Max
DIN65L is superior to DIN55L
Of course the price would be higher too.

I don't hàve the technical spec off hand but if you want them, I will try to search for them. No promises, previously such information were displayed in Century Battery official website, since they had changed the layout etc upgrade etc, since then I haven't check if the information is still available online. This reminds me, on my next trip to the manufacturing plant, I will try to get the technical specification sheet. Sometimes having hardcopy is far better than hoping to find softcopy online.