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post May 11 2019, 10:16 AM


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QUOTE(eksk @ May 11 2019, 10:13 AM)
but its the exception right.. just work out on average how much? since puasa month start i on AA only average RM200 a day..
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Depends on your location and your timing

I average 312 for 8 hours starting 8am in Klang valley, starting 8am full AA whole day

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post May 11 2019, 10:31 AM


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QUOTE(eksk @ May 11 2019, 10:26 AM)
AA must be lucky .. must have planets aligned to get good ping and back to back jobs..if kena pasenger bring to non hot place.. good game.. have to wast time and petrol travelling back to hot area.. i
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Not that long or wasting petrol also. It’s all about finding the next possible spot. Like, if I end up in rawang, just waze to batu caves temple. Sure get a ride along the way, if not then at batu caves sure get ride

The only time I have to drive home on highway without ride (other than airport) is when I sent someone to bangi during heavy rain at 4pm for a RM52 ride. Hit target adi so just drive home slowly

Your driving style determines your cost. Heavy foot and like to accelerate from one traffic light to another within 500m, confirm lose money la.


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post May 11 2019, 10:33 AM


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Double posted

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post May 11 2019, 11:59 AM


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QUOTE(wilson7847 @ May 11 2019, 11:54 AM)
Hi Sifu, if i'm using credit card or Grabpay to pay the ride, do we pay during booking or when reach home? how about the toll fees? (All the while I'm using cash)
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It’ll be charged to your credit card directly or deducted from your grabpay wallet after the ride ends

Driver will input the toll amount after ride ends and you will be charged accordingly
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post May 11 2019, 12:21 PM


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QUOTE(wilson7847 @ May 11 2019, 12:07 PM)
Do I still need to access the grap apps to confirm payment when I reach the destination?
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Nope, it’ll be deducted automatically, you’ll get a notification
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post May 11 2019, 01:00 PM


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QUOTE(Calvin871989 @ May 11 2019, 12:57 PM)
he started full time driving grab on 1 January 2019 (grabtology account) with first gen myvi. now changing to or already have his 3rd gen myvi.

act and write here as if he 5+ years doing grab. duh ? grabtology ? ring any bells to you ?

not that difficult to spot the differences between him and his grabtology dupe account. (accounts* , he might have more other dupe accounts*).

seriously don't know why you entertain that guy , yhtan

or maybe you just playing along as well.  laugh.gif

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spin story ?

so, is this where he started driving full time before his new myvi or on 1 January 2019 (grabtology account)
a true lembu back then (grabtology account) and a true lembu even till today (main account)
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and im sure his going to come out later saying grabtology is not his dupe account. any moderators , staff or admin wish to comfirm this ?
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lucifah mohon ceramah
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post May 12 2019, 09:48 AM


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QUOTE(skylinelover @ May 12 2019, 09:42 AM)
Haha same reason lorh

Blame education system

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Another reason could be because these drivers are “renting” other people’s account

Meaning, their own account got banned, so they “rent” or just “borrow” account from friends/family.

Bank transfer can only go to the account holder’s bank account with same name.

So these drivers don’t want money going to their friends/family, just in case can’t get it back.

However, the easiest explanation is probably the main reason: these drivers are just scared that they might get banned any second, so they don’t want money forfeited.

Which makes me wonder, how these drivers behave with passenger on the road, until need to be so scared of the system they rely on to make money. biggrin.gif
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post May 15 2019, 12:08 PM


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QUOTE(dylangan @ May 15 2019, 11:42 AM)
Am i the odd one out or is it you super lucky and efficient. Getting minimum 200 - 300 for 7 hours online with only one hour 8 to 9 am on high fare. Got blow water or not ? I have driven 2 years and even during the pre TBB time i find it hard to achieve ave 200 during this period. For me between 11am and 4pm is the slowest period, Wonder how you achieve it.
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Location, location, location. And AA everything.

Starting from home 8am, first hour average one or two RM5 fare from/to LRT, then at least RM30 base fare with variable TB heading to KL. By 930am already minimum 50+ without counting TB

Within KL, a couple more RM5-10, then will hit either destination Shah Alam, Rawang, or airport. By 11am it’ll be 100++

If airport, drop off straight head back to USJ via elite, turn off engine at USJ21 LRT station Gate B. Mostly RM5 from here, but got kena airport trip also from Main Place. If airport again, rinse and repeat. If RM5 trips, drop off head back to USJ21. Usually got foreign workers want to go Shah Alam direction from USJ21 station with at least RM20 fare.

Also, camp Gate B sometimes can get Gate A jobs too. One of my favourite camp spot between 11am to 1pm if I got airport trip in morning.

If from KL go to Rawang etc, set dest to Sunway Pyramid, but drive toward batu caves, then wangsa maju, the berjaya time square. Confirm get a hit even before reaching wangsa maju.

Even if after drop off at Pyramid, I keep set dest on, a drive on NPE (skip toll) heading back to old Klang road. Rinse and repeat.

At the worst day also at least 200 per day. 300 is when get at least one airport trip. More if back to back airport trips.

I don’t stop to eat in 8 hours, just drink water and pee. I only stop at shell stations, no particular reason, I just like to pee at shell. RFID and paydirect on TnG so I no need stop to reload physical card

Every morning also I buy driver credit on e-pay using credit card. I buy RM50 because that translate to RM250 gross. Top up when necessary. Every day petrol is about 50 depends on actual mileage also la. Most of the time less than that.

Is it tiring? Yes, but no more than playing basketball every day. If you are unhealthy to begin with, sure you need to take nap or eat snack. I drive with science and math, so I want to maximise time on road with passenger within the 8 hours without spiking blood sugar level, because the subsequent crash will affect focus and energy level.

Long story short - it’s where you drive and how you drive.

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post May 15 2019, 12:35 PM


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QUOTE(wuwah @ May 15 2019, 12:26 PM)
Thanks for the sharing bro. U seems not drive inside kl much. Can u share a bit if I start from Nilai going to usj? I planned to do this around usj/pyramid. I'm just starting and actually hoping to find a real job by july..
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Depends on your hours.

Also, huge caveat is, just because I AA acceptance 100% doesn’t mean I 0% cancellation. I see destination bangi, RM50 with tb also I cancel. Because I know if I complete it, there will be at least half an hour on highway with no chance of getting a ride. My cancellation rate about 10% to 13% per week with at least 80 trips completed.

In the morning, if you want to start in Subang, your goal shouldn’t be staying in Subang. Simply put: subang people mostly work in KL (unless you fetch foreign workers la, I once sent a couple to semenyih constrictor site lol). If you sit and wait for within Sunway/Subang, likely make less than 150 gross a day.

Don’t be afraid of driving to unknown places. But don’t do until you get into accident la. I use Sunway as set dest simply because most KL people wants to head that direction after noon.

Set dest Sunway Pyramid, but the rides will end up between your current location and pyramid. Hardly ever got people really want to go Pyramid from there. That’s why if really bad luck KL no ride, I go to Time Square park road side wait for ride heading south.

Also, grab driver app mapping is based on google maps. So please research optimal camp spot. Some U-turns are allowed in Google Maps but not in Waze.
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post May 15 2019, 06:08 PM


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QUOTE(dylangan @ May 15 2019, 04:55 PM)
The thing is his strategy is able to achieve it within 8 hours driving which i think will take most full timers like me at least 10 hours to achieve under current condition. A trip to and fro airport earning 130 will eat up at least 5 hours leaving 3 hours to earn another 170 is really admirable.
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I don’t wait at airport

Example, pick up bukit bintang to klia

I drop off klia, straight away drive to usj. Half an hour max to reach USJ21 LRT station.

Back to back airport trip means, I pick up at bukit bintang, drop off klia, go to usj21, pickup usj21 to klia again

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post May 15 2019, 06:09 PM


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Free PSV training online with Grab
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post May 15 2019, 06:39 PM


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QUOTE(yhtan @ May 15 2019, 03:55 PM)
yes exactly, i need to circle for 5-10mins to hunt for first job, after that everything will be good. Imagine last week thursday i have to circle half round at bangsar, then go to midvalley circle 2 round only secure the first job. It took me almost 20mins to get first job. It happen more and more frequent right after TB is announce.

The grab system is very very complex now, they look at your average fare earning and drop off point, then only decide your next job. Don't forget they will allocate priority job to grab rental, if they cannot cari makan, grab will be in trouble, it does make sense to let them take the ping first. U can try off b2b and then online back, u need to hunt for the job.
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Where I stay, I don’t need to circle biggrin.gif just go online, don’t need to go anywhere, already can get job from neighborhood or LRT station.

Like I said, location, location, location. If your house area 70% factories, well, you know la what kind of passengers you’re gonna get biggrin.gif

EDITED: my rating 4.97 so maybe that’s the difference in job frequency?

I remember when starting that time rating 4.84, hardly any job when camping, but once 4.9 above I rarely have to wait more than 15 minutes for a job with AA, unless it’s a dead place like Bangi la

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post May 18 2019, 04:46 PM


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QUOTE(forever1979 @ May 18 2019, 04:35 PM)
i though tint is no longer an issue...very relax rule now.. back can even pure dark.. thanks to genius anthony loke
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Front still the same biggrin.gif and most people kantoi the front tints
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post May 21 2019, 06:24 AM


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QUOTE(skylinelover @ May 20 2019, 11:02 PM)
Lets hope so bruce.gif bruce.gif
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Gojek entered Singapore about Dec 2018, which is way after Singapore's regulation on ehailing

Right now Gojek suffering in Indonesia because of regulation

I think these few days got news about Gojek saying Singapore is the main focus, which makes sense, because regulation already established in Singapore, just need to follow the rules

For Malaysia, if no-turn from Loke about regulation, probably Gojek will enter by Dec 2019 start operating Jan 2020
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post May 30 2019, 05:49 PM


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QUOTE(ANewcomer @ May 30 2019, 04:39 PM)
btw, is it until now Grab is still not making profit right?  Still subsidizing both customers and drivers???
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/greatspeculati...h/#483bc3756d44

In short, no profit, but they are not looking to turn a profit now anyway
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post Jun 5 2019, 08:35 AM


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QUOTE(Calvin871989 @ Jun 5 2019, 12:22 AM)
I hope your dream come true.

Customer use to or still complain crap expensive but yet continue taking grab.

If after July price still go up more because of demand vs supply , will customers still continue taking crap or find alternative transport ? 

Or will crap just maintain the price after July from losing customers ?

With the new selfie and possible IC/passport identification , some customers might not be in favor of that requirements. Scared their data get leak or spy by crap staff ? lol

And after July , can grab promise no murder or thief against drivers ? Because their selfie isn't going to do jack shit in stoping someone from murdering a driver. Yeah I get it it's for PDRM in case anything happens but can that bring back the death ? Or how will crap be answerable to the victim family members ? This no doubt gives them a bad reputation. Actually they're already one.

Funny how this billion dollar company think selfie "protect" drivers.
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Well, step out from your house, you might get robbed. You’ll never step out of your house forever then?

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post Jun 5 2019, 08:41 AM


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QUOTE(river.sand @ Jun 4 2019, 05:30 PM)
Is this about Robert Kiyosaki's quadrants? What do they have to do with e-hailing  shakehead.gif

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Nothing and everything.

These are questions to weed out “overfitting”. Meaning, if above 90% candidate answer this correctly, either Malaysian ehailing drivers are fairly well educated in finance, or driving school is helping drivers to cheat. The latter is more likely, in fact happening biggrin.gif
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post Jun 5 2019, 09:59 AM


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QUOTE(bcombat @ Jun 5 2019, 09:35 AM)
if u and me can think after 12/7, fare will surge everywhere due to driver shortage.....
probably u and me are not the only one think like that...a lot other think so too...common sense only mah
reverse psychology...end result may not be what we think...just maybe
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So, don’t think too much. Because by the time you arrive at one 100% correct answer, the time to act has passed and you’ll be overthinking about your regrets.

Don’t think too much, doesn’t mean don’t think at all. Go by the key facts, but don’t expect to have the situation 100% clarified. Here’s some reading for you if you are the curious sort: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_computing

A good example of don’t overthink, and living by probability instead of certainty:

We know it’s fucking insane to drive in middle of KL at 6pm on a normal work day. Yes, it’s not 100% certain that all fares there are shit, but I’m 90% sure. So I just don’t go into there after 4pm. I use set destination and camp in Subang, where I know 80% of the fares I get will be frequent trips from Taipan LRT to USJ9 or nearby neighbourhood.

I also know the probability of getting a ride there is significantly lower on weekends or public holiday, so I either don’t drive on those days, or I go elsewhere.

When I don’t get any rides, I think it’s probably because there are no one ordering a ride there or there are nearer drivers to passengers, instead of 100% mod case or grab screwing with me.

I go online in my free time to find Sunway uni schedule, check for big events, etc.

So, here are the key facts:

1. Drivers, especially part timers in this thread, decided to not continue past July

2. Exam is hard for most people, might not even pass and will just give up after July

3. Drivers will old cars might not be able to get new car

4. Drivers that can get new car, don’t think it’s profitable to buy one just for grab

Is it 100% that there will be less drivers after July? No, but it’s probably 90% true. Will the passengers stop using Grab after July? 70% yes if Gojek comes in in time to start another fare war, or somehow Malaysians learned to walk 2 or 3km without complaining by then.

So instead of spending my days in fear, I just understand the key fact and then stop worrying about it. Instead of wasting time on overthinking, I refine my strategy to get consistent earning. Simple as that.
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post Jun 5 2019, 10:26 AM


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QUOTE(bcombat @ Jun 5 2019, 10:17 AM)
zzzz...only read first few sentence
better go & kayuk
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No wonder lots of drivers cannot pass PSV, short attention span and only wants easy answer to life
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post Jun 5 2019, 10:29 AM


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QUOTE(Calvin871989 @ Jun 5 2019, 10:28 AM)
I still think fare will remain same after July 12th. Let's see if Grab can prove me wrong.
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You’ve already quit as driver, curious why are you still so invested in this

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