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post Nov 1 2019, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(greatlife @ Oct 31 2019, 11:04 PM)
Anybody can reassure to me that I still can go and apply the PSV licence at the JPJ even without the puspakom cert (bcos it is an optional item as stated on the grab folder during my exam at d GDC)? Thanks
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JPJ didn't ask to see my Puspakom disc when I applied for my PSV licence.
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post Nov 1 2019, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(emperror123 @ Oct 31 2019, 04:57 PM)
Hi Guys

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this meaning those who are using other people (e.G wife, husband, parents) vehicle will not be allow to do grab already, or just eVP change will do and the current driver will be allow to drive other people vehicle?

need some clarification here
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It says name on EVP (ie e-hailing driver) must be the same as name of car owner, then can renew road tax. So how does Grab renew road tax for its rental cars?

Those renting from Grab, your EVP shows driver's name or Grab company name?

All this red tape makes no sense. There's no good reason why an e-hailing driver using another person's car to do e-hailing has anything that harms the public interest. This issue only reflects the incompetence and stupidity of the civil servants in JPJ and APAD.
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post Nov 17 2019, 03:41 AM

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post Nov 17 2019, 03:46 AM

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QUOTE(Newbie021019 @ Nov 17 2019, 12:15 AM)
Today I completed Day No 6 as a Driver.

For new drivers, I was told that the pings are b2b correct ?
This will go on for a month I was told. Is this true ?

But there are times when the current passenger is still far away from the destination and another ping comes in and gives you some stress especially
when there is a jam. What I do now is to turn the green button to white
( not accepting jobs ) to get some peace and not worry about the next passenger waiting too long

The rain and the jam is a stressful time to drive so I would OFF the App and go home to rest

And tomorrow being a Sunday, is usually a low fare day ? I intend to drive to cover the rental and then take the day off. Is this what you old timers do ?
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No need to stress about the next pax on b2b waiting for you to come. They will cancel if they can't wait and it doesn't affect your driver's CR. However if the pax are smart, they will not cancel even if your ETA is 15 mins or more. Because the system assigns jobs in b2b manner when booking demand exceeds driver supply. So they stack up riders on drivers who are still in transit. Therefore if these riders see that driver still need to drop off before going to pick up them, get impatient, cancel and book again to try getting a driver with empty car, they will just be stacked up with another driver who also has to drop off first. Because b2b only happens when demand exceeds supply. At that point in time in that area, there are no free drivers cruising around with empty car.
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post Nov 19 2019, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(Newbie021019 @ Nov 19 2019, 03:07 AM)
Thanks for the response on the ideal Credit Wallet balance

I had a pax going to Rantau in Negri Sembilan for RM109
By the way, why do you call such riders " jerung " ?

I also had requests from clients who asked me for namecards

This would be good if you want to make money on the side  biggrin.gif
What do you think ?
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Do private arrangement trips at your own risk as that is kereta sapu. If you get unlucky and is stopped by JPJ/APAD enforcement officers, you won't be able to produce your e-hailing app with ongoing job to prove your innocence.
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post Nov 22 2019, 11:52 PM

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QUOTE(Jiao2 Itchy @ Nov 22 2019, 04:55 PM)
anyway, i want to ask sifu2 sekalian here ya.. apologies in advance for the long post..

i got a friend he do grab. he told me he one day earns about 300~400.. On good days can earn up to 400, on not so good days he earn say 280++..

So lets say average he earn per day is 300 la.. He drive 5 weeks a day. He quit his normal job to do grab full time. Currently he is driving or working i should say about same amount of hours as he was working in office before this.. Monday-Friday, driving time is different he say he do morning till noon, then take break and continue evening till night time.. but estimate he work around 10 hours per day..

So based on that 300x5= 1500/week so 6k per month he earns. after minus grab commission he get 4.8k.. He told me his car loan is fully paid, so he only pays for petrol and maintenance every now and then.. I not sure he use how much petrol a month but i guess around 800 can cover for petrol? or lets say 1k for petrol..

So my question is, therefore he earns 3.8k per month nett.. I think that is quite decent no? About the same or even higher salary than fresh grads.. He told me if he wants more money that week/month he work on saturday/sunday or work longer as well..

My question is just this because from my POV it seems this grab job for him is quite sustainable.. For more clarifications: He is living with family and he has a gf so he does spend on dating and stuff.. So i want your thoughts on this since you guys are more experienced than me.
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Is your question whether Grab full time income (as per what your friend tells you) is sustainable?

Based on my experience in KL, those are realistic figures. We can't see into the future, we can't really predict if it is sustainable.

Will demand from riders maintain, increase or decrease?
Will supply of drivers maintain, increase or decrease?
Your guess is as good as mine.

There are benefits as well as drawbacks from being a self-employed full time Grab driver. Just like there are benefits and also drawbacks of a conventional employee job. Just be aware of these factors and make your own choice that you are comfortable with. Other people will have their opinion of what is good, what is bad. You should form your own informed opinion without caring too much what other people think.

Myself, based on the circumstances of my life, I made a decision to be a full time Grab driver and I have no regrets. It's more than 3 years alrrady and I am happy with my life, with my income, with my work. There are others who show disapproval at my choice. They are entitled to their opinion but I disagree with their opinion. To each his own. No need to impose our point of view on others.
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post Nov 25 2019, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(hawk1lo @ Nov 25 2019, 10:07 AM)
A bit late for this post, but i wanna voice out my opinion as well. Ard 2 years doing this part time (some weekends or holidays)

Getting 300-400 a day is like 10 hours almost non stop driving, prolonged sitting, after long period of time it is actually very mentally exhausting. Mostly i get is like 200+ up to 8 hours of driving (early morning till night with lunch and dinner break)

Self development wise driving grab will get u some new experience, but after a while it will be kind of constant, unless u thought of developing soft skill or communication with ppl but just that after some time it will be just stagnant. It you are still young better at least take a stable job and try to build it first while explore part timing with grab, that way you can choose both and see where you want to go.

I felt kinda bad when i drive whole day to get a Rm200 cash nett in my pocket while my fren who works partime for events can get the same just within 2-3 hour.
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I agree, if young and have options, better have a regular job. Can supplement income with part-time Grab driving.

By the way, what type of events does your friend do that pays RM70-100 per hour? 😮
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post Nov 28 2019, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(ViRaViRa @ Nov 28 2019, 12:24 PM)
Guide to those who want to sell your e-hailing car (EVP registered car) :


Full article about this at VIRA.MY

Before selling your car, you need to change your vehicle's status from 'persendirian - e-hailing' to persendirian - individu. Otherwise you can't sell your car. Even the dealer can't help you.

So before even taking your car to the dealer, I would suggest you to cancel the car’s EVP because from what I heard from almost everyone, it could take 7-14 days to change your car’s status. Some people from C*rs*m* was actually surprised that I was able to get it done within 3 days (excluding the weekend). To start with, you need to do the following :

- First, go to Grab’s EVP cancellation page (HERE) and fill up the form. When I first went to the website, the link to download ‘salinan syarikat’  was also there but soon after that, it went missing. So I’ve given an external link (HERE). Please download and PRINT ONLY THE SALINAN SYARIKAT. Fill up the form and then upload it to the first link that I gave you. (take a photo and upload).

- Download and print the JPJK8(Pind.1/2016) form which is available at the first link. You just need to fill up the BAHAGIAN A & BAHAGIAN E. There is something in BAHAGIAN C which needs to be filled up but I left that to the JPJ officer to do (I think the ‘Kelas Kegunaan’)

- Once the form is submitted to Grab, you will receive a ‘salinan JPJ’ (it will not be written as ‘salinan JPJ’ but will actually be blank) and ‘salinan pemilik’ from them within 1-2 working days.

- Meanwhile, proceed to Puspakom to inspect your car. You need send your car for a B2-Khas inspection, which will cost you RM 26.50 (walk-in) or RM 30 (online booking via MYPUSPAKOM app).

- It will only take about less than 30 minutes to get this done, depending on which part of the day you go. Also, please make sure you are at the correct queue / place. In case you are asked to wait behind a long queue (with a lot of lorries / buses), then you are probably at the wrong place.

- Basically they will only be checking whether your car’s chassis number and engine number are correct. They will also check if your car can start properly, the lights (signal, hazard, brake) are working etc. It is a very basic check and not extensive like how it was when you wanted to register your car for e-hailing.

- Once you get your result, please put it together with the JPJK8 form. Also, please make sure that it shows “LULUS” in your result. If gagal, then you need to fix the problem and re-send your car for inspection. Also, the RM26.50 (or RM 30) will not be refunded if you gagal.

- Once you’ve got a letter from Grab, please print one copy of the salinan JPJ. Get a photocopy of your MYKAD and proceed to any JPJ nearby (I don’t know if this can be done at UTC).

- Please make sure you have :

(1) JPJK8 form

(2) laporan pemeriksaan khas from PUSPAKOM

(3) a photocopy of your MYKAD

(4) vehicle grant

- At the JPJ counter, tell them that you want to change the vehicle’s status from e-hailing to normal car. They will normally confirm this by asking whether you don’t want to drive Grab anymore. Just tell them YES instead of trying to explaining and causing confusion.

- Get the number, submit all the documents that I’ve mentioned above. Tell the officer exactly the same thing you told at the number counter.

- Immediately they will change the car’s status back to ‘persendirian – motokar individu‘ in their system. As soon as that is done, you are ready to sell your car anytime.

-In case they said that the EVP is still active, you can try at another JPJ branch like how I did.

- I was not charged for the change of status in JPJ but I don’t know how will it be in the future.

REMEMBER : AT THIS POINT OF TIME, NOBODY KNOWS (WHETHER JPJ, PUSPAKOM OR 2ND HAND CAR DEALER) HOW TO TERMINATE YOUR CAR'S EVP AND CHANGE THE STATUS BACK TO NORMAL CAR. So you might be wasting a lot of your time if you are unlucky like me.

NOTE : Don't waste your time contacting APAD to cancel your EVP. They can't help because for e-hailing, the cancellation can only be done via the e-hailing company itself e.g. Grab / MyCar etc.

That is all, thank you. All the best in selling your e-hailing car.
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Thanks for sharing, I'll be bookmarking it for future reference. Since this legalised e-hailing shit is just implemented, you may be the first person who is going through this to sell your car. It just shows how poorly thought-out this whole JPJ-APAD bureaucracy is.
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post Nov 28 2019, 04:54 PM

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Last time some drivers reported they were unable to renew road tax because JPJ refused due to car registered under spouse's name, which is different from driver's name in EVP. So is this problem resolved or still ongoing?
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post Dec 2 2019, 04:08 AM

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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Dec 1 2019, 11:46 PM)
Well....I don't think it cause any harm or loss to others gua....hmm.gif
Just denied others better opportunities je laugh.gif
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Using mod apps is gaining an unfair advantage through breaking the rules. By stealing high fare jobs which should have gone to other drivers, it is cheating other drivers who play by the rules. Using mod apps show a lack of integrity and honour.

This post has been edited by rjmsfire: Dec 2 2019, 04:13 AM
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post Dec 3 2019, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(destiny6 @ Dec 3 2019, 12:28 AM)
They invested in better bait to fished jerung je ....whistling.gif
Anyway I'm not mod user nor do u sell since it cost 3k+ last time I was offered, ugaiz need to understand not everyone born equal just because lost a good trip already down ohhh my....laugh.gif
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It is not right to think in terms of investing money to get better returns, therefore mod apps is acceptable. Within the framework of the Grab e-hailing system, there are rules to ensure fairness. Basically, whoever driver is nearest to passenger will get assigned the job.

If we talk about fishing in the sea, there is no such framework of fairness rules. So yes, whoever invests more money to buy a bigger net will catch more fish. Whoever invests more money to equip his boat with better sonar will locate more shoals and catch more fish. This is totally acceptable and has no moral ambiguity.

I give you another analogy. Let's say in the passport office, a signboard shows the rule is 'first come first serve by taking a queue number'. Another signboard says 'bribing is forbidden'. And today all staff bar one are on leave, only 1 counter open. So imagine you took a queue number and after waiting 4 hours, you are almost there, just one more number to reach yours. Then a runner comes in, goes straight to counter and hands over a big 'investment' to the officer, who then serves him without queue number. And this runner has 50 passports to apply for his clients. The officer takes 2 hours to process those. You end up waiting another 2 hours then you are served.

Would you say that's totally acceptable and you have no issues with being made to wait 2 hours longer, since somebody else 'invested' money to jump queue while you didn't?

This post has been edited by rjmsfire: Dec 3 2019, 09:39 AM
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post Dec 10 2019, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(terion @ Dec 10 2019, 12:00 PM)
i done that b4 but not practical la

if road block then jialat

why MOT can come up with such brilliant plan one?
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I think all these road tax renewal problems originate from the civil servants at JPJ. They are either too lazy, or too stupid, to come up with specific regulations for e-hailing. So they just treat e-hailing private cars the same as commercial taxis and copy & paste taxi regulations to e-hailing. Thus they tie e-hailing cars road tax renewal to having Puspakom and EVP validity.

As for why Minister of Transport can't control (or sack) the civil servants at JPJ, I don't know. Either he's incompetent or at his wit's end against the Little Napoleons in JPJ.
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post Dec 12 2019, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(PinkBullet @ Dec 12 2019, 04:41 PM)
I plan to do it as part time only, when I free or weekends. How do I register as grab driver? Need directly go their office?
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Now not so easy any more due to the PSV licensing.

1) Download, print out the JPJ L8A form for the doctor to do the medical check for you.
2) Attend 6 hour PSV class for e-hailing at driving school.
3) Pass the PSV exam.
4) Register as a driver with Grab. Can do it online or go to their office.
5) If using your own car, ask Grab to apply E-hailing Vehicle Permit (EVP) for you.
6) After getting your EVP, do a Puspakom inspection for your car if registered more than 3 years ago, ie 2016 or earlier. Ensure you have breakdown triangle and 1kg fire extinguisher onboard.
7) Buy e-hailing add-on annual insurance for your car. Or you can buy daily cover through Grab driver app.
8) Pay SOCSO under e-hailing driver category.
9) Attach JPJ's e-hailing sticker to your front and rear windscreens.

You are now ready to be a Grab driver.

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post Dec 14 2019, 08:50 AM

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QUOTE(staindbtc @ Dec 14 2019, 12:30 AM)
Considering trying out Grab for the first time but appreciate if someone could listen to my situation and provide some insight.

Sadly I just got retrenched last week and after just purchased a new car (Honda city). I am trying to look for a new job but would like to try freelancing instead while doing ehailing part time. My question mainly is, is it worth doing Grab at all with a new car since I heard from people that once u start, everything about your car goes to hell ( from resale value to voiding car warranty and insurance ). I have searched around for concrete information especially regarding the voiding of warranty and insurance but to no avail. Appreciate it if any kind soul can enlighten me and suggest if whether I should proceed or not. Thank you for your help and understanding in advance.

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High mileage reduces your resale value. So depends you do e-hailing for how long. If you do e-hailing for 6 months then found a job, you add another 30,000km mileage to your car. But if you only sell after let's say 8 years, those extra 30k mileage won't be significantly more than other 8 year old car, so won't affect your resale value. Unless you want to sell when car is 3 years then it looks higher than other cars.

Just go to service centre (different from the one you usually go to if you are afraid they recognise you) to ask if they honour your warranty if you use your car for e-hailing. I don't know about Honda, but in the Perodua owner's handbook, they have a T&C that says warranty won't apply to cars used as taxis. If you claim warranty, take out the JPJ e-hailing stickers and just deny it has been used for e-hailing if asked. Hopefully the service centre guys won't take the trouble to access mysikap to check for your AH vehicle code.

It is compulsory to buy e-hailing add-on insurance, on top of your regular private car insurance, if you do e-hailing. So if you have an accident while doing e-hailing, claiming insurance won't be an issue.

Your key consideration should be whether you have money to pay your installments and maintenance without a job, or get your beautiful 'resale value maintained' car repossessed if you can't keep up with installments.
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post Dec 17 2019, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(pipedream @ Dec 17 2019, 08:46 PM)
Are you fucking me grab?

Fucking piece of scamming company they are.

I swear next year i am quitting for good.

Edit: To clarify, these are the free credits i got after completing their pakej pikul bersama early bird. And i don't drive much nowadays, so i still have the credits remaining.
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They did say at the beginning that those credits will only be valid for 1 month. Basically they want drivers to do jobs to use up those credits without too much delay. I finished mine after 3 days, haha.
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post Dec 29 2019, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(JungWoo @ Dec 28 2019, 08:58 PM)
Then i will give 1 star plus report for driver abusing the function
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You are allowed to rate 1 to 5 stars, which is meant to be proportionate to the level of service provided by the driver. If you think your driver clicked they've arrived before reaching your pick up location, you are equating that to '1* - worst service ever'. It goes to show how petty and vengeful you are and lacking in any sense of proportion. You are the equivalent of a teacher who marks an English exam paper with an F the moment you spot a single spelling mistake.
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post Dec 30 2019, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(Blvch @ Dec 30 2019, 08:49 AM)
Guys Grab just out new weekly incentive, the incentive for New Year (10pm - 3am)quite high.

Is it worth doing, and any advice/discussion?
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Definitely worth it. You will earn a lot more than other days.
Advice is avoid sending people to countdown venues after 10pm, especially KLCC. You will get into standstill type of jam when you are 1km away.
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post Jan 11 2020, 08:48 PM

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QUOTE(andrwss @ Jan 11 2020, 07:29 PM)
Actually if rate passengers red face with behavior problem/made a mess etc, grab staff will monitor and take priority for actions. I leave many red face before and once grab staff call + email follow up within 1-2 hours.

They tell me if passengers made my car dirty i can go car wash and claim with receipt up to rm150 (but i heard from my friend can claim much more than that if they damaged ur car stuff like leather seat etc). But where do i claim my time lost? Easily 2-3 hours wasted with one dirty trip. That is why i tell those industrial place bangla indo with dirty shoes can f off lol, even big fare also not worth it.
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For those construction site workers, I spread newspaper on the foot area before I let them enter my car. I'd prefer to earn their money than cancel.
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post Jan 12 2020, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(cede1975 @ Jan 12 2020, 12:40 PM)
Thks, Im at brickfield now. red zone but no ping as well.
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If no ping, one of the things you can do is to clear your cache and restart driver app. This has worked for me before. Sometimes no ping is due to your phone somehow being messed up. If still no ping, drive to Bukit Bintang. There sure have ping. It's the highest demand area in all of Klang Valley. If still no ping, then it is probably the booking system is down. Check with other drivers to know if that's the case.

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post Jan 13 2020, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(missysleepy @ Jan 13 2020, 07:29 PM)
Need advise.
I have failed my blood test in Grab office. They now allow me to come back to do the blood test.

After a week. my blood test still maintaned even after taking med . I think it's not fast to drop to low level.
My blood level is at 148 to 155 .

Can i do my medical check up outside instead of Grab ?
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Last time I did PSV medical checkup at GDC don't have blood test. Only have urine test. Do you mean measure blood pressure??

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