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post Jan 25 2019, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Jan 25 2019, 08:54 AM)
Hi,

There are so many insurance out therr. What are the criterias we should look in choosing the right insurance? Maybe looking for ILP with medical card coverage. Thank you.
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General importance

1. Medical Card
2. Life / Personal Accident
3. Critical Illness / Waiver of Premium
4. Other riders


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post Jan 26 2019, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(unknownhuman @ Jan 26 2019, 12:31 PM)
Hi folks, I've been reading up on deferred annuity and I can only find packages from GE and Prudential. Are there other insurance companies with similar products ?
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I'm sure they do, what prompt you to look into deferred annuity ?
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post Jan 26 2019, 07:44 PM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Jan 26 2019, 04:33 PM)
What is the most cost effective tool to use to setup insurance trust? Term or ILP?

Anyone has experience in this area?
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In the short term, term insurance is cheaper although the cost will slowly increase overtime. You may also notice that term insurance may only cover up to 70 or 80 yrs old depending on the insurer.

If you're looking for long term without worrying that a policy is not renewable, then taking an ILP to setup a trust is easier.


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post Jan 26 2019, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ Jan 26 2019, 08:27 PM)
I'm looking at specific term until my kid reach a certain age for trust purpose. I have other life insurance policies that cover until 80 at least. Apart from term or ILP, any other tool can be used for trust for kids which is cost effective?
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Cash and Properties (fully paid) can be used as a trust
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post Jan 27 2019, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Jan 26 2019, 11:41 PM)
tuan tuan dan puan puan

alex looking for standalone critical illness policy.

coverage RM120k. Early payout allowed. Please quote tq
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Don’t think there is such plan for early payout yet, normal critical illness yes

QUOTE(unknownhuman @ Jan 27 2019, 11:28 AM)
I've been doing PRS for a few years now, but the idea of having some extra insurance coverage out of the same money put in intrigues me
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Oic, well it’s more of a [fail-safe] in the event that you pass on earlier than you can wait for the money to be accumulated.

Just don’t expect high % of return, if you can accept this fact then it’s a viable plan for your financial planning

QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jan 27 2019, 12:14 PM)
I still have my PruBSN takafulink.

I am planning to move out and look for medical insurance plus life insurance (sum covered min RM100k).

PruBSN has a Life Insurance which is PruBSN warisan, but sum covered RM250k so the monthly is higher...
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What’s your budget, age, gender, smoker or not and your occupation

And the amount you’re paying for it at the moment ?

QUOTE(eddydo @ Jan 27 2019, 01:40 PM)
Hi guys,

23, M, non-smoker.

Just reviewed my very old policy from GE.

Paying RM110 per month:
out patient cancer treatment rm15k only
out patient kidney dialysis    rm15k
emergency accident out patient rm3k
room n board rm150 per day
overal lifetime limit rm150k

looks pretty low

Any advice moving forward?
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That depends on your current budget and what your future planning for yourself with the salary that you’re earning at the moment, will probably need to talk to a life planner to help you understand your insurance better.
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post Jan 27 2019, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(Leo the Lion @ Jan 27 2019, 03:27 PM)
RM250~360.
30 this year (August)
Non Smoker
Gender-Fluid (Legally a guy).
Team Lead Developers
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Alright let me get back to you as my software is facing some issue smile.gif

QUOTE(eddydo @ Jan 27 2019, 06:40 PM)
since you're from AIA,

for someone who is single, 40-60k annual, no commitment yet,

Will the A-plus health suffice or should I do a med+life insurance?

ie. A life signature beyond + a plus health etc

No idea how all these works.

Thank you in advance smile.gif
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A person earning 40k - 60k annually, should cover at least 5x to 10x of their income, in this case 200k - 600k.

That being said, it also depends on the individual’s commitment, if they have commitment that is over 50k/yr (not including savings), which means this person would have surplus of 10k to do other things which includes buying insurance or investment.

For starters I would get a medical card first in this case A Plus Health and the balance to get as life insurance

QUOTE(eddydo @ Jan 27 2019, 07:50 PM)
Don't think it's a IL HealthProtector as it have a higher lifetime limit of 450k compared to mine @ 150k.

It's called great protectlink insurance.
the 990k you're referring to is from GE?
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Seems like a very old policy to still have lifetime limit. Probably it’s best to review the existing coverage ? smile.gif
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post Jan 28 2019, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Jan 28 2019, 11:05 AM)
Probably the medical bills.
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QUOTE(nakedtruth @ Jan 28 2019, 11:07 AM)
Yeah this is the general... all insurance provider offer similar what distinguish among the insurance provider?
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Sad to say there is nothing much to distinguish, insurance is still an insurance, it's akin to saying "Can an Apple tree grow an orange?"

Get what you need to cover yourself
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post Jan 29 2019, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(eddydo @ Jan 29 2019, 07:44 AM)
what is the difference between regular premium vs single premium?

Is it better to pay within 5/10/20 years or till the end of coverage? (i.e., 80years)

Just met an AIA agent,
two plans drafted
A Life signature beyond
A Life Link 2+ a plus health

any inputs are welcome!
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Single premium is a one time payment like MRTAs where it's paid in 1 lump sum upfront.

Regular premium is where you paid on a regular monthly / quarterly / semi annually / annually to your insurance premium such as an investment link or a traditional policy.

On the payment term whether a shorter or longer tenure is applicable for you depends on your objective of the coverage and your personal finance planning. If a shorter term is more suitable for you and you have a lot of cash flow, then it's not an issue to quickly paid off the policy so you can own a policy that is fully paid. However if cash flow is an issue then perhaps you can resolve to pay it over a longer term period.
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post Feb 1 2019, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(cucikaki @ Feb 1 2019, 09:20 AM)
Hi. I applied for PruBSN Anugerah Plus insurance on 30/1.

Receive email on 31/1 from prudential on the confirmation.

Agent say the coverage start 1 february.

But he said my february contribution is free. Will only deduct from credit card march onwards.

However he say need to pay application fee one time which is equivalent to my monthly contribution. Is this true? Need transfer to his personal account as he paid the fee upfront for me yesterday upon registration.
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There is no such thing as free insurance, he must have either paid it for you to get the policy inforced.

Make sure you get him to issue you the receipt of the payment made.
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post Feb 2 2019, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(cucikaki @ Feb 1 2019, 03:12 PM)
Ya, he did pass me the insurance receipt for RM200 payment. He paid in advance. (Just that the receipt has no indication that the payment is for registration or monthly premium for feb)

However, for february, i need to pay rm200 (registration/application fee) + rm200 (monthly premium).

He said monthly premium will be covered by him for february, but i need to pay registration/application fee. Is there such thing?

My family members were under great eastern, and they never encountered such thing as application fee.
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Hmm sounds to me that he pre-pay the premium for you.

Question is why didn’t you just register for debit/credit card payment, hassle free and don’t need to transfer here and there.

QUOTE(cringe @ Feb 1 2019, 06:59 PM)
Anyone here applied medical insurance through online?

I saw Manulife is selling their medical card through online. I'm quite interested actually to apply for the medical card when I read the way we need to make claims if we admitted to the hospital.

AXA Insurance also doing the same.

https://www.manulifenow.com.my/Claims.aspx

https://www.manulifenow.com.my/ManuEZMed.aspx
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Nope I’ve never bought any medical card online before, you can try it ur self and let us know the experience.

QUOTE(cucikaki @ Feb 2 2019, 01:24 AM)
Email of 31/1 is To make first payment. However, agent said he paid for me already. Today i receive email saying that my policy is enforce on 1/2/2019.

So actually im paying my february policy myself? I asked a friend who took insurance recently with prudential, there no ‘registration fee’. And no cashback from agent also.

So i feel like this so called ‘cashback’ for february actually doesnt even exist?

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Like I said there is no such thing as free insurance unless stated otherwise by the insurance company before signing up.

Maybe the agent is desperate for your sales to key into the figure for January that’s why he quickly pay for you first and now need you to pay him back for the prepayment.

Anyways no hard and fast rule, if you feel so much issue just for this policy, you can feel free to free-look the policy and get a refund.
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post Feb 10 2019, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(shodan11 @ Feb 9 2019, 06:31 PM)
Hi all..

I came across an ad post on Instagram, something about having 400k savings under some AIA takaful plan, contribution as low as 150/month. What plan is this, any sifus know about it.

If yes, how does it work & what is the premium paying term, sum assured etc. Wonder how does 400k come from and for how long.
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I think the figures are a little exaggerated in the ads. laugh.gif Probably that AIA agent portrayed a wrong message through the ad they've create.


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post Feb 11 2019, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Feb 11 2019, 09:16 PM)
Want to ask.... Let's say my ILP monthly premium is Rm300 per month... Insurance charge is rm100 per month...

Assuming that I already in the 7th year, which means 100% premium allocation to purchase unit....

Question: can I contribute variable premium from this stage onwards?

E. G... Contribute Rm200 per month... Since inside got some cash value buffer...

If do it between y1 to T6, how will it affect agent distribution cost?

Tq
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You may contribute or change your premium contribution at any point of time, just be aware that your policy may lapse faster than usual if you reduce your premium contribution.

If you do it between year 1 - 6, it just reduces the amount of commission your agent earns as well as your policy being lapsed at a faster rate.
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post Feb 12 2019, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Feb 12 2019, 01:47 PM)
I can track my cash value. So as long as it is above water, no prob right?
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yeap you're right =)
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post Feb 13 2019, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(HyourinMaru @ Feb 13 2019, 04:15 PM)
Do I need to have AIA insurance plan before eligible to appky for AIA Vitality? Called AIA CS he said can apply without any insurance with AIA, tried but it says not eligible.

Also, do all AIA insurances eligible for Vitality?
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Yes you need to have a AIA insurance policy to register for Vitality
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post Feb 13 2019, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Feb 13 2019, 04:20 PM)
Is it true that certain insurance companies like AIA will review the exclusion clauses of their customers every 2 yrs. May i know how is the successful rates for insurance companies to uplift the earlier exclusion clauses like eyes which was laser for retina weaknesses?
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Most insurance company will accommodate to your request to review your exclusion clause, depending on whether improvement on your health status will allow you to appeal for the review.

QUOTE(HyourinMaru @ Feb 13 2019, 04:22 PM)
So any AIA insurance policy will do?
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Yes

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post Feb 13 2019, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(hpteoh88 @ Feb 13 2019, 04:30 PM)
QUOTE(lifebalance @ Feb 13 2019, 04:23 PM)

Most insurance company will accommodate to your request to review your exclusion clause, depending on whether improvement on your health status will allow you to appeal for the review.

What is the successful rate for insurance company to review the earlier exclusion clauses as i feel that insurance company and insurance agents are just using the excuses that insurance company will review the earlier exclusion clauses as a marketing gimmick for the customers to signed on the dotted lines telling the customers pls signed first and the insurance companies will review later in 2 yrs time to uplift the exclusion clauses....?
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if your situation has really improved to the point that the underwriter deem that it's unnecessary to impose the exclusion, then I don't see an issue on the insurance company removing the exclusion.

Success rate depends on how positive is your doctor's comment and report on your situation. Just be wary that not all diseases / disability are given the same verdict on the appeal and its on case to case basis.

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QUOTE(wilson1149 @ Feb 14 2019, 02:44 PM)
Hi all agents,

What different between investment link and medical insurance?

pros & cons?
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Investment link policy = insurance + riders ( add on benefits ) + savings/investment

medical insurance is a rider itself, you can also purchase it on its own without an investment link policy. But you can't add on any other benefits as compared to an investment link policy

Where as an investment link policy may include your
1. Medical Insurance
2. Death and Disability benefit
3. Critical Illness coverage
and etc


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post Feb 15 2019, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Feb 15 2019, 10:25 AM)
ic, so even if i pay lesser in first 2 years, and then payback subsequent premium later, my agent will still get his full distribution cost, betul?

wah like that....confirm eat...
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QUOTE(alexkos @ Feb 15 2019, 10:26 AM)
but standalone medical later age 50+ fuiyo cost soars like rocket
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biggrin.gif so what's ur take ? don't buy insurance because don't want agent to earn any commission ? that's akin to saying I buy Nasi Lemak from Aunty but I want the cost price only for the ingredient, not for the Aunty's hard work to wake up in the morning to prep the food, bring it to the stall, serve it to you.
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post Feb 15 2019, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(alexkos @ Feb 15 2019, 01:34 PM)
Really oh? I compare d.... Standalone and my ilp... Both got projected cost.... For some weird reason my ilp medical card charge is substantially lower. No didn't count the investment portion. Purely insurance charge.

Focus column F and G. Everything bao at age 60 only need  pay rm6706. 97 insurance charge. But standalone medical card Fuiyo..... 5 digit
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Sure la insurance company got ways to earn from you if they run under investment link, e.g investment charges etc.
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post Feb 18 2019, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(darksider_515 @ Feb 16 2019, 08:41 PM)
I have bought a AIA insurance 10years ago with R@B 100.
Recently, I receive a letter asking me to top up to prevent lapse. Is this a common issue that would happen for an old insurance plan?
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It means ur premium you're paying not is not enough to cover the cost of insurance, if you don't top up = ur policy lapses

QUOTE(Xithyl @ Feb 17 2019, 09:10 PM)
Any AIA agent can clarify this for me? Was approached by AIA agent in the hospital proposing lady plan to my wife. Since she is pregnant, agent said i can earn money from this. The lady plan witht the baby plan. The proposed coverage is 300k for the lady plan. Premium for everything is around 12k. So apparently i can get this 9k once all policy is approved. Then another 9k next year since my baby will be born this year. All i need to do is settle the first year 12k premium and i will get a total of 18k back. No other TnC?
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well seems to me you're buying the insurance for the wrong reason if its just because of some cash reward, an insurance policy is a long term commitment to ensure you're covered for a long period of time.

Besides the cash reward, what other benefits do you see yourself worth taking up this policy ?

QUOTE(BFGWong @ Feb 18 2019, 10:35 AM)
Anyone can help with recommendation for travel insurance?

1 week Taiwan.  Would like to get one with some compensation for "travel inconveniences", seems like most basic packages doesnt cover it
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I use AIG personally, it's good enough

QUOTE(55665566 @ Feb 18 2019, 10:42 AM)
Hi,
I have an ILP with AIA and I thinking want to change the fund as my initial fund was suggested by the agent at 100%

Any suggestions or where to see the list of fund available?
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You can refer to the AIA website for the list of it or contact ur agent for assistance.

QUOTE(- T - @ Feb 18 2019, 11:08 AM)
Any recommended AIA agent? Planning to get a medical insurance
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I know someone who can help you

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