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 Insurance Talk V5!, Anything and everything about Insurance

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lifebalance
post Dec 24 2019, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(afkwan @ Dec 23 2019, 06:07 PM)
ya ya . been told something like new plan must be able to cover until age 100

meaning buying new plan in 2020 got to pay more due to BNM guide is true right?
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Insurance agents can still quote with the following terms
up to 20 years
up to 65 years old
up to 70 years old
up to 80 years old
up to 100 years old

Basically the system will compute to tell you that based on its projection, this is the amount of premium you'll need to pay to sustain for this length of period. Whether it achieve its projection is another matter.

But since BNM decides to take a more safe approach, chances of the projection to achieve its target is higher since it's under-projecting but the funds may outperform.

Bad side is that the figures won't look so interesting on paper.

QUOTE(questionX @ Dec 24 2019, 01:59 AM)
How to answer the questionnaire asking if you had sexually transmitted disease in the past when you sign up for new insurance? How to answer this? So embarrassing. I'm sure many here must had caught stuff like gonorrhea and chlamydia in the past. But how many actually truthfully answer this? I feel this question is like such a trap. Like somehow down the road they are going to use this against you.

To all insurance agents here, does your client actually tell you they had STD in the past?
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just tell ?

it's a declaration since you intend to apply for something in this case an insurance and it's a risk factor. If you don't intend to tell anything about it then you'll be denied of any claims in the future even if you pay for your premium.
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post Dec 24 2019, 05:29 PM

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Hello, asking for a friend:

40 y.o male with 2 kids age 8 and 11
looking for family plan
medical card,
rider for disability/accident/death
monthly income 10k


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post Dec 24 2019, 05:36 PM

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Also would like to ask about disclosure..

what if you are a on and off smoker. say the time u signed up the policy, u didnt smoke. but then after you do. the you stop. then you start again. do you have to notify your agent?
lifebalance
post Dec 24 2019, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(chichichi @ Dec 24 2019, 05:29 PM)
Hello, asking for a friend:

40 y.o male with 2 kids age 8 and 11
looking for family plan
medical card,
rider for disability/accident/death
monthly income 10k
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For this kind of planning, will be best to sit down with an agent to discuss otherwise it’s a normal quotation where you’ll get agents pming you on random quotes.

QUOTE(chichichi @ Dec 24 2019, 05:36 PM)
Also would like to ask about disclosure..

what if you are a on and off smoker. say the time u signed up the policy, u didnt smoke. but then after you do. the you stop. then you start again. do you have to notify your agent?
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As long as you’ve smoke a single cigarette, you’re considered a smoker for 1 year.

It’s best to notify your agent if you’re a smoker again otherwise your claim may be impacted as you’re paying a non-smoker premium but maintaining a higher risk by choosing to smoke.
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post Dec 24 2019, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Dec 24 2019, 05:39 PM)
For this kind of planning, will be best to sit down with an agent to discuss otherwise it’s a normal quotation where you’ll get agents pming you on random quotes.
As long as you’ve smoke a single cigarette, you’re considered a smoker for 1 year.

It’s best to notify your agent if you’re a smoker again otherwise your claim may be impacted as you’re paying a non-smoker premium but maintaining a higher risk by choosing to smoke.
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aaa.. thanks lifebalance..
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post Dec 24 2019, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Dec 24 2019, 09:29 AM)
Insurance agents can still quote with the following terms
up to 20 years
up to 65 years old
up to 70 years old
up to 80 years old
up to 100 years old

Basically the system will compute to tell you that based on its projection, this is the amount of premium you'll need to pay to sustain for this length of period. Whether it achieve its projection is another matter.

But since BNM decides to take a more safe approach, chances of the projection to achieve its target is higher since it's under-projecting but the funds may outperform.

Bad side is that the figures won't look so interesting on paper.
just tell ?

it's a declaration since you intend to apply for something in this case an insurance and it's a risk factor. If you don't intend to tell anything about it then you'll be denied of any claims in the future even if you pay for your premium.
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Just curious, have you seen anyone so far declaring themselves to have had STD in the past?
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post Dec 24 2019, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(questionX @ Dec 24 2019, 06:20 PM)
Just curious, have you seen anyone so far declaring themselves to have had STD in the past?
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Personally I have not encounter any applicant which such condition.

I would do the same for all my applicant to get them to declare, otherwise its not my problem but the applicant when it comes to claim. That's the disclaimer
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post Dec 24 2019, 07:27 PM

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post Dec 24 2019, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(pmaxv @ Dec 24 2019, 07:27 PM)
roystevenung I'm planning to upgrade from PruValue Med to PruMillion Med and seems like there is no choice but to apply for new policy and do a medical transfer. Am I right?

Problem now is that my agent don't want me to surrender the old PruValue Med policy cause he would lose his commission for the remaining years even though I will be buying a new policy from him. He claimed that he will not be paid commission for the new policy. Is this true? How can I deal with it?
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There is no way to go about this because its known as replacement of policy.
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post Dec 25 2019, 12:00 AM

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post Dec 25 2019, 12:34 AM

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QUOTE(pmaxv @ Dec 25 2019, 12:00 AM)
So what is the consequence of ROP? Does it mean he wouldn't get commission from old policy, or both old and new policy, or just the upgraded portion of new policy?
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If it's a new policy then he will get 0 on the new policy

The old policy will also get 0 if its cancelled since you're no longer paying for it.

You don't get ROP if it's an upgraded on the existing same policy.


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post Dec 25 2019, 12:50 AM

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post Dec 25 2019, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(coca^cola @ Dec 23 2019, 02:35 AM)
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hi coca^cola, the benefits above seems good. so long you and your agent discussed your needs, then the plan that suits you is considered as a good plan already.

QUOTE(afkwan @ Dec 23 2019, 05:29 PM)
Good day sifus

Is it true insurance cost increase by Jan 2020? For buying new plan
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hi afkwan, insurance cost will increase depends on various factors. most that we heard of is medical cost increases that causes the medical insurance cost increases too. By 1 Jan 2020, BNM want all insurance companies to standardize their cash value projection based on 2% and 5% (irregardless of any fund choices). This is also to make sure the projection is at a conservative rate.

QUOTE(chichichi @ Dec 24 2019, 05:29 PM)
Hello, asking for a friend:

40 y.o male with 2 kids age 8 and 11
looking for family plan
medical card,
rider for disability/accident/death
monthly income 10k
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Also would like to ask about disclosure..

what if you are a on and off smoker. say the time u signed up the policy, u didnt smoke. but then after you do. the you stop. then you start again. do you have to notify your agent?
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hi chichichi, are you looking for a quote on behalf of your friend? if on and off smoker, normally i will take it as a smoker. else, company will treat that as non-disclosure and future claims might have issue due to that.

QUOTE(pmaxv @ Dec 24 2019, 07:27 PM)
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hi pmaxv, what you can do is purchase a new policy with PruMillion med. for the current one you are holding, just stop payment will do.
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post Dec 25 2019, 07:19 PM

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post Dec 25 2019, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(pmaxv @ Dec 25 2019, 07:19 PM)
So stopping payment and let the current policy run itself for one year will not trigger ROP?
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For Prudential I'm not sure though. For GE, i know it won't. Or you can do something like getting only the PruMillion med rider on the new plan. Your current one prioritizes on life insurance+CI. smile.gif
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post Dec 26 2019, 03:10 PM

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HI,

Policy A : Annual 3216.72
Sum assured: 45K
Critical 45K
Aciguard: 45K
Pru health: 200 for room/board

Policy B: annual 1649.88
sum assured 50K
Accident medical reimbursement: 5k
Critical : 50K
Hospital benefit : 100 per day
diability provider: 5k

question: Am im overpaying for lesser coverage?
will it be better if i surrender both policies for better one, say pru weath plus?

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post Dec 26 2019, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(bubs66 @ Dec 26 2019, 03:10 PM)
HI,

Policy A : Annual 3216.72
Sum assured: 45K
Critical 45K
Aciguard: 45K
Pru health: 200 for room/board

Policy B:  annual 1649.88
sum assured 50K
Accident medical reimbursement: 5k
Critical : 50K
Hospital benefit : 100 per day
diability provider: 5k

question: Am im overpaying for lesser coverage?
will it be better if i surrender both policies for better one, say pru weath plus?
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Hi,

Can't comment much without understanding your own financial background. Probably you would like to talk more about yourself and what you aim to get for yourself ?
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post Dec 26 2019, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Dec 26 2019, 03:20 PM)
Hi,

Can't comment much without understanding your own financial background. Probably you would like to talk more about yourself and what you aim to get for yourself ?
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single, 40. managerial position. Liability: house and car. when I got those policies, I only care of about no need so more coverage for death. but I did not considered about TPD. do I need to increased my life policy? I am also planning to top up for medical coverage ,maybe as for new policy
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post Dec 26 2019, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(bubs66 @ Dec 26 2019, 03:49 PM)
single, 40. managerial position. Liability: house and car. when I got those policies, I only care of about no need so more coverage for death. but I did not considered about TPD. do I need to increased my life policy? I am also planning to top up for medical coverage ,maybe as for new policy
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What I normally plan for my clients who are single is that ,they need insurance to take care themselves in the event of disability, accident or critical illness in which you will have enough payout from insurance to last you for atleast 5 - 10 years of your annual income while you're unable to work for a period of time.

From the look of it, it seems to me you may be under-insured. Not on the question of over-paying or not.

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post Dec 26 2019, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(lifebalance @ Dec 26 2019, 03:52 PM)
What I normally plan for my clients who are single is that ,they need insurance to take care themselves in the event of disability, accident or critical illness in which you will have enough payout from insurance to last you for atleast 5 - 10 years of your annual income while you're unable to work for a period of time.

From the look of it, it seems to me you may be under-insured. Not on the question of over-paying or not.

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question is how much is enough? it could be ( most likely) 10 years down the road , it wont be enough anymore.
We cant be continuously pumping in money in at higher premium based on next birthday age.

Last policy bought in year 2011.

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