wat does not make sense is future hiro stab sylar b4 n cant kill sylar cos sylar got regen. but claire was alive all along. wtf.................

Very 'cool' power eh? Sites like this usually talks in codes, so he might be something like Iceman. Hehe~

This post has been edited by emino: Jun 18 2007, 05:57 PM

ok i'll try to make it simple

1.Future
- sylar killed claire n has her powers
- hiro couldn't kill sylar coz sylar can regenerate
- hiro decides to change the outcome but constructing the string theory
- hiro thinks if claire is saved then he will kill sylar n the bomb won't happen
- hiro determines the rite moment to time travel back to he past

2.Present
- future hiro freezes time n approaches peter
- he tells peter to save the cheerleader -> "Save The Cheerleader, Save The World"
- peter goes on a mission to save the cheerleader
- peter saves the cheerleader n sylar doesn't get her power
- present hiro n ando time travel to the future

3.New Altered Future
- sylar didn't kill claire (yet) n he's thought dead causing the explosion
- present hiro in turn reveals to his future self that their present day claire was rescued and sylar got caught, but Sylar himself wasn't killed yet
- future hiro and ando enroll the aid of future peter n they break into the building present hiro is captured in
- sylar killed nathan, DL & Candice
- sylar is now pretending to be nathan
- future hiro is confused wit present hiro's appearence
- the bomb still went on n little changed despite future hiro's hard efforts
- peter was the bomb
- sylar kills claire
- sylar fights peter, future hiro dies, hiro n ando return to present confident to stop sylar

This post has been edited by cajun2de: Jun 18 2007, 06:41 PM

den wat u mean is last week episode on astro was, hiro n ando go to the new altered future?

how come da new altered future hiro said he stab sylar n sylar regen?

suppose is new altered future, sylar didnt kill claire until 5 years after explotion, so hiro shud hav killed him since he stab sylar around the explosion time.

me very blur cos only follow astro n miss some episode.......

okeh my turn

just consider the whole series is about to alter what had happened in the past....okeh


dun make me speak spanish

This post has been edited by how to save a life: Jun 18 2007, 07:13 PM

here is the hole. see in the alt future hiro claims he stabbed sylar, but sylar regenerated, so he cant save the world. but this was contradicted later when clarie didnt die, so sylar cannot regenerate as he doesnt have the power. which in turn allows hiro to stab him and save the world. so in a whole the alt future cannot happen, as clarie is saved

Stabbed, but it doesnt mean he die.
Sure, he regenerated in the alternate future, but in case he dint regenerate, can you be sure he'll die? Unless Hiro cuts off his head, we can assume that he survived, like how he survived during the ending (goes into the underground tunnel).

no in that episode, hiro said he regenerated.

Yes, that is ALTERNATE FUTURE Hero says he regenarated. We must remember, that Hiro came from the timeline where Claire is killed. Not from the timeline where Claire is saved. When Claire is saved, the future are re-written.

Man, you need to play some time-travelling/alternate reality computer games.

you dont get it dont you.

in the alt future

we learn that

a)
-hiro cant kill sylar because he can regenerate
-means that the cheerleader wassnt saved
-boom~!

BUT,later we know that (still in the alt future, same timeline)

b)
-clarie wassnt killed in the alternate future, shes presumed dead
-so the previous claim that slyar can regenerate is wrong
- which means hiro can kill sylar and the world can be saved

so yes future is rewritten which means that the events of a) cannot happen. so the whole alt future should not exist at all. thats the hole...

Yes. The whole 'a future' no longer exists. But it was replaced with the new 'b future'. So the 'b future' might looks similar to the 'a future' with one exception, Claire wasnt kill.

You noticed that the event Sylar regenerated came from the 'a future'. Hiro from the 'a future' only has knowledge from HIS future, and he stands by his claim that Sylar regenerated. But he dint know what happen when Hiro in the b future stabbed Sylar, and whether Sylar died from that stab attack. So Sylar in the 'b future' survived the stab attack since he appears at the end of that future, disguised as Nathan.

And The different is only one thing, Claire Bennet. So the future should stay the same, the event after Sylar was stabbed should still happen as in the 'a future', but with a few things differ than it. Its not like they killed around 10000 people in the past to completely override the future with new path.

This post has been edited by emino: Jun 18 2007, 08:24 PM

yes sylar was stabbed and he regen( in the future)

then hiro freeze the time and met p.u.s.s.y peter and told him to save claire....

after claire was saved....automatically sylar don't have that power riiiiggghhhttttt!!!

which means...the future twisted twice........correct me if i'm wrong

short and simple...easy to understand

This post has been edited by how to save a life: Jun 18 2007, 08:35 PM

you are still getting it wrong, a) and b) are in the same timeline. i dont remember seeing a restart in that episode that suggests another alternate future where sylar didnt die but cant regenerate. what we have was a future thats alternate that sylar can regenerate but clarie didnt die? we we look back

alt future episode

-sylar can regenerate, we know that from hiro (!)

-in this we also konw that in order for sylar to regenerate the clarie died

-world cant be saved

but in that same time line same future (we cant insert another alternate future here where sylar didnt die but clarie was saved)

- the episode takes a turn and we konw that clarie was saved

- this would mean that (!) cannot happen, as sylar cannot regenerate

- as clarie was saved, we know that the world is also saved as its predicted.

the situation where sylar didnt die and cant regenerate wassnt presented to us in the episode and cannot happen as its predicted that as long clarie didnt die the world is saved and sylar will die.

Gah... Too tired to argue anymore. Better just keep quiet here and play with my Pokemon Pearl .

nooooooooooo........................i seek to understand

sigh u guys can have which ever way u wanted it to be

Let me try to clear things up with my Heroes skill! (i think, lol)

you are still getting it wrong, a) and b) are in the same timeline. i dont remember seeing a restart in that episode that suggests another alternate future where sylar didnt die but cant regenerate. what we have was a future thats alternate that sylar can regenerate but clarie didnt die? we we look back

We saw another timeline, which is what happened AFTER the cheerleader was saved.
It is already a different timeline altogether. If Claire was killed, then Sylar would have dominated everything, but Claire was not killed, so Sylar had to use Nathan to lure Claire in order to get her regenerating powers. (just a random estimation lol)

but in that same time line same future (we cant insert another alternate future here where sylar didnt die but clarie was saved)

- the episode takes a turn and we konw that clarie was saved

- this would mean that (!) cannot happen, as sylar cannot regenerate

- as clarie was saved, we know that the world is also saved as its predicted.

- Yeah, Claire was saved, thus altering the time line
- Sylar cannot regenerate, yeah, but remember that she was killed after "Nathan" killed her, making Sylar regenerate-able
- The world was still not saved, Sylar isn't dead. Save the cheerleader, save the world concept is not clear.

But IMO, indeed there IS a twist. Because it was only mentioned that Claire was only to be saved, but not to kill Sylar at all.

o_o

Making the whole story... weird?

Because IF Past Hiro never did teleported, I don't think he would know that Sylar should be killed.

Gawd, I gotta rewatch episode 1-23 all over again, lol.

It's up to you to ignore my statement, i'm just stating what I am thinking about the Claire incident.

sleepy sleepy sleepy

This post has been edited by how to save a life: Jun 19 2007, 01:38 AM

me too.... i m still blur... i guess i have to get the full episode to watch 1st.