Value for money, quality finished

Good buy
BBB

U buy and let us know got improvement or not.


It is not the problem of the car manufacturer, more into dealer - Naza issue on tackling after sales service.

My friend bought his 208 Tebu version, car cannot start and don't know what issue, tow into dealer workshop at PJ, diagnose 7 days and end up replacement of battery only, drive another 2 weeks then same problem occur, tow back to workshop again, the mechanic there blur blur don't know what is the root issue. What kind of mechanic they are hiring

In the end have to rely on other workshop specialist to diagnose, within 1 day problem solve. Mind u the car is on the first year on the road. It just show how bad Naza train their staff.

My circle of friend only 2 bought Pijot car, both of them facing same issue on dealer after sales service. TBH Pijot should change the dealership lah, Naza is just way too horrible.

This post has been edited by yhtan: Oct 25 2018, 02:49 PM

u buy first see how

Make sure you buy a Myvi as a backup car.

LOL

This one I can understand the frustration and agree. Nasim really need to step up because while on the manufacturing side has stepped up, the dealership still got improvements to make.

that's why u can't blame consumer on it, many of them are not car savvy type of person and rely on dealer workship to solve the problem.

Why they wanna spend 200k for Pijot, might as well top-up a bit and go for conti (BMW, Mercedes etc) for free service and warranty for 5 years.

My friend does modification and servicing on conti car and they are reluctant to do new car due to warranty issue, anything they touch later warranty cannot claim, customer will come back and blame him for it.

Citroen ds range ok mou, especially the crossback 3 and 5

I'm not blaming the consumer, I can understand and emphatise actually. But at the same time I am clearing our misconceptions on where the blame should be placed.
Peugeot rightly gotten what they deserved because of the debacle of the 308 Turbo T9 pre-facelift, but since then they have been upping their efforts tremendously in order to not only learning from their mistakes to improve future models, they also undertook a huge recall effort as well as to spend more on extending warranties for their older cars. I think the efforts warrants some applaud, considering other manufacturers would just ignore the problem (I'm looking at you Ford).

On why they want to spend 200k for Peugeot vs other Contis? Personal perference. Each to their own, but value for money wise in terms of driving engagement and fun, I don't think you can find anything more fun for a 200k car than this. But if you say practicality? I'll recommend elsewhere.

On warranty issue, you'll need to emphatise with the manufacturers. They spend a lot of money when they replace a part under warranty, if the owner had it serviced outside and used non approved lubricants and then became a causing factor to a breakdown, it wouldn't be fair for the manufacturer to foot the bill when the fault lies with the non approved workshop right? Unlike engines of the past with low tolerances, low emission standards, and low efficiency, the newer more tightly tuned engines have less margin of error. A 2.0L engine churning out 120bhp with FC of 10L/100km made in 1998 will endure not being serviced regularly or using non approved lubricants as opposed to a 1.6L turbocharged engine churning out 270bhp with FC of 8.1L/100km.

No matter what you guys say... there will always be people who mati mati will buy Piujot. They wont listen to you no matter how many valid points you tell them about how teruk this car is..... BUT they will STILL ask you what you think about Piujot! Hahaha.....really saw high people.

nope nope nope godzilla jpg

i want myvi gti !!!!

this +999, 1.6L pushing out 270hp is just too much, the strain on the turbo n engine will be very high, very likely those things will spoil after some time driving this car

In terms of engineering,
Continental cars are not made to last over 5years.
Many electronic parts, sensors, even plastic parts will start to wear & crack under our hot weather. (Even US insurance reports came out stating European cars have higher maintenance than japanese cars)

German manufacturers have started their "planned obsolescence", this period is about 5years where after 5years many things will fail because lifespan is there. See how many BMW get dumped right after warranty period ??
Those 20+ year old Merc has higher reliability than newer ones. Cuz they sell luxury than reliability

Japanese cars sell reliability and longer lifespan. German sells luxury and fun to drive cars.


In terms of regulations
1. At first world countries like USA, some car manufacturers will get class action suit if their cars have problems like Peugeot or VW DSG issue will get sued by buyers.

2. The other law is called lemon law, if your car frequently have consistent problems that cannot be fixed, then they have to buy back your unit.

3. Spare parts law means manufacturers have to make their parts available after warranty period for you to repair it. Diagnostic tools must be readily available outside too. In essense, no monopoly over parts, diagnostic

On safety part I think consumers should push government to force manufacturers to put in more safety features.
It's not Japanese cars are not safe, it's the government ruling that doesn't make them compulsory to follow certain standards.
Therefore those standards became a premium features rather than basic requirements. If compared same price range of course Japanese car give same features as continental cars

No point try to defend the brand of the car you are driving, press them back to make them do better. Brand loyalty doesn't do consumers any good.

No matter what the sales agent try to sugar coat it, that's the truth.
Accidents DATA can be found on insurance data especially on US.

This post has been edited by AllnGap: Oct 25 2018, 06:13 PM

6 seconds of thrill

6 months of workshop repair

306 GTI-6 > all

This post has been edited by RalphRatedR: Oct 25 2018, 08:22 PM

french and italian cars always very nice to look at, very attractive to me

imagine the turbo lag

Modern turbo engines have little (or probably don't have) turbo lag

this car buy how long will sit in workshop

you still stuck in zaman evo 6 ? kepish kepish turbo and turbo timer
now modern turbo already