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post Oct 25 2018, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Oct 25 2018, 11:21 AM)
As you can see now I drive lexus .
You should do the same bro.

Happy life, no worries, no need monitor the temperature guage all the time,  just service and maintains the car only.
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post Oct 25 2018, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 11:26 AM)
Electronics also have improved, but you know why many European cars have sensor problems right? Because they cram a lot of technology into their car due to safety & emission regulation in Europe. Some of these sensors die prematurely, so they need occasional replacement. But in return you have a car that is built as a result of stingent emission and safety regulation.

On the other hand, Japanese regulation are not as strict. Even more so Japanese cars that are sold in 3rd world countries, they remove all the sensors and cut on safety features. That is why you get the perception that Jap cars are more "reliable" and "less problematic". You have less things to spoil. Great, if you don't get into an accident. If you do, I'd take my chances being in an accident inside an European car than a Japanese car.

Japanese cars with more sensors and stuff, like the newer Civic, you'll tend to find that it is getting their fair share of complaints now. 1) because they got more sensors (finally caught up with Europe), 2) because they are very new in low pressure turbo engines. On the flip side, newer European cars finally got many of their troubles ironed out, and are becoming more stable now
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post Oct 25 2018, 11:31 AM

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Just bring in the Hyundai i30N lah...
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post Oct 25 2018, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Oct 25 2018, 11:29 AM)
i go for the best of both worlds - Koreans
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The newer koreans are good, can't deny that. Really value for money, especially Kia.
But in terms of driving and handling pleasure, it would be hard to beat the europeans. That said, not everyone needs a good handling car. As long as it is built safe =D

QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Oct 25 2018, 11:30 AM)
Hello Mr Peugeot sales man.
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I'm not a salesman, I'm an owner. Already driven 120k on my car. Definitely have minor problems, and there was a recall too to replace few auxilary components, but I never had engine issues.
Sensors will come and go, as mentioned above. But what I get in return is a freaking good drive, and a peace of mind that I'm inside a car that is developed to the most stringent safety requirements in europe.
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post Oct 25 2018, 11:35 AM

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wait until you see schedule maintenance price for peugeot. minor maintenance (oil,filter) also cost almost 1k.
follow my friend to 10k service of her peugeot 408. look at the price and think wtf all so expensive.
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post Oct 25 2018, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(TAN WENG @ Oct 25 2018, 11:01 AM)
my friend bought 5008 peugeot so far ok no problem bring 6 passenger to genting  car alrdy half year
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post Oct 25 2018, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(sle7in @ Oct 25 2018, 11:35 AM)
wait until you see schedule maintenance price for peugeot. minor maintenance (oil,filter) also cost almost 1k.
follow my friend to 10k service of her peugeot 408. look at the price and think wtf all so expensive.
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Yes this is true, cost of maintenance is higher, usually for most continentals they are so. And they are very anal with you doing the maintenance as per schedule if not void warranty.
Engine and internals are designed to higher tolerance, require more maintenance. Plus with lower purchasing volume many importers cannot purchase in huge volume of spare parts, unlike the more established Japanese makes in Malaysia. This affects to cost as well as availability. Which is why sometimes it takes a while for stock to arrive. Issue of supply vs demand.

If cannot afford the cost of running, better to stick with local car or entry level Japanese models.
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post Oct 25 2018, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 11:33 AM)
The newer koreans are good, can't deny that. Really value for money, especially Kia.
But in terms of driving and handling pleasure, it would be hard to beat the europeans. That said, not everyone needs a good handling car. As long as it is built safe =D
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the latest models are already very close to europeans in terms to ride and handling. just go test drive an optima gt, if you can find a test drive unit lol

i personally drive a picanto, and I've driven a Polo before, not much difference in ride and handling, but maybe the latest gen on MQB platform will be better

Hyundai / Kia have a few ex European big names with them now - peter schreyer and albert biermann (ex BMW M division chief)


then there's the i30n, which many reviews regard it as the best hot hatch to replace the GTI
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post Oct 25 2018, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 10:56 AM)
RM199,888
It's the cheapest car with 270hp in the market I believe
It drove like a beast
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270hp only good if it’s not in workshop lel
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post Oct 25 2018, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 11:39 AM)
Yes this is true, cost of maintenance is higher, usually for most continentals they are so. And they are very anal with you doing the maintenance as per schedule if not void warranty.
Engine and internals are designed to higher tolerance, require more maintenance. Plus with lower purchasing volume many importers cannot purchase in huge volume of spare parts, unlike the more established Japanese makes in Malaysia. This affects to cost as well as availability. Which is why sometimes it takes a while for stock to arrive. Issue of supply vs demand.

If cannot afford the cost of running, better to stick with local car or entry level Japanese models.
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yup. Minor maintenance also cost the same as major maintenance of my Civic at Honda SC, not outside workshop.
So nope. Better stick with Japs car. More reliable, less expensive.
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 11:39 AM)
Yes this is true, cost of maintenance is higher, usually for most continentals they are so. And they are very anal with you doing the maintenance as per schedule if not void warranty.
Engine and internals are designed to higher tolerance, require more maintenance. Plus with lower purchasing volume many importers cannot purchase in huge volume of spare parts, unlike the more established Japanese makes in Malaysia. This affects to cost as well as availability. Which is why sometimes it takes a while for stock to arrive. Issue of supply vs demand.

If cannot afford the cost of running, better to stick with local car or entry level Japanese models.
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Oct 25 2018, 11:39 AM)
the latest models are already very close to europeans in terms to ride and handling. just go test drive an optima gt, if you can find a test drive unit lol

i personally drive a picanto, and I've driven a Polo before, not much difference in ride and handling, but maybe the latest gen on MQB platform will be better

Hyundai / Kia have a few ex European big names with them now - peter schreyer and albert biermann (ex BMW M division chief)
then there's the i30n, which many reviews regard it as the best hot hatch to replace the GTI
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Yes perhaps the newer and higher end models, as they are now using european designers and engineers in design. Entry level ones, when compared apple to apple still you will see some noticable gap.
Not dissing the Koreans because I think they have innovated way more than the complacent Japanese carmakers in the past 10 years. The Japs was happy with milking the world with their car which was great 20 years ago, but then they slacked. With the exception of Mazda, they are the only Japanese carmaker I'd consider buying. Great handling, good active safety features even 5 years ago (when Mazda Toyota Nissan didn't even bother).

I30n is an outlier. Really good car. They are definitely catching up.
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century sprint in 6 seconds, masuk SC for 6 months afterward
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QUOTE(sle7in @ Oct 25 2018, 11:42 AM)
yup. Minor maintenance also cost the same as major maintenance of my Civic at Honda SC, not outside workshop.
So nope. Better stick with Japs car. More reliable, less expensive.
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More reliable, less expensive no doubt.
But if my loved one is fated to be in an accident bang by another car, I'll rather her be inside a continental car than a japanese car. Just ask those in workshop that has dismantled these cars down to their chassis and compared their designs and metal used.

Sometimes the value you get from a conti only comes when you don't want it to, such as when it protects you whilst in an accident.
For other cars, it may be too late to regret. Just ask many conti car owners who survived in an accident whilst being in their car. Conlanfirm they'll stick to being conti owners for life, even if they had to deal with low reliability or more expensive maintenance.
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post Oct 25 2018, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Oct 25 2018, 11:46 AM)
century sprint in 6 seconds, masuk SC for 6 months afterward
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 11:48 AM)
More reliable, less expensive no doubt.
But if my loved one is fated to be in an accident bang by another car, I'll rather her be inside a continental car than a japanese car. Just ask those in workshop that has dismantled these cars down to their chassis and compared their designs and metal used.

Sometimes the value you get from a conti only comes when you don't want it to, such as when it protects you whilst in an accident.
For other cars, it may be too late to regret. Just ask many conti car owners who survived in an accident whilst being in their car. Conlanfirm they'll stick to being conti owners for life, even if they had to deal with low reliability or more expensive maintenance.
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Japanese car got so bad or not ?

You talk like as if Japun is as fragile as Viva.
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QUOTE(dman @ Oct 25 2018, 11:02 AM)
The supiak thing is the steering positioning blocking the gauges meter. Or probably stupiak gauges meter in the wrong position. lol

Lotsa reviewer complaining the unseen gauges meter.

The aircon control is on the infotainment touch screen which very dangerous to control while driving.

Other than that, it looks not bad just the shape too contemporary.
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i-cockpit concept is to look at the gauge above the steering
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QUOTE(daijoubu @ Oct 25 2018, 11:48 AM)
More reliable, less expensive no doubt.
But if my loved one is fated to be in an accident bang by another car, I'll rather her be inside a continental car than a japanese car. Just ask those in workshop that has dismantled these cars down to their chassis and compared their designs and metal used.

Sometimes the value you get from a conti only comes when you don't want it to, such as when it protects you whilst in an accident.
For other cars, it may be too late to regret. Just ask many conti car owners who survived in an accident whilst being in their car. Conlanfirm they'll stick to being conti owners for life, even if they had to deal with low reliability or more expensive maintenance.
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Safety level the newer Jap cars are good too.

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this is a poor man's civic R, those who cant afford 320k civic R can go for this one, manual also

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