QUOTE(hazremi @ Jun 10 2007, 08:33 AM)
yesterday i saw 2 kancil collided at the same place two myvi were collided,exactly the same,quite bad the yesterday accident.
when will they ever learn that cyberjaya's roads are not safe for speeding?Myvi accident, speeding
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Jun 10 2007, 11:58 AM
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Jun 10 2007, 12:36 PM
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Jun 10 2007, 12:50 PM
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QUOTE(Azuma-kun @ Jun 7 2007, 12:53 AM) as per jeremy Clarkson; speed does not kill, it is the sudden stop that will Added on June 10, 2007, 12:51 pm QUOTE(seanlimys @ Jun 10 2007, 08:46 AM) This post has been edited by cre8tif: Jun 10 2007, 12:51 PM |
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Jun 10 2007, 03:50 PM
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Jun 10 2007, 04:24 PM
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bashing attempt thwarted!
allow me. the front of cars are usually made softer than the rest of the car. based on the physics formula: F=(mv-mu)/t the longer the impact time, the less the momentum acting on the object. so, by making crumple zones, the time of impact will be lengthened, and since F is inverse proportional to t, the overall force acting on the car will be reduced. This post has been edited by nerd: Jun 10 2007, 04:25 PM |
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Jun 10 2007, 06:26 PM
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QUOTE(nerd @ Jun 10 2007, 04:24 PM) bashing attempt thwarted! u need to put it on layman term so that people will understand....allow me. the front of cars are usually made softer than the rest of the car. based on the physics formula: F=(mv-mu)/t the longer the impact time, the less the momentum acting on the object. so, by making crumple zones, the time of impact will be lengthened, and since F is inverse proportional to t, the overall force acting on the car will be reduced. |
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Jun 10 2007, 10:25 PM
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he means the force/impact is inversely proportianol to the time it takes so in turn if the force is applied for a longer time, the impact will be less as it decreases wif time...rite?
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Jun 10 2007, 11:12 PM
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impulse = change of momentum per time
F = ^m / t loosely translated, the change in velocity (c.o.momentum) is the same since it is (velocity at impact -> decelerating to 0), but we can vary the time taken for the deceleration (t)..by making the c.o.m divided by a larger time (t) value, the force (F) experienced by passengers in the car is lessened. one effective way of increasing t value is to make sure there's a crumple zone. |
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Jun 10 2007, 11:27 PM
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Jun 11 2007, 12:51 AM
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I LOL'ed so hard.
What part of 'safety' do these drivers not understand? |
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Jun 11 2007, 01:24 AM
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if crumple zones are so important then why are volvos are made like a brick
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Jun 11 2007, 01:30 AM
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Jun 11 2007, 10:26 AM
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correction: older volvos are made like a brick.
last time there were no research done on crumple zones, so the carmakers decided to make the cars as stiff as possible. while this made the car 'safer' so to speak, but the driver will suffer more in an accident, as the impact is not dissipated efficiently. so, you want your car to be saved or yourself to be saved? |
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Jun 11 2007, 10:35 AM
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QUOTE(nerd @ Jun 11 2007, 10:26 AM) correction: older volvos are made like a brick. You mean last time Volvo has been touted as one of the safest cars around, they're actually the worst?!last time there were no research done on crumple zones, so the carmakers decided to make the cars as stiff as possible. while this made the car 'safer' so to speak, but the driver will suffer more in an accident, as the impact is not dissipated efficiently. so, you want your car to be saved or yourself to be saved? |
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Jun 11 2007, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE(cre8tif @ Jun 10 2007, 12:50 PM) as per jeremy Clarkson; speed does not kill, it is the sudden stop that will Added on June 10, 2007, 12:51 pm QUOTE(haze @ Jun 11 2007, 01:24 AM) They still look like a brick today but then, most people find Volvos a class of its own, my uncle still drive a Volvo till today. It beats me why Volvo and not other cars like Audi, VW, Skoda, BMW, Benz, etc. |
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Jun 11 2007, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(Dannyl @ Jun 11 2007, 10:35 AM) You mean last time Volvo has been touted as one of the safest cars around, they're actually the worst?! definitely not last time there were NO crumple zones, and cars were built like cans, while Volvos were more stiff and rigid. doesn't that make Volvo one of the safest? This post has been edited by nerd: Jun 11 2007, 11:38 AM |
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Jun 11 2007, 11:43 AM
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lol. how bout compare MyVi with Savy? which one safer to driver?
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Jun 11 2007, 11:48 AM
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Jun 11 2007, 11:48 AM
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both are safe if driven properly instead of recklessly
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