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westlife
post Jan 1 2020, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jan 1 2020, 03:01 PM)
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https://lifehacker.com/do-i-need-a-1080p-di...hone-1450793273 - 2013

Seems, the problem bottle-neck in video-rendering on high-end phones lies in their not-needed or wasteful high resolution displays of more than 1080p/UHD which over-tax the batteries and processors.
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I think ur understanding is not correct at all.

Those articles u post are talking about whether higher resolution is needed on a phone.

unless u have a phone that can change resolution like Samsung flagship phone. Else it does not save battery.

For example, ur phone is 1080p, even u run a 1080p or 480p video the resolution of the phone still stays at 1080p. The 480p will just be ‘upscaled’ to fix the screen. So it does not have the battery saving as what u claimed.
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post Jan 1 2020, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(nickchk89 @ Jan 1 2020, 03:13 PM)
u pull an article on 2013? what are we? stone age people?

do i need 1080p on smartphone? hell yeah i need.

480p vs 720p vs 1080p, I'll take 720/1080p anytime, seriously u need to upgrade ur so call 6" phone(or whatever that is)

anyway, this thread already derail too much already, let's just stick to umobile related topic.
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QUOTE(westlife @ Jan 1 2020, 03:14 PM)
I think ur understanding is not correct at all.

Those articles u post are talking about whether higher resolution is needed on a phone.

unless u have a phone that can change resolution like Samsung flagship phone. Else it does not save battery.

For example, ur phone is 1080p, even u run a 1080p or 480p video the resolution of the phone still stays at 1080p. The 480p will just be ‘upscaled’ to fix the screen. So it does not have the battery saving as what u claimed.
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  .Even though most Android devices today come with good resolution and pixel density, sometimes you may need to change resolution of your display for various reasons.

Gaming is the most common reason. Sometimes you may want to play a game, but it’s putting strain on your processor and causing your game to lag. You could then reduce the resolution or pixel density of your display to make it easier on your processor, allowing your game to work flawlessly on your device.

Plus its been found that reducing resolution or pixel density could improve your battery life as well since most of your device’s battery consumption is caused by the display.
https://joyofandroid.com/change-screen-resolution/ - 2018
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post Jan 1 2020, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(westlife @ Jan 1 2020, 03:14 PM)
I think ur understanding is not correct at all.

Those articles u post are talking about whether higher resolution is needed on a phone.

unless u have a phone that can change resolution like Samsung flagship phone. Else it does not save battery.

For example, ur phone is 1080p, even u run a 1080p or 480p video the resolution of the phone still stays at 1080p. The 480p will just be ‘upscaled’ to fix the screen. So it does not have the battery saving as what u claimed.
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i think we need to stop talking with this guy

he thinks 480p is good enough for him and that fine, his opinion, maybe he got a iPhone 4 with 480p, who knows?

for rest of us , we can(maybe our eyes better) see that 480p should not be the standard for our video consumption, and with 5G coming in, umobile should give us 720p or just 3-4mbps for video(not like it'll be any different from 5mbps dl that they already give)

however, I think gx50 is perfectly fine for the price, but i hope the 5mbps limit should be apply for all apps and video
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post Jan 1 2020, 03:56 PM

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unlimited video-onz capped to 1.5mbps. should be good for up-to 720p video. dont like it then dont use u-mobile.

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post Jan 1 2020, 04:06 PM

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QUOTE(fat16 @ Jan 1 2020, 03:56 PM)
unlimited video-onz capped to 1.5mbps. should be good for up-to 720p video. dont like it then dont use u-mobile.
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can video onz 1.5mbps stream 720p without buffer?
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post Jan 1 2020, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(nickchk89 @ Jan 1 2020, 03:13 PM)
u pull an article on 2013? what are we? stone age people?

do i need 1080p on smartphone? hell yeah i need.

480p vs 720p vs 1080p, I'll take 720/1080p anytime, seriously u need to upgrade ur so call 6" phone(or whatever that is)

anyway, this thread already derail too much already, let's just stick to umobile related topic.
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This discussion about video resolution given by UMobile "unlimited" GX30/50 plan and phone's display resolution is related to this UMobile topic since you are complaining about UMobile limiting video-streaming to SD/480p/1Mbps. Users who understand this issue can see that UMobile is fair since GX30/50 is an affordable or cheap 4G phone plan for "unlimited" data.

Expecting UMobile to give 1080p video-streaming for RM30/50 per month is unfair.

Like I said before, UMobile has to pay TM for backend HSBB Fiber Internet data for onward connection from its 4G cell towers.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Dec 31 2019, 09:18 PM)
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Because 480p is more than good enough for a 6" phone, which is what GX30/50 is for. 1080p is only needed for large screen TV up to 55" and computer monitors of about 21".


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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jan 1 2020, 04:12 PM)
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This discussion about video resolution given by UMobile "unlimited" GX30/50 plan and phone's display resolution is related to this UMobile topic since you are complaining about UMobile limiting video-streaming to SD/480p/1Mbps. Users who understand this issue can see that UMobile is fair since GX30/50 is an affordable or cheap 4G phone plan for "unlimited" data.

Expecting UMobile to give 1080p video-streaming for RM30/50 per month is unfair.

Like I said before, UMobile has to pay TM for backend HSBB Fiber Internet data for onward connection from its 4G cell towers.
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i was replying to ur idiotic statement (bolded)

i had clarify twice that gx50 is perfectly fine for its price
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post Jan 1 2020, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Dec 31 2019, 10:42 AM)
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UMobile prepaid GX30 at RM30 per month is a 4G phone plan that gives "unlimited" data at 3Mbps and 3GB of hotspot-sharing data per month = it should not be used with a 4G modem or a modded 4G modem and the Pdanet+ app to bypass the hotspot limit.

If using hotspot-sharing with other devices, I think not more than 1 device will be able to video-stream at SD/480p/1Mbps = the other devices can still share the 3Mbps bandwidth for reading news and/or updating/installing apps.
....... Note that mobile telcos have to pay TM for backend HSBB Fiber Internet data = mobile broadband Internet data is often expensive and/or limited.

You can also try downloading videos at 3Mbps as MP4 files to your phone and use the VLC app for playback later. A 1 hour video at 480p is about 500MB in size = takes about 30 minutes to download at 3Mbps, ie. 5000Mb/3Mbps = 1700 seconds = 1700/60 min = 30 min.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Dec 31 2019, 09:18 PM)
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Because 480p is more than good enough for a 6" phone, which is what GX30/50 is for. 1080p is only needed for large screen TV up to 55" and computer monitors of about 21".

If you want 1080p and 4k/2160p video-streaming, there are other more expensive options available, eg Digi 150 Infinite.
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QUOTE(nickchk89 @ Jan 1 2020, 04:17 PM)
i was replying to ur idiotic statement (bolded)

i had clarify twice that gx50 is perfectly fine for its price
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My second statement above was referring to the video-streaming resolution limit of SD/480p/1Mbps set by UMobile, and not referring to the device's display resolution which can today be at 4k/2160p for high-end phones.

480p video-streaming is more than good enough for 6" phones but not for 39" TV screens. 39" TV need at least 720p to1080p video-streaming, ie 480p video-streaming on a 39" TV is blurry. 55" and larger TV need 4k/2160p video-streaming, ie 1080p video-streaming is blurry.

For virtual reality headsets using phones, the phones need at least 1080p video-streaming because the eyes are very close to the 6" screen.
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post Jan 1 2020, 05:18 PM

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How can get offers from umobile by sms and email? So far i never get any offers from umobile marketing
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post Jan 1 2020, 05:32 PM

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u need to spend more to get marketing promo from them
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post Jan 1 2020, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(judehow @ Jan 1 2020, 05:18 PM)
How can get offers from umobile by sms and email?  So far i never get any offers from umobile  marketing
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What offers are you expecting from U Mobile? biggrin.gif
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post Jan 1 2020, 08:13 PM

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Last yr i did get upgrade from gx30 to gx50 with additional 10GB hotspot quatoa
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QUOTE(MNet @ Jan 1 2020, 05:32 PM)
u need to spend more to get marketing promo from them
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How?

QUOTE(joshhd @ Jan 1 2020, 06:28 PM)
What offers are you expecting from U Mobile?  biggrin.gif
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No advance payment for those from prepaid umobile swtich to postpaid plan with bundle phone and collect point when paying bills, reload and buying add ons in exchange use points redeem petrol vouchers and food n drinks
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QUOTE(MNet @ Jan 1 2020, 08:13 PM)
Last yr i did get upgrade from gx30 to gx50 with additional 10GB hotspot quatoa
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Still got the offer? How you get it? Thanks
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QUOTE(nickchk89 @ Jan 1 2020, 04:06 PM)
can video onz 1.5mbps stream 720p without buffer?
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Based on the recommended bandwidth required by YouTube itself, 1.5Mbps can never stream 720p. To stream 480p is not a problem though. This explains why u mobile video streaming is always limited to 480p.

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QUOTE(westlife @ Jan 2 2020, 12:34 AM)
Based on the recommended bandwidth required by YouTube itself, 1.5Mbps can never stream 720p. To stream 480p is not a problem though. This explains why u mobile video streaming is always limited to 480p.

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post Jan 2 2020, 08:00 AM

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Wah.! ....... 4 of my most recent posts here reported by someone. Wonder why I was reported.?

Seems, some people do not understand the difference between video-streaming resolution which may be limited by their mobile telco via bandwidth or download speed restriction(eg limited to SD/480p/1Mbps) and their mobile device's display or screen resolution(eg 4k/2160p displays/screens in high-end phones).

Eg Google Stadia's data-servers can give online gaming up to 4k/2160p and 60fps. This requires the users to have at least 35Mbps download speed Fiber Internet and both your game and computer device support 4k/2160p and 60fps.
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QUOTE(lurkingaround @ Jan 2 2020, 08:00 AM)
Wah.! ....... 4 of my most recent posts here reported by someone. Wonder why I was reported.?

Seems, some people do not understand the difference between video-streaming resolution which may be limited by their mobile telco via bandwidth or download speed restriction(eg limited to SD/480p/1Mbps) and their mobile device's display or screen resolution(eg 4k/2160p displays/screens in high-end phones).

Eg Google Stadia's data-servers can give online gaming up to 4k/2160p and 60fps. This requires the users to have at least 35Mbps download speed Fiber Internet and both your game and computer device support 4k/2160p and 60fps.
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Sorted.
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QUOTE(empire23 @ Jan 2 2020, 08:18 AM)
Sorted.
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Thank you.
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Early this morning I try to claim the gold ticket it come out ' sorry something is wrong try again ' I did NOT manage screen shot the error

sorry guys after try attempting it come this error in the picture. Anyone has this error? I hope I able claim the gold ticket and win a iPhone if can


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