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 Notebook Recommendation Thread v.31, Need To Buy Laptop... Please Come In

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freny2i
post Nov 8 2018, 05:54 PM

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Bos... How about asus vivobook s15 2018... Can upgrade ram ...


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ZM Fong
post Nov 8 2018, 06:04 PM

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QUOTE(fweting @ Nov 8 2018, 05:58 PM)
The thing is the specs don't write 60/120/144 hz refresh rate. Almost all wrote full HD IPS. What is that suppose to mean? Got gsync no gsync also no write
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Which model?
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post Nov 8 2018, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(freny2i @ Nov 8 2018, 05:54 PM)
Bos... How about asus vivobook s15 2018... Can upgrade ram ...
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S530 is it? Sounds decent but I still need more info on it. Can check my laptop list for more options
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post Nov 8 2018, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(fweting @ Nov 8 2018, 06:08 PM)
Can u intro me?

I survey Acer helios 300
Asus fx series
Dell g7
Illegear
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G7: 60Hz 45% NTSC IPS
Illegear which model?

Avoid FX504 and Helios 300 due to bad cooling:
Helios 300 i5 - 60Hz 45% NTSC IPS
Helios 300 i7 - 144Hz 72% NTSC IPS
Helios 300 17 i7 - 144Hz 72% NTSC IPS
FX504 - got many model, low end TN, low sRGB IPS, 120Hz TN
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post Nov 9 2018, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(fweting @ Nov 9 2018, 09:33 AM)
What does the percent in ntsc mean? And ntsc ips vs srgb ips which one better
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NTSC is basically colour coverage. More means more vibrant colours
sRGB is narrower, 90+% sRGB is about 70+% NTSC
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post Nov 9 2018, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(fweting @ Nov 9 2018, 11:12 AM)
So ntsc > srgb for same percentage?
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AdobeRGB>NTSC>sRGB
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post Nov 9 2018, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Nov 7 2018, 09:52 PM)
If you're not going for Asus and wanted 144Hz IPS:
Illegear Raven Elite (TongFang GK5CN67)
HP Omen 15-dc0126TX
Illegear Laguna
Lenovo Legion Y530 (customize)
Commandos Carbine 5 (Clevo N950TP6) - desktop CPU
Illegear Raven - USB C no DP

If you're fine with 120Hz TN:
MSI GP63 8RE
Level51 W15 Lite (Clevo N950TP6) - desktop CPU
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Thanks for the input. I am still having a headache to decide.
I may not need a high frequency display because I read that GTX 1060 may not fully utilise 144Hz.
But I prefer IPS (this means the last 2 models with TN are ruled out).

QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Nov 8 2018, 01:38 AM)
Onyx isn't in your budget for the 1060 model if I remembered correctly. Z7 doesn't offer high refresh rate panel upgrade.

Clevo and TongFang both have their pros and cons. Also depends on model

Using desktop CPU doesn't bring any bad thing since mobile BGA chips are actually binned worse. They will run hotter if they have the same specs with the desktop LGA ones. In fact 8th gen mobile chips already run hot. Moreover, the repair cost will be cheaper if the mobo goes wrong. Power adapter depends on specs
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I could stretch abit for Onyx and consider a lower than 144Hz panel Z7 (I couldn't find the refresh rate for Z7 display. Any idea?)

I read your LTT article. It seems that Asus GL504G-MES238T ranked highly within this range of specs? Not sure if I should risk the ASUS support matters.

So, you are saying that desktop CPU on a notebook maybe be a better choice? Maybe i7-8700 i7-8400 (equivalent to 8750H)?

The reason why I mentioned DP is because i have plans to connect to an external GSync IPS monitor. If DP is not the way to go, do you think I need TB3 (which means the price will go up) and/or USB-C instead of DP?

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post Nov 9 2018, 07:17 PM

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post Nov 9 2018, 08:34 PM

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QUOTE(toffy @ Nov 9 2018, 04:38 PM)
Thanks for the input. I am still having a headache to decide.
I may not need a high frequency display because I read that GTX 1060 may not fully utilise 144Hz.
But I prefer IPS (this means the last 2 models with TN are ruled out).
I could stretch abit for Onyx and consider a lower than 144Hz panel Z7 (I couldn't find the refresh rate for Z7 display. Any idea?)

I read your LTT article. It seems that Asus GL504G-MES238T ranked highly within this range of specs? Not sure if I should risk the ASUS support matters.

So, you are saying that desktop CPU on a notebook maybe be a better choice? Maybe i7-8700 i7-8400 (equivalent to 8750H)?

The reason why I mentioned DP is because i have plans to connect to an external GSync IPS monitor. If DP is not the way to go, do you think I need TB3 (which means the price will go up) and/or USB-C instead of DP?
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60+Hz gives you better gaming experience, even it's not utilized fully. Onyx has good build quality and good enough cooling, however it has some issues too like high fan noise. As I said above, Z7 only have 1 display option: 100% sRGB 60Hz IPS

If you want get Asus, you need to pray that you don't get a lemon

LGA>BGA. Always. Thickness will slightly increase though.

DP will do, no need TB3. Some USB C don't support display output
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post Nov 9 2018, 08:35 PM

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QUOTE(popice2u @ Nov 9 2018, 07:17 PM)
budget rm4k
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Provide more info pls
Any preference on weight, display size, display quality and battery life?
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post Nov 10 2018, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Nov 9 2018, 08:34 PM)
60+Hz gives you better gaming experience, even it's not utilized fully. Onyx has good build quality and good enough cooling, however it has some issues too like high fan noise. As I said above, Z7 only have 1 display option: 100% sRGB 60Hz IPS

If you want get Asus, you need to pray that you don't get a lemon

LGA>BGA. Always. Thickness will slightly increase though.

DP will do, no need TB3. Some USB C don't support display output
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Great input. Will consider your comments for Onyx and Z7.

Would 120Hz be good enough instead of 144hz which may be overkill for GTX 1060?

Ok, then i better don't risk getting an Asus haha.

Since LGA is better, that means try to get a desktop CPU. Based on my findings, desktop CPU under Illegear exceeds RM7. The one with desktop CPU within my price range of RM6k plus is Level51 W15-Lite. Any comments for this model?

Ya, it seems that TB3 uses USB-C as the port but it doesn't mean the reverse is true.

I just considered Dell G7 since the price is good and it is in your LTT post but then you are right the it has low sRGB and it is not using a full-fledged 1060 (instead it uses max Q).

This post has been edited by toffy: Nov 10 2018, 12:51 AM
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post Nov 10 2018, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(toffy @ Nov 10 2018, 12:50 AM)
Great input. Will consider your comments for Onyx and Z7.

Would 120Hz be good enough instead of 144hz which may be overkill for GTX 1060?

Ok, then i better don't risk getting an Asus haha.

Since LGA is better, that means try to get a desktop CPU. Based on my findings, desktop CPU under Illegear exceeds RM7. The one with desktop CPU within my price range of RM6k plus is Level51 W15-Lite. Any comments for this model?

Ya, it seems that TB3 uses USB-C as the port but it doesn't mean the reverse is true.

I just considered Dell G7 since the price is good and it is in your LTT post but then you are right the it has low sRGB and it is not using a full-fledged 1060 (instead it uses max Q).
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TBH you won't notice any difference between 120Hz and 144Hz, however you might notice a bit of ghosting in cheap 144Hz IPS panel

Illegear only sells Clevo P750, P775 and P870 which are high end models. N950TP6 with 1060 GPU can be bought from ArmoryX and Level51. This model is fine, no major flaws.

G7 has low sRGB IPS. But the 1060MQ isn't really a problem since you can tune it to a full 1060N via voltage frequency curve
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post Nov 10 2018, 01:28 PM

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Planning to buy a laptop on 11.11.

Budget: Below RM2500
no gaming,
merely surfing, downloading, something editing/converting video
preferable asus or lenovo
1TB storage
anti-glare screen
15" inches screen preferable, 14 inches is ok
weight is no a problem, seldom carry around, mostly laptop sit on the desk
have long lasting battery, preferable 4-5 hours on battery, longer better.
i7?

Thank you for any suggestion.
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post Nov 10 2018, 01:50 PM

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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Nov 10 2018, 08:09 AM)
TBH you won't notice any difference between 120Hz and 144Hz, however you might notice a bit of ghosting in cheap 144Hz IPS panel

Illegear only sells Clevo P750, P775 and P870 which are high end models. N950TP6 with 1060 GPU can be bought from ArmoryX and Level51. This model is fine, no major flaws.

G7 has low sRGB IPS. But the 1060MQ isn't really a problem since you can tune it to a full 1060N via voltage frequency curve
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For the models you listed, I hope none of them has cheap 144Hz IPS panel? Or it depends on luck?

Is low sRGB IPS a real noticeable problem? Dimmer screen and makes the display looks bad?
This can't be fixed right?

If I tune the voltage frequency curve (using Afterburner?), to convert back 1060MQ to full 1060N, will there be issues for overheating, spoiling the processor and voiding the warranty? I understand that MQ is just a factory-tuned of the exact same processor with lower energy consumption?
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post Nov 10 2018, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(toffy @ Nov 10 2018, 01:50 PM)
For the models you listed, I hope none of them has cheap 144Hz IPS panel? Or it depends on luck?

Is low sRGB IPS a real noticeable problem? Dimmer screen and makes the display looks bad?
This can't be fixed right?

If I tune the voltage frequency curve (using Afterburner?), to convert back 1060MQ to full 1060N, will there be issues for overheating, spoiling the processor and voiding the warranty? I understand that MQ is just a factory-tuned of the exact same processor with lower energy consumption?
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It depends on model. Some models like GL504, Aero 15/15X, GS65 and GM501 have low response times LG & AUO panels - LGD05C0, AUO80ED, AUO71ED. From what I know, GK5CN6Z uses the same LG panel too. You want to know which model?

Low sRGB isn't noticable to some ppl (I can notice a bit only), however I feel like contrast ratio is more important. If it's for indoor use, 220/250 nits (common in low sRGB IPS panels) is plenty. You can fix a bit via Intel Graphics Control Panel, but not much.

There will be no overheating since you are actually doing GPU undervolting. Max-Q is just a downclocked card, that's all. It will not void warranty.
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post Nov 10 2018, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(alpha @ Nov 10 2018, 01:28 PM)
Planning to buy a laptop on 11.11.
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It's better to reply you on 11 Nov...
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is msi gs75vr got any heat issue? review on this model not much
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post Nov 10 2018, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(kamikraze @ Nov 10 2018, 04:57 PM)
is msi gs75vr got any heat issue? review on this model not much
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Never heard of that model. GT75 got lah

Should be around the same with GS73VR. Mediocre cooling (fan speed too low) and OK-good build quality. All GS series models are pretty much the same
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hi all,
i'm eyeing on this Lenovo IdeaPad 320S-14IKBR
planning to add ram and ssd
what brand should i choose for the ram?

and also, how is the battery life on this laptop?
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post Nov 10 2018, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(adrian76674 @ Nov 10 2018, 08:01 PM)
what brand should i choose for the ram?

and also, how is the battery life on this laptop?
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RAM is RAM, any brand will do, just need to match frequency, timings and capacity

Battery should be 52Wh which is plenty, expect 7-8 hrs

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