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Notebook Recommendation Thread v.31, Need To Buy Laptop... Please Come In
Notebook Recommendation Thread v.31, Need To Buy Laptop... Please Come In
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Nov 8 2018, 05:54 PM
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Nov 8 2018, 06:04 PM
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Nov 8 2018, 06:05 PM
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Nov 8 2018, 08:19 PM
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QUOTE(fweting @ Nov 8 2018, 06:08 PM) G7: 60Hz 45% NTSC IPSIllegear which model? Avoid FX504 and Helios 300 due to bad cooling: Helios 300 i5 - 60Hz 45% NTSC IPS Helios 300 i7 - 144Hz 72% NTSC IPS Helios 300 17 i7 - 144Hz 72% NTSC IPS FX504 - got many model, low end TN, low sRGB IPS, 120Hz TN |
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Nov 9 2018, 11:07 AM
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Nov 9 2018, 12:45 PM
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Nov 9 2018, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Nov 7 2018, 09:52 PM) If you're not going for Asus and wanted 144Hz IPS: Thanks for the input. I am still having a headache to decide.Illegear Raven Elite (TongFang GK5CN67) HP Omen 15-dc0126TX Illegear Laguna Lenovo Legion Y530 (customize) Commandos Carbine 5 (Clevo N950TP6) - desktop CPU Illegear Raven - USB C no DP If you're fine with 120Hz TN: MSI GP63 8RE Level51 W15 Lite (Clevo N950TP6) - desktop CPU I may not need a high frequency display because I read that GTX 1060 may not fully utilise 144Hz. But I prefer IPS (this means the last 2 models with TN are ruled out). QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Nov 8 2018, 01:38 AM) Onyx isn't in your budget for the 1060 model if I remembered correctly. Z7 doesn't offer high refresh rate panel upgrade. I could stretch abit for Onyx and consider a lower than 144Hz panel Z7 (I couldn't find the refresh rate for Z7 display. Any idea?)Clevo and TongFang both have their pros and cons. Also depends on model Using desktop CPU doesn't bring any bad thing since mobile BGA chips are actually binned worse. They will run hotter if they have the same specs with the desktop LGA ones. In fact 8th gen mobile chips already run hot. Moreover, the repair cost will be cheaper if the mobo goes wrong. Power adapter depends on specs I read your LTT article. It seems that Asus GL504G-MES238T ranked highly within this range of specs? Not sure if I should risk the ASUS support matters. So, you are saying that desktop CPU on a notebook maybe be a better choice? Maybe i7-8700 i7-8400 (equivalent to 8750H)? The reason why I mentioned DP is because i have plans to connect to an external GSync IPS monitor. If DP is not the way to go, do you think I need TB3 (which means the price will go up) and/or USB-C instead of DP? |
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Nov 9 2018, 07:17 PM
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Nov 9 2018, 08:34 PM
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QUOTE(toffy @ Nov 9 2018, 04:38 PM) Thanks for the input. I am still having a headache to decide. 60+Hz gives you better gaming experience, even it's not utilized fully. Onyx has good build quality and good enough cooling, however it has some issues too like high fan noise. As I said above, Z7 only have 1 display option: 100% sRGB 60Hz IPSI may not need a high frequency display because I read that GTX 1060 may not fully utilise 144Hz. But I prefer IPS (this means the last 2 models with TN are ruled out). I could stretch abit for Onyx and consider a lower than 144Hz panel Z7 (I couldn't find the refresh rate for Z7 display. Any idea?) I read your LTT article. It seems that Asus GL504G-MES238T ranked highly within this range of specs? Not sure if I should risk the ASUS support matters. So, you are saying that desktop CPU on a notebook maybe be a better choice? Maybe i7-8700 i7-8400 (equivalent to 8750H)? The reason why I mentioned DP is because i have plans to connect to an external GSync IPS monitor. If DP is not the way to go, do you think I need TB3 (which means the price will go up) and/or USB-C instead of DP? If you want get Asus, you need to pray that you don't get a lemon LGA>BGA. Always. Thickness will slightly increase though. DP will do, no need TB3. Some USB C don't support display output |
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Nov 9 2018, 08:35 PM
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Nov 10 2018, 12:50 AM
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Nov 9 2018, 08:34 PM) 60+Hz gives you better gaming experience, even it's not utilized fully. Onyx has good build quality and good enough cooling, however it has some issues too like high fan noise. As I said above, Z7 only have 1 display option: 100% sRGB 60Hz IPS Great input. Will consider your comments for Onyx and Z7.If you want get Asus, you need to pray that you don't get a lemon LGA>BGA. Always. Thickness will slightly increase though. DP will do, no need TB3. Some USB C don't support display output Would 120Hz be good enough instead of 144hz which may be overkill for GTX 1060? Ok, then i better don't risk getting an Asus haha. Since LGA is better, that means try to get a desktop CPU. Based on my findings, desktop CPU under Illegear exceeds RM7. The one with desktop CPU within my price range of RM6k plus is Level51 W15-Lite. Any comments for this model? Ya, it seems that TB3 uses USB-C as the port but it doesn't mean the reverse is true. I just considered Dell G7 since the price is good and it is in your LTT post but then you are right the it has low sRGB and it is not using a full-fledged 1060 (instead it uses max Q). This post has been edited by toffy: Nov 10 2018, 12:51 AM |
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Nov 10 2018, 08:09 AM
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QUOTE(toffy @ Nov 10 2018, 12:50 AM) Great input. Will consider your comments for Onyx and Z7. TBH you won't notice any difference between 120Hz and 144Hz, however you might notice a bit of ghosting in cheap 144Hz IPS panelWould 120Hz be good enough instead of 144hz which may be overkill for GTX 1060? Ok, then i better don't risk getting an Asus haha. Since LGA is better, that means try to get a desktop CPU. Based on my findings, desktop CPU under Illegear exceeds RM7. The one with desktop CPU within my price range of RM6k plus is Level51 W15-Lite. Any comments for this model? Ya, it seems that TB3 uses USB-C as the port but it doesn't mean the reverse is true. I just considered Dell G7 since the price is good and it is in your LTT post but then you are right the it has low sRGB and it is not using a full-fledged 1060 (instead it uses max Q). Illegear only sells Clevo P750, P775 and P870 which are high end models. N950TP6 with 1060 GPU can be bought from ArmoryX and Level51. This model is fine, no major flaws. G7 has low sRGB IPS. But the 1060MQ isn't really a problem since you can tune it to a full 1060N via voltage frequency curve |
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Nov 10 2018, 01:28 PM
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Planning to buy a laptop on 11.11.
Budget: Below RM2500 no gaming, merely surfing, downloading, something editing/converting video preferable asus or lenovo 1TB storage anti-glare screen 15" inches screen preferable, 14 inches is ok weight is no a problem, seldom carry around, mostly laptop sit on the desk have long lasting battery, preferable 4-5 hours on battery, longer better. i7? Thank you for any suggestion. |
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Nov 10 2018, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE(ZM Fong @ Nov 10 2018, 08:09 AM) TBH you won't notice any difference between 120Hz and 144Hz, however you might notice a bit of ghosting in cheap 144Hz IPS panel For the models you listed, I hope none of them has cheap 144Hz IPS panel? Or it depends on luck?Illegear only sells Clevo P750, P775 and P870 which are high end models. N950TP6 with 1060 GPU can be bought from ArmoryX and Level51. This model is fine, no major flaws. G7 has low sRGB IPS. But the 1060MQ isn't really a problem since you can tune it to a full 1060N via voltage frequency curve Is low sRGB IPS a real noticeable problem? Dimmer screen and makes the display looks bad? This can't be fixed right? If I tune the voltage frequency curve (using Afterburner?), to convert back 1060MQ to full 1060N, will there be issues for overheating, spoiling the processor and voiding the warranty? I understand that MQ is just a factory-tuned of the exact same processor with lower energy consumption? |
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Nov 10 2018, 02:18 PM
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QUOTE(toffy @ Nov 10 2018, 01:50 PM) For the models you listed, I hope none of them has cheap 144Hz IPS panel? Or it depends on luck? It depends on model. Some models like GL504, Aero 15/15X, GS65 and GM501 have low response times LG & AUO panels - LGD05C0, AUO80ED, AUO71ED. From what I know, GK5CN6Z uses the same LG panel too. You want to know which model?Is low sRGB IPS a real noticeable problem? Dimmer screen and makes the display looks bad? This can't be fixed right? If I tune the voltage frequency curve (using Afterburner?), to convert back 1060MQ to full 1060N, will there be issues for overheating, spoiling the processor and voiding the warranty? I understand that MQ is just a factory-tuned of the exact same processor with lower energy consumption? Low sRGB isn't noticable to some ppl (I can notice a bit only), however I feel like contrast ratio is more important. If it's for indoor use, 220/250 nits (common in low sRGB IPS panels) is plenty. You can fix a bit via Intel Graphics Control Panel, but not much. There will be no overheating since you are actually doing GPU undervolting. Max-Q is just a downclocked card, that's all. It will not void warranty. |
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Nov 10 2018, 02:19 PM
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Nov 10 2018, 04:57 PM
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is msi gs75vr got any heat issue? review on this model not much
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Nov 10 2018, 06:28 PM
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Nov 10 2018, 08:01 PM
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hi all,
i'm eyeing on this Lenovo IdeaPad 320S-14IKBR planning to add ram and ssd what brand should i choose for the ram? and also, how is the battery life on this laptop? |
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Nov 10 2018, 08:36 PM
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