Clevo N850 which has mediocre cooling and OKish build quality

Get another option

No one can tell whether the performance can last 4-5 years but in general, no

8300H and 8750H have performance difference especially in multi core load, but not much in games

Onyx Lite - 1050TI/1060
Onyx RTX - 2060/2070MQ
Same chassis

This post has been edited by ZM Fong: Mar 6 2019, 01:16 PM

Thinkpad E is basically consumer rebrand

Most Ryzen laptops have inconsistent/poor CPU performance and battery life due to bad drivers/firmware/BIOS

Can refer to my regular laptop list for more options

Ya ya..i mean like vga or hdmi..ooo..

Try Carousell , but you need to scout and look at the condition of the device la...a bit ma fan


Thinkpad E585

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksc2LSyO8vs

T series , E series is basically consumer level like ZM Fong pointed out. So my recommendation is to go for T-series, you could easily upgrade and it's pretty durable laptop
Personally i would pick T series , if you need recommendation try reddit thinkpad subforum




Lenovo were the first ones to allow Ryzen . So far I checked out some youtube vidoes , gives you some decent performance for the price.

Min battery life - Not too sure on this as I havent had much experience dealing with laptop battery life. is 2-3 hours while running programs on a high or low battery life end.

Max Weight - Around 1.5kg max preferably.

thinkpad seems like a good shout.

Any thoughts on asus zenbook 14 vs thinkpad T?

One is Ultrabook, one is premium business laptop, cannot direct compare

What sort of programs do you run ?


One is consumer and one is geared towards enterprise

just wondering, E series is consumer level, is it still much better build than ideapad series or same same only?

want to know is how severe the cooling in E490?
is it always that hot when only multi tab web browsing and using visual studio
or hot when constantly playing game?

if i5 and i7 no much difference, with around the same spec setup for E490 and T480,
the price difference is around RM500+-
this RM500 worth the better cooling and battery in T480?

A bit better imo

E480 has severe cooling until dGPU performance only can match Intel iGPU (firmware limited) while E490 has better performance but still runs very hot (60+C surface temp under GPU load)

T series has better QC+QA as well, don't forget that

hmm... tat means for laptop, no matter GPU MX 150 or RX550X, when it gets HOT, the performance about the same as UHD620 ?

if Thinkpad T480 which is better? with or without MX 150?

E480 has the dGPU throttled due to firmware (insufficient cooling), most laptops will be fine

Do you need dGPU for your workload?

Yes , it is better built - at least you get the iconic thinkpad keyboard

It does get warm when you do certain tasks , but mostly if it is going to be on a desk , it is fine. The T480 is on its own class , its premium and you can easily upgrade it (lets say two months down the road , you want to add a 4G card , it can be done , or upgrade the ram , it can be done...replace the screen with 4K screen...it can be done


MX150/RX550X is way better vs UHD 620 if you are talking about gaming. Now it boils down to do you need a dedicated GPU or not....if no , save the money - get the built in GPU , if you think you need because you play some games from time to time , i say get the dGPU

just in case anyone want to go... hopefully can find good deal...
my suggestions... want to know if its cheap?
-compare price before the expo.... like other places or online price...
-do check if there is bundle with warranty extension? (sometimes there are, sometimes it depends)
-any freebies(some are useless, try if can exchange) see if your purchase worth or not
-software bundle may some are useful, but do not get cheated... some are just trial. 30 days mostly... such as anti virus / Microsoft programs..

so only E480 problematic, E490 or T480 is still fine right?

I guess I will still play games occasionally and some other application, so dGPU is needed.

interesting, i never know T480 can be easily upgrade?
especially, the 4k screen.
the upgrades can be done by who? me or lenovo shop or send back to lenovo factory?
wont the warranty void?

This post has been edited by BZP: Mar 7 2019, 11:52 AM

Actually E480 is also okay (if you go reddit for thinkpad - got people who buy them - they are okay just htat you don't get the full thinkpad build quality la) . E480 can be upgraded

T480 can be easily upgradable and it's the last thinkpad (T490) that you can upgrade/change the battery , screen , even the keyboard. The beauty part of is the warranty wouldnt be voided. Thinkpad is the only laptop that dont put a seal to say warranty void at the back cover


You buy the parts and pasang sendiri (got manual) , upgrade ones they can do but it costs a bomb.

https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/ <-- join the community and look how durable Thinkpad are ....

Afraid I can't increase my budget, I understand getting the screen that I specified is very hard at this price range? If so, maybe you can recommend at least an IPS and acceptable brightness? Thanks!

Define acceptable brightness - how many nits max?

Maybe around 280 nits (limited knowledge here)? I would mostly spend time working indoors. But if I have to use it outdoors (not direct sunlight, maybe outside mamak), I hope at least I can still work with the laptop.