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post Jun 10 2021, 12:52 PM

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QUOTE(wirelessbuyer @ Jun 10 2021, 12:24 PM)
To check local wifi speed, I normally use iperf3. It require 2 device, 1 act as server and another 1 act as client. It is recommended that the server is directly connected using lan cable (cat 5e or higher) to the router/switch (and make sure it is gigabit capable). Then the client can perform the test using either wifi or lan cable.
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ohh ok.. i did went googled around try iperf3 both on wifi, my server is pc, then phone i use the he.net to test, but it seems like the speed capped at 100Mbit/s.. which i dont think is possible.. my router ax20 lol.
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post Jun 10 2021, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(wirelessbuyer @ Jun 10 2021, 02:20 PM)
Ax20 is gigabit capable over lan. Could be your lan cable or your pc mootherboard ethernet port that could only support up to 100Mbps
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No oh i use wifi.. wifi shudnt be tat slow at 100mbps also. I remember before i downgrade my unifi can reach 300-400mbps.. my unifi is 500mbps tat time
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post Jun 14 2021, 01:49 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Jun 14 2021, 01:05 PM)
Guys regard to this setting should i just leave it like this or need special tick on which collume
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For me is enable ofdma, then 2.4ghz. Also i 2.4ghz i only turn on wireless a/b/g/n.
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post Jun 14 2021, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Jun 14 2021, 04:02 PM)
okey noted , what the benefit of turn on wireless a/b/g/n?
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Err blacktubi did shared something about wireless ax on 2.4ghz is not stable, better to keep abgn only. Wireless ac is only on 5ghz anyway. Which means, if ur device can support ax ac, most likely it will run on 5ghz already, so leave ur 2.4ghz solely for legacy device, then it will be more stable.
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post Jun 14 2021, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Jun 14 2021, 04:06 PM)
I have warned a lot of time about this here and people still choose to buy Xiaomi or China router. whistling.gif

All China router designated for China market will have weak WiFi signal due to regulation.

Their transmit power regulation much lower than international standard.
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Does phone from china suffering from same fate? Lol.. especially those meant for china market buy grey import here
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post Jun 15 2021, 03:44 PM

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Guys, just wanna check if i wanna make my 1st floor connection more stable and better speed, is this onemesh extender a good option? my router is ax20. I remember if like use wireless range extender, the speed will be halved. how about for onemesh system?
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post Jun 17 2021, 05:46 AM

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QUOTE(Scissorshand @ Jun 16 2021, 06:22 PM)
Am using one main router AX20 located upstairs hall, am satisfied so far with the connection and stable speed cos sub to 100mbps. Built up approx 2800sqf

Below is the speed and connection taken while I'm at the front porch which is OK.

Would adding another AX20 or M4 (connecting to main via wifi) as mesh is worthwhile?
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Ax20 only can use onemesh system punya extender. Don buy m4. I think it depends where u wanna put the onemesh unit. Better don buy another ax20 only onemesh extender can be used for seamless conectivity. I did asked around whether the inemesh will affect bandwidth or not but so far no ppl answering me lol. So i cannot comment on the speed.
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post Jun 17 2021, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Jun 17 2021, 09:35 AM)
All dual-band mesh WiFi system will only deliver half of the total backhaul capacity at the mesh node.

It doesn't mean half of the 100Mbps speed you are subscribed to.

Let say the link speed between the mesh node to main node is 300Mbps, the maximum WiFi speed you can get from it is around ~150Mbps.
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ahh ok.. so meaning to say my local network speed will be halved. but then the whole network coverage and stability could be better.
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post Jun 17 2021, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Jun 17 2021, 10:08 AM)
In general you do not need to test the network speed for home since it is not busy place. Network speed it to test the traffic in network.

When you device do handshake signal with AP or your wireless router, the connection is established at certain speed due to signal condition due to interference or distance. I think you can see what is the establish speed on the phone by pressing on WiFI icon or use apps. I'm sure many apps out there can show connection speed. No matter if your router can connect at 500Mbps or not, your speed will max at the establish speed  biggrin.gif

For mesh router, it is full capable speed. The reason for reduced bandwidth is just because you use half of the band as connection to the other mesh unit. So, only the other half is available for traffic to your device.

If you use LAN cable from one mech unit to the other mesh unit, then each mesh unit will have full bandwidth to communicate with devices.

For range extender, it is not really half the bandwidth but more like half the speed. Say your router takes 1s to extender and from extender 1s to your device. Then total time is 2s. If you have connection from router to your device, then you only need 1s. So, it is half the speed, but it is like half the bandwidth too  smile.gif
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I see.. iphone cannot see the established speed lol. Let me try some app. Because even not busy, but dunno why if stream from pc to shieldtv sometimes will hang hang especially high bitrate file. Eventho my pc showing like 600mbps speed and the file like bluray remux mkv bitrate is around 30MB/s. Thats y i wan to see wat is the local wifi network speed. I wont care if i not using local streaming but then i guess tis is important to me.

but those proper mesh unit like deco will have dedicated band for backhaul right? I believe only like onemesh which is dualband only.

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post Jun 17 2021, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Jun 17 2021, 12:30 PM)
If streaming gives problem I guess it is not about bandwidth but the processing power of the device or perhaps faulty unit. Cheap unit tend to have slower processor thus hung up if buffer gets overloaded I think.

The difference between Deco Mesh and OneMesh has nothing to do with dedicated backhaul. When Asus came up with AiMesh, you just need to upgrade a bunch up listed models with AiMesh firmware and you can have mixed Asus model to perform like mesh network. Other players at that time you need to buy a mesh units set. If you already have one model, you have to ditch that one and replace with mesh set.

To simulate what Asus did, then TP came out with OneMesh. The Deco Mesh comes as a set of AP decicated for mesh. Therefore the OneMesh is cheaper solution. The difference is here:
https://community.tp-link.com/us/home/stories/detail/536

I do not have mesh routers but if I need to setup one, I will opt for LAN connection between mesh. The reason is simple. The connection speed between two unit related to distance and also obstructions. So, the further the distance, the backhaul speed will also suffer. You will have improved coverage but you will lose speed and not utilizing full router potential if you use wireless backhaul. You do not want to put your mesh unit near to each other right?  laugh.gif

I bought an Asus since it was the only brand that enable you to build mesh network stage by stage since can mix model. However, my Asus GT-AC5300 can get at least 200Mbps anywhere inside my two storey house when I run speed test. Maybe not much thing in my house  laugh.gif
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Thanks for the explanation. Problem with LAN is need proper wiring and very time consuming in the process and also the routing from downstairs to upstairs need tembus ceiling lol. Actually my house only 5ppl use and is mostly my parents and uncle family. I might not need mesh solution but perhaps more powerful single router.

I also have those smart devices connecting to my router but is via 2.4ghz. Maybe i shud get a hub and let all those thing connect to my hub then the hub to router is better.

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post Jun 17 2021, 06:43 PM

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QUOTE(Zot @ Jun 17 2021, 01:07 PM)
My Unifi fiber goes under porch roof and through the wall behind TV cabinet and to BTU in TV cabinet. All hidden. I drill the hole and made preparation a day before the contractor came. So, it done very fast.

If I want to have a mesh router on 1st floor. I will route the cable the same way. Put short trunk outside the house and drill a hole in master bedroom where I can place a cabinet or shelf to put the unit. Will be nice without messy wiring inside the house.  smile.gif

Yes, single router is easier. Since now everyone gone AX crazy, the AC price much cheaper. Actually the old top tier router has some feature of the AX already. The modulation even go to QPSK 1024.
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my fibre termination is at very awkward position, level 2 common area no plug, this is my parents house so cant do much. if my own house i will definitely plan nicely in the future lol.


actually not much device use AX also.. like my phone, only my phone using AX lol. but then, this ax20 much better than my previous tmobile ac1900 flashed ac68u. And unifi offering me upgrade to 300mbps then give me 2x deco m4 lol. maybe i can tryout this deco if it can make my house wifi better haha. best thing is they take out hypptv this time. thank God.
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QUOTE(chastise @ Jun 17 2021, 06:02 PM)
I realised the problem is with the stock unifi router. Bottleneck issue. Would want maximised speed and coverage so extender and repeater is not sufficient for my usage.

I'm going for M9 Plus but now considering whether i would wanna upgrade the 842 to ax73.
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First thing to do when u install unifi, ditch than god damn router lol. i see ur build up sqft is 5800 and 3 floor, i would suggest better u go for mesh wifi to fully utilize ur 500mbps.
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post Jun 22 2021, 11:22 PM

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Unifi just upgraded my line to 300mbps, tried speedtest at 2nd floor can get 300mbps, ok la tis ax20 is good enuf for my house lol.

Tomorrow try various see. But i can say is ax is much better than ac in terms of penetration. Using ax i can online outside my house when i inside my car. But last time use ac cannot.
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post Jun 24 2021, 12:02 PM

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apparently my AC network is weaker than my AX. AC can only get 150mbps at 2nd floor but AC cannot. when deco m4 arrive i will try and see whether it will improve my AC speed or not.
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QUOTE(Dylnyat @ Jun 24 2021, 06:56 PM)
Have u receive your order@ email yet? Just get upgraded today. No email yet for mesh wifi 😅
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Ya i received the email for the deco m4 the day they upgrade my line. Abit silently tho lol. It is from lapasar.
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post Jun 24 2021, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(maxguy @ Jun 24 2021, 02:51 PM)
you may install wifi analyser tool to find out best spot for full house coverage

https://vremsoftwaredevelopment.github.io/WiFiAnalyzer/
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Too bad no support ios.. No android phone, got also is low budget one as backup phone 😅
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post Jul 2 2021, 11:15 AM

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Anyone using the tplink onemesh system, may i know if i can use that onemesh to become a wireless access point, which i will use it to become a WIFI 6 access point for my non wifi6 equipment to be connected to wifi 6? Wanna know also can i connect LAN switch to it or not as well so i can connect all my TV gaming console to the onemesh extender.
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post Sep 26 2021, 09:06 PM

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Anyone know which router gives best wifi ping? My ax20 ping around 10-30ms, wanna know if any router can do better.
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post Mar 15 2022, 07:25 AM

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Hi guys, any way to share my internet to another house behind? Distance around 30m wall to wall. My uncle bak from singapore so thinking a way to share my house network instead he always stand outside his house to fetch wifi. Will wifi extender works? He doesnt need really good speed or good latency. I have a spare AC extender not sure how good it will work, cos the router is actually at living room, which is probably 40m include 2 walls in between to outdoor.
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post Mar 15 2022, 08:00 PM

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QUOTE(PRSXFENG @ Mar 15 2022, 07:32 PM)
Best way is to still just run a lan cable across but of course depending on the situation it might not be possible
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not easy tho, cos the house connect is my backyard to the sideyard of his house. just gonna try the extender and see how. but need to set the extender, susah also.

i think for now he complain i keep quiet. got voice out baru i go do lol.

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