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Theory/Lessons The Sweep Club! Janitors Unite!, Say no 2 tapping, stringskippin......

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post Jun 15 2007, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(SweetTooth @ Jun 15 2007, 01:16 PM)
sweeping in blur... some people might call you a noob for not playing cleanly =/
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...if your slow sweeps sound like a blur, then ya lah... but at gaps' speed, that's a different story...

e.g. the super-ultra fast 5-6 string sweeps by guys like rusty cooley, francesco fareri, it pretty much sounds like a "blur" - not because it's sloppy, but because it's so bloody fast your brain can only make out the texture of the notes and not the individual notes...

...and technical ability aside, it depends on your tone as well... if you've got a lot of reverb/bass/low-mids in your tone, chances are the ultra-fast sweeps won't sound very distinct...

my RM0.24... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 15 2007, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(RustReaver4D1 @ Jun 15 2007, 01:51 PM)
...if your slow sweeps sound like a blur, then ya lah... but at gaps' speed, that's a different story...

e.g. the super-ultra fast 5-6 string sweeps by guys like rusty cooley, francesco fareri, it pretty much sounds like a "blur" - not because it's sloppy, but because it's so bloody fast your brain can only make out the texture of the notes and not the individual notes...

...and technical ability aside, it depends on your tone as well... if you've got a lot of reverb/bass/low-mids in your tone, chances are the ultra-fast sweeps won't sound very distinct...

my RM0.24...  icon_rolleyes.gif
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+RM1

so now RM1.24

tongue.gif i think it depends on the song too

like rhapsody , i think luca's sweeps sound pretty blurry , but hey , it suits the whole epic song !

plus , if you are too scared that people might call you a "noob" ..then i suggest don't shred . cause shredders get criticized up and down .stick to FEEL !. woot smile.gif

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post Jun 15 2007, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(gapnap @ Jun 15 2007, 02:22 PM)
+RM1

so now RM1.24

tongue.gif i think it depends on the song too

like rhapsody , i think luca's sweeps sound pretty blurry , but hey , it suits the whole epic song !

plus , if you are too scared that people might call you a "noob" ..then i suggest don't shred . cause shredders get criticized up and down .stick to FEEL !. woot  smile.gif
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Haha... his 3-string sweeps sound damn blurry, but I think that's because he's trying to get more like a hybrid sweep/strum sound from it, so it'll sound more like a chord than an arpeggio...

But his 6-string sweeps, especially off tracks like "Land of Immortals" sound quite clear...

Anyway... +RM5.76

So now RM7.00 FTW! rclxms.gif

QUOTE(gapnap @ Jun 15 2007, 02:22 PM)
plus , if you are too scared that people might call you a "noob" ..then i suggest don't shred . cause shredders get criticized up and down .stick to FEEL !. woot  smile.gif
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post Jun 15 2007, 02:39 PM

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Watched both of their videos again; don't forget Chris Impellitteri...
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Sh*t, I've got to go practice...
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post Jun 15 2007, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(Rossie @ Jun 15 2007, 02:39 PM)
Watched both of their videos again; don't forget Chris Impellitteri...
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Sh*t, I've got to go practice...
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Who? Luca Turilli? Rusty? Francesco?

I've only seen Suspension by Francesco (who was recommended to me by good ol' EQ777, who said Francesco is faster than Rusty... he is! shocking.gif ).... overall, IMNSHO I think the song sucks balls compared to Rusty...

Rusty... notworthy.gif

In terms of speed, Rusty is to Francesco like what BB King is to SRV.
But Rusty tapaus Francesco in terms of feel... Francesco's vibrato is sickening... sounds like Kirk Hammet, if he could shred at 1337-nps... tongue.gif


EDIT: Hope I don't get flamed for dissing Kirk Hammett... I'm sorry... but not really... whistling.gif


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post Jun 15 2007, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(RustReaver4D1 @ Jun 15 2007, 03:12 PM)
Who? Luca Turilli? Rusty? Francesco?

I've only seen Suspension by Francesco (who was recommended to me by good ol' EQ777, who said Francesco is faster than Rusty... he is!  shocking.gif ).... overall, IMNSHO I think the song sucks balls compared to Rusty...

Rusty...  notworthy.gif 

In terms of speed, Rusty is to Francesco like what BB King is to SRV.
But Rusty tapaus Francesco in terms of feel... Francesco's vibrato is sickening... sounds like Kirk Hammet, if he could shred at 1337-nps...  tongue.gif


EDIT: Hope I don't get flamed for dissing Kirk Hammett... I'm sorry... but not really...  whistling.gif

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i think Francesco is Faster than Rusty , in terms of recordings..

but we don't know the actual maximum speed of Rusty , and the actual maximum speed of Fareri as well

however , i used to attend a shred forum

i forgotten already , cause i no longer active , if i am not mistaken ..its either
guitar 9 , chops from hell or the shred zone

most prob is the shred zone ...this forums , Francesco , Rusty and other shredders actually logs in and participate in the forum , answering fans question etc..

Once there was a post , Francesco told everybody , he saw Rusty's actual speed and his speed is nothing compared to Rusty . oh yea..Rusty seldom post in the forum..
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post Jun 15 2007, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(gapnap @ Jun 15 2007, 03:25 PM)
i think Francesco is Faster than Rusty , in terms of recordings..

but we don't know the actual maximum speed of Rusty , and the actual maximum speed of Fareri as well

however , i used to attend a shred forum

i forgotten already , cause i no longer active , if i am not mistaken ..its either
guitar 9 , chops from hell or the shred zone

most prob is the shred zone ...this forums , Francesco , Rusty and other shredders actually logs in and participate in the forum , answering fans question etc..

Once there was a post , Francesco told everybody , he saw Rusty's actual speed and his speed is nothing compared to Rusty . oh yea..Rusty seldom post in the forum..
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Typical shredder pseudo-humility... hehe... tongue.gif

Yeah, well, Rusty ROXXORZ FTW! notworthy.gif
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post Jun 15 2007, 04:40 PM

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Yeah, I prefer Rusty too, he's much more melodic...
I hear some JP influence in his playing too, not to mention his tone! Reminds me alot of JP...

Suspended... That song sounds just so wrong...
Chris Impellitteri is just sick... The old school of speed maybe?
I read somewhere that Chris Impellitteri got dissed at sucking at guitar, so he decided to be the fastest player alive... notworthy.gif
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post Jun 15 2007, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(Rossie @ Jun 15 2007, 04:40 PM)
Yeah, I prefer Rusty too, he's much more melodic...
I hear some JP influence in his playing too, not to mention his tone! Reminds me alot of JP...

Suspended... That song sounds just so wrong...
Chris Impellitteri is just sick... The old school of speed maybe?
I read somewhere that Chris Impellitteri got dissed at sucking at guitar, so he decided to be the fastest player alive... notworthy.gif
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Hehe... Chris Impelliteri is pretty sick, but yeah, a bit old-school sounding.

...someone must've dissed Rusty pretty bad for him to that fast now! tongue.gif
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post Jun 15 2007, 09:13 PM

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I actually prefer Chris Impelliteri's music though, minus the solos...
I like that kinda music, I'm no metal-head...
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post Jun 16 2007, 01:40 AM

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hmmm well Rusty started the 7 because JP intro him to it. . . so yea. . .

and 17th Century Chicken Picking!!!!!

lolz good warm up song. . . has everythign in it. . .

and i like Impelliterri's classic rock metal feel. . .
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post Jun 16 2007, 06:21 AM

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Chicken picking? You've gotta check out Albert Lee if you haven't...

EDIT: AL brings a whole new meaning to "playing fast and clean"...

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lmao. . . stupid shred durst. . .xD

i suck at chicken picking. . . the movement makes my arm uncomfortable. . .

the angle also. . . owh well . . .

my guitar won't be done till nxt thurs. . . lol. . . sad stuff. . .bored stiff home now =.=

Rossie you heard right 17th century? the riff is so cool lmao. . .
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post Jun 16 2007, 06:40 PM

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Checking it out now...
I like Rat Race though...
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post Jun 16 2007, 06:59 PM

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try spanish fire. . . another ganas 1
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post Jun 16 2007, 07:16 PM

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Just checked out the chicken picking video...
Damn fast... But damn no point... lol...

Try Albert Lee's Country Boy! Find the video of him playing live with a live band... Matt Groening on piano and Sterling Ball on bass!

Okok... Maybe the pianist isn't Matt Groening, but he sure does look like him! lol...


Added on June 16, 2007, 10:46 pmDo you guys sweep or alternate the intro of Groove or Die?

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QUOTE(Rossie @ Jun 16 2007, 07:16 PM)

Added on June 16, 2007, 10:46 pmDo you guys sweep or alternate the intro of Groove or Die?
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I just die. doh.gif

heheh... what's groove or die? sounds like an ultimatum given by a funk band to the bassist... whistling.gif
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post Jun 21 2007, 04:25 PM

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It's Andy Timmons' shred song...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mIAaAXBtwwI&mode=related&search=


Added on June 21, 2007, 4:26 pmHere's Albert Lee's Country Boy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOFpQd7aJ9U


Added on June 21, 2007, 4:27 pmI just got the Gigantour vids, JP really did alternate pick all the freaking arpeggios!
shocking.gif

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QUOTE(Rossie @ Jun 21 2007, 04:25 PM)
It's Andy Timmons' shred song...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=mIAaAXBtwwI&mode=related&search=


Added on June 21, 2007, 4:26 pmHere's Albert Lee's Country Boy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOFpQd7aJ9U


Added on June 21, 2007, 4:27 pmI just got the Gigantour vids, JP really did alternate pick all the freaking arpeggios!
shocking.gif
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As EQ would say: i c i c XD

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