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post Jun 29 2007, 09:42 PM

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[G, Bb, Db] Gdim with an added 6th note (E)?



gapnap
post Jun 30 2007, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(RustReaver4D1 @ Jun 29 2007, 06:23 PM)
Ok... here's something that's been bugging me for quite some time. I saw this sweep arpeggio off Insane Guitar and the site labels it as a "diminished arpeggio".

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If I'm not mistaken, the notes are E, G, C# and Bb. But what I can't figure out is, what bloody arpeggio is it? E diminished? G diminished? C# diminished? Bb diminished?

I went to Wiki diminished scales and this is what I got:

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...damn tough reading... phew...  blink.gif

The arpeggio seems to share the same notes as the D diminished (F, A♭, B diminished) scale... question is, what if I'm playing in a minor key? Which minor key can I use this arpeggio in?

...if anybody can make sense of this... please do!  thumbup.gif
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yo bro...

hurhurhur..i love diminish..

yeap..there are only 3 diminish chords...

how to use it ?

relate it with the Harmonic Minor Scale..

E harmonic minor : E F# G A B C Eb
E minor : E F# G A B C D

harmonic Minor note : Eb

use any ...Eb , F# , A or C Diminish scale..all the same

During an E minor Chord progression , when you run into "B" or "Eb/F/A/C diminish" Chord

apply that diminish sweep ! tongue.gif


example..chord progression

Em-D-C-B(insert diminish sweep here)-Em


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hope this helps
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post Jul 2 2007, 10:55 AM

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Thanks, gaps! thumbup.gif

But, err... a bit confused about this part:

QUOTE(gapnap @ Jun 30 2007, 02:00 AM)
relate it with the Harmonic Minor Scale..

E harmonic minor : E F# G A B C Eb
E minor : E F# G A B C D

harmonic Minor note : Eb

use any ...Eb , F# , A or C Diminish scale..all the same

During an E minor Chord progression , when you run into "B" or "Eb/F/A/C diminish" Chord
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So, if I'm playing in E harmonic minor, I use the Eb diminished scale for the arpeggios?

But which notes do I choose from the scale to build my arpeggio?? blink.gif

E♭ diminished (F♯/G♭, A, C diminished): E♭, F, F♯, G♯, A, B, C, D, E♭

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post Jul 2 2007, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(RustReaver4D1 @ Jul 2 2007, 10:55 AM)
Thanks, gaps!  thumbup.gif

But, err... a bit confused about this part:
So, if I'm playing in E harmonic minor, I use the Eb diminished scale for the arpeggios?

But which notes do I choose from the scale to build my arpeggio??  blink.gif

E♭ diminished (F♯/G♭, A, C diminished): E♭, F, F♯, G♯, A, B, C, D, E♭
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1.hmm.....Eb diminish7 arpeggio ( Eb , F# , A ,C ) ..all inside Eb diminish scale right ? then yes..

2.well , usually i don't build my diminish arpeggio ..by using diminish scale ..usually i use chromatic scale ..easier ..

but if you really wana look at it this way..the formula is

on Diminish scale

Diminish - 1, 3, 5
Diminish 7 - 1,3,5,7

you can build it from there..cheers smile.gif

cheers

This post has been edited by gapnap: Jul 2 2007, 11:06 AM
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post Jul 2 2007, 11:45 AM

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thanks!

ur de bes', bro! rclxms.gif
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post Jul 8 2007, 07:03 PM

 
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D|--------------------------12------|
A|------------------------13--------|
F|--14------------------14----------|
C|-----14-------------14------------|
G|--------15-12--12-15--------------|
D|-------------12-------------------|


what arpeggio is this? i'm having a hard time sweeping it sad.gif
even slow its hard for me

This post has been edited by SweetTooth: Jul 8 2007, 07:04 PM
valkyrie1232
post Jul 9 2007, 10:32 AM

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Looks pretty much like a normal A minor arpeggio to me. But in your tuning, G minor then!

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post Jul 9 2007, 03:52 PM

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post Jul 9 2007, 07:28 PM

 
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thanks a lot! that's SO much easier to play tongue.gif
i can't really roll that well. 2 strings ok but 3 strings, not a chance x.x

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