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yuen300
post Oct 21 2021, 08:58 PM

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Can check if existing wiring is done on 1phase, if want to change to 3phase, is it possible? And will I need to redo all my existing wiring?
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post Oct 22 2021, 08:33 AM

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QUOTE(yuen300 @ Oct 21 2021, 08:58 PM)
Can check if existing wiring is done on 1phase, if want to change to 3phase, is it possible? And will I need to redo all my existing wiring?
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Can, yes, no
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post Oct 22 2021, 01:58 PM

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QUOTE(stormer.lyn @ Oct 22 2021, 09:33 AM)
Can, yes, no
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Thanks. You are electrician? Haha, just wondering whether it is worth to do.
(read the cost could go to replace could go to 10k)
Currently, have 5 airconds. But usually only 2 airconds will on simultaneously.
Perhaps during CNY, will on like 4 units together, for a week.
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post Oct 22 2021, 02:27 PM

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QUOTE(yuen300 @ Oct 22 2021, 01:58 PM)
Thanks. You are electrician? Haha, just wondering whether it is worth to do.
(read the cost could go to replace could go to 10k)
Currently, have 5 airconds. But usually only 2 airconds will on simultaneously.
Perhaps during CNY, will on like 4 units together, for a week.
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When u replace ur single phase meter to 3 phase meter u should balance ur load accordingly & this might involved rewiring internal load.

Or u can let it be but if like that what is the purpose of changing to 3phase? Or possible ur gonna planning for future sub-DB which only u know ur future usage







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post Oct 22 2021, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(yuen300 @ Oct 22 2021, 01:58 PM)
Thanks. You are electrician? Haha, just wondering whether it is worth to do.
(read the cost could go to replace could go to 10k)
Currently, have 5 airconds. But usually only 2 airconds will on simultaneously.
Perhaps during CNY, will on like 4 units together, for a week.
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Not required to go 3phase if total load never trip the whole house MCB.
It should be sufficient as long as you don't operate all your electric cookers + all aircon + all WH on simultaneously.

Last time my place's incomer only 40A so previous owner already upgraded 3phase. But if your incomer is 63A I think its not required to do 3 phase.

This post has been edited by ceo684: Oct 22 2021, 11:14 PM
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post Oct 23 2021, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ Oct 22 2021, 11:24 PM)
Not required to go 3phase if total load never trip the whole house MCB.
It should be sufficient as long as you don't operate all your electric cookers + all aircon + all WH on simultaneously.

Last time my place's incomer only 40A so previous owner already upgraded 3phase. But if your incomer is 63A I think its not required to do 3 phase.
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I see. Thanks, since house currently using smart home setup, and previously electrician did warned about it.
Guess I will monitor and upgrade when the trip become more common.
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post Mar 8 2022, 01:55 PM

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i wonder if anyone got any latest update on the estimated cost now?
my electrician told me easily more than RM10k...

QUOTE(sonerin @ Sep 15 2018, 04:54 PM)
5k is reasonable price
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post Mar 8 2022, 07:28 PM

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Mar 8 2022, 01:55 PM)
i wonder if anyone got any latest update on the estimated cost now?
my electrician told me easily more than RM10k...
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i wanna apply resume 3 phase electricity also 2.6k d just on contractor side.
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post Mar 8 2022, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Mar 8 2022, 01:55 PM)
i wonder if anyone got any latest update on the estimated cost now?
my electrician told me easily more than RM10k...
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TNB and application will be around 4-5k. Not sure if you going to change the fuse box and other wiring. Yeah 10k is really not expensive
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post Mar 8 2022, 09:59 PM

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ok thank you...wanted to consider install solar panel for home and i was told for 6kW and above I need to have 3 phase wiring system. If added this RM10k+ cost just to convert to 3 phase...i think i'm gonna just drop the plan..upfront conversion cost already so high also...
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post Mar 9 2022, 06:32 AM

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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Mar 8 2022, 01:55 PM)
i wonder if anyone got any latest update on the estimated cost now?
my electrician told me easily more than RM10k...
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If your property is within the last 10 years, most of it are 3 phase ready.

My curent place, if I remembered right during VP then, some units converted to 3phase for less than 2k. Maybe now higher.
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post Jun 17 2024, 04:22 PM

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Hi, I am at subang jaya, i wanted to install solar panel up to 9KW, so I have to change to 3 phases.

Electrician is quoting me Rm5K include helping me to install the 3 phases meter, extend the dbbox, apply tnb which require 2 months waiting max. Rm5k didnt include rm300 connection changes by tnb and didnt include security deposit.

My house is the last house in the section and has 4 tnb cables so electrician said doesn't require tnb to pull new cable from the pole.

Any idea if the price is reasonable?


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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Jun 17 2024, 04:22 PM)
Hi, I am at subang jaya, i wanted to install solar panel up to 9KW, so I have to change to 3 phases.

Electrician is quoting me Rm5K include helping me to install the 3 phases meter, extend the dbbox, apply tnb which require 2 months waiting max. Rm5k didnt include rm300 connection changes by tnb and didnt include security deposit.

My house is the last house in the section and has 4 tnb cables so electrician said doesn't require tnb to pull new cable from the pole.

Any idea if the price is reasonable?
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Solar panel 9kW does not mean you will get 9kW output, the main item is the inverter. How many kW you have in mind?
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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Jun 17 2024, 04:22 PM)
Hi, I am at subang jaya, i wanted to install solar panel up to 9KW, so I have to change to 3 phases.

Electrician is quoting me Rm5K include helping me to install the 3 phases meter, extend the dbbox, apply tnb which require 2 months waiting max. Rm5k didnt include rm300 connection changes by tnb and didnt include security deposit.

My house is the last house in the section and has 4 tnb cables so electrician said doesn't require tnb to pull new cable from the pole.

Any idea if the price is reasonable?
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Yes that is about right price.
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post Jun 22 2024, 06:50 AM

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QUOTE(trust4you @ Sep 18 2018, 08:25 PM)
boss convert 3 phase because i have 7 air cond, possible on 5 at the same time, one of it is 2 horsepower.
if 1 phase can support ah boss
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7 aircon from phase 1, can’t use for phase 3.
Unless the aircon work with phase 3 like VRV or 8 HP and above , must work with phase 3.
Otherwise phase 1 can support up to 7 aircon.
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post Jun 30 2024, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(sovietmah @ Jun 17 2024, 04:22 PM)
Hi, I am at subang jaya, i wanted to install solar panel up to 9KW, so I have to change to 3 phases.

Electrician is quoting me Rm5K include helping me to install the 3 phases meter, extend the dbbox, apply tnb which require 2 months waiting max. Rm5k didnt include rm300 connection changes by tnb and didnt include security deposit.

My house is the last house in the section and has 4 tnb cables so electrician said doesn't require tnb to pull new cable from the pole.

Any idea if the price is reasonable?
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I have a 12 kWp solar installation running on single phase. No problem. Peak feed is 10 KW +/-, TNB approved. So I would not worry about 9 kWp on a single phase.
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post Jun 30 2024, 10:03 AM

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actually 3 Phase will save alot electric bill compare to 1 phase?

my house normally only turn on 2 aircond at the night , 1 normal fridge , 1 normal topload washing machine and LED downlight

if changing to 3 phase will make huge electric saving price?
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post Jun 30 2024, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Jun 30 2024, 10:03 AM)
actually 3 Phase will save alot electric bill compare to 1 phase?

my house normally only turn on 2 aircond at the night , 1 normal fridge , 1 normal topload washing machine and LED downlight

if changing to 3 phase will make huge electric saving price?
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Its not really to save energy but more for a better electrical load management


According to tnb,
https://www.mytnb.com.my/business/get-elect...ade-electricity

WHEN TO CHANGE

You are advised to change from a single-phase supply to a 3-phase supply when your household electricity load exceeds 10kW or 50A. As a rule of thumb, if you have three (3) or more air conditioners in your home, you should upgrade to a 3-phase supply as it will increase stability and reliability of electricity supply.

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post Jul 1 2024, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(enduser @ Jun 30 2024, 04:50 PM)
Its not really to save energy but more for a better electrical load management
According to tnb,
https://www.mytnb.com.my/business/get-elect...ade-electricity

WHEN TO CHANGE

You are advised to change from a single-phase supply to a 3-phase supply when your household electricity load exceeds 10kW or 50A. As a rule of thumb, if you have three (3) or more air conditioners in your home, you should upgrade to a 3-phase supply as it will increase stability and reliability of electricity supply.
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do u mean have 3 aircond or more open at the same time? Because i have 3 aircond room (1hp x2 + 1.5hp x1 + 2hp Living room)

so basically weekend only will be turn on living room 2hp for about 3-4 hour only , and at the night time mostly 1-2 aircond will be turn on ....


very very rare need to turn on all 4 unit aircond at the same time....

in term of stability , mean if over use the power , fuse box will easy burn and will jump fuse box?

This post has been edited by chongkiatz: Jul 1 2024, 04:52 PM
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post Jul 2 2024, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Jul 1 2024, 04:49 PM)
do u mean have 3 aircond or more open at the same time? Because i have 3 aircond room (1hp x2 + 1.5hp x1 + 2hp Living room)

so basically weekend only will be turn on living room 2hp for about 3-4 hour only , and at the night time mostly 1-2 aircond will be turn on ....
very very rare need to turn on all 4 unit aircond at the same time....

in term of stability , mean if over use the power , fuse box will easy burn and will jump fuse box?
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Yes, over usage will lead to the fuse getting burnt.

Also good to upgrade to 3-phase if you are considering using an EV car with EV charger in the future, coupled with CCTV, alarm system, smart home etc. etc.

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