every year also like this , so how your keyboard sales ? which one most order ? i guess your lifetime warranty keyboard ?

This post has been edited by Maxieos: Nov 11 2019, 12:43 AM

This This is why I always suggest using better reliable ewallet, maybe TnG but does shope support TnG ? Own shope pay wallet also got problem until now .I though only a few hours , until this morning ?
Moreover , no privacy data protection at all.
They are currently forcing people to use it but i am sure shope pay will end up all going back to laz.Laz wallet is much stable now while shope pay got a bunch of technical error.It'll jam or unable to topup and cases above , topup deduct but shope pay not updated.
Use other bank , but it is rare to see maintenance at 2pm.Maybe they receive a lot of calls about failure on shope pay system ? so they cancel and list at maintenance ?

You using premium shope pay ? As I know the limit is always 1,5k.I don't understand , you topup more than 1.5k ?

Better go to laz , their wallet max is RM4,999.

If buying large quantity of some expensive item , better go for laz.Max cashback coin is also only limited at shope.

I can see a large drop of sales if shope force buyer to use shope pay.If normal voucher can apply for few account for family or kids.Now they force 1 account , = less buyer = less sales.
So much hassle , with take IC , take selfie holding and no data protection.Not everyone are convince where this shope pay can only use on shope nothing more
Compare to TnG can use on toll , kfc , tesco, speemart , giant and etc.It can even use on laz too.

Yeh , like I mention before , even Singapore own shope not practising this approach taking selfie with whole body and also holding IC.Not about just infringement , I am more curious why they do not do at Singapore ?
The most concern is data protection and privacy where shope never said they'll keep our info safe.Malayisa, you know how data get leak easily.

According to rules ,You are only require to give out IC and selfie on ewallet but not fully body type.I posted a few page ago. https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=findpost&pid=94459621

They can change their 100% t&c uturn without informing user.t&c = contract which somehow is too much of uturn.

The trap which I doesn't agree is they setup is , get your personal information without any data protection.They may even reduce shipping to 1 not just voucher discount.They can even cancel all the benefits as they like after getting all your privacy IC.I don't know what are they going to do but it is surely something suspicious.No ewallet required such details even bank doesn't need to do a body selfie .

Yeh , laz wallet do not need to ask for all the details.Even without withdraw i can use laz as mobile telco topup and use up the remaining.
Not convince for full body selfie and no data protection privacy.
See how TnG replys on the news ,
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2019...rs-need-to-know
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=findpost&pid=94481145

This post has been edited by Maxieos: Nov 11 2019, 07:34 PM

They are forcing people to use wallet.gg , sales will not be as good as before.
Trading your BODY SCAN IC with a low 11% capped RM30 voucher . .Not to mention all price increase by merchant and shope 2% commission on seller = 5-8% discount only.

Please do not get trap or blind with voucher.


This post has been edited by Maxieos: Nov 11 2019, 08:23 PM

Weird , at around 9pm still at 2-3m milestone item sold from yesterday 12am.
but now 3-4 hours can increase to 6m ? i see those voucher isn't that much.
So what item sold the most ? Milo ?

? https://shopee.com.my/m/dp-bills?smtt=0.0.9 why they banned if you pay bill using their voucher ?

I also want to know , can apply voucher on sales day to pay bill ?

Now use shope pay only can use voucher , i don't think he get detected.No IC no voucher.1 IC 1 voucher.
It is fine to have an extra account for less hasle , safe delivery and privacy.

Yeh, immediate discount is better , the coinsback got so much of limitation like 1 day max 3k coins , some seller cannot use and cannot select how many coins you wanted to use.
You surely use up in 1 buy of rm100 item.I am sure most of us buying at shope surely more than rm100 on 11.11.So you spend more without discount and you just accumulate the coins without knowing what to buy.
Second, if you have 9k coins , you need to buy 3 separate days which some item doesn't have discount voucher.You can consider coin = quite useless.
I can breakdown the coin function and how shope manipulate your coins system to they need.

Just in the end , you only get 5-8% discount for coin cash back.

Problem is whether you use coin voucher ,you still need to pay full amount.There are very hard to find preferred seller selling cheap and their price change very fast.


Sorry , I am confuse what you mean ,
There are only 3 types ,
Merchant voucher discount = shop voucher
Bank direct voucher discount
Caskback Coins = No discount

Actually , we are using the abbreviation of voucher , cashback , discount , coins.
Previously = voucher = direct discount.
Cashback are coins where you get refund of $ after order of purchase.
Bank Discount = direct discount.
Coins , we all know and I don't actually wanted to sounds like voucher.

Last time someone having phone lag issue with low quality phone , maybe student.Got discuss before , but someone disagree.
I never though until now shope still haven't improve their apps at all.
Actually , I don't think it's to reduce multiple accounts.Simple, if shope can detect you are using emu just block for payment.Isn't that easy ? why go all the way around banning buyers.
It's more like they encourage multiple accounts.

Every apps can detect whether you are using emu or rooted , all depends on platform.If they wanted to block account using emu just block the payment.I don't know about laz , can laz use emu ?
I am sure Shope hired some low quality dev who can't even code to block payment for people use emu.
If can detect emu just give Notice or inform you are using emu which t&c apply will get banned.

More like , Shope allow emu , you purchase successfully using Shope Pay with Cashback coins , then banned you , coins and shope pay $ inside is bye bye. Good trap.

No need to give IC , just give up the account if no coins or shope pay.This kind of trick and traps shope use is cunning.

This post has been edited by Maxieos: Nov 13 2019, 10:33 PM

It's hard even pay bills you can't use above 3k coins in a day.You only pay once per month.
You need to find something to buy or help someone to buy.Maybe buy pgc ? sure you need petrol.

Been discuss before , not everyone read the t&c doc everyday for changes.Who knows when they change their t&c.Today say approve next week say not approve but never inform everyone about the approval.
Not only success login but successfully add cart , made payment , even able to go though bank CC , shope pay and other payment gate way.
I don't see why they can't add a code to block payment.As you say if those cheap android games can do it why not a big ecommerce apps can't.
It show how weak and effortless of a company not capable to produce a good apps.I check abit it's from singapore the apps created by Amulya Khare https://engineering.seagroup.com/author/amulyakhare/ .He seem quite capable but maybe the Shope ask not to do it.

No need if , just your student ID also can B/W, check back someone post a previous post.It use for visual identification but I doubt it just normal shope cs verify.

You mean your shope pay register using ic number only ? you didn't give body Scan IC on shope pay.?

last time credit back to bank account but now shope force all refund back to shope pay wallet https://help.shopee.com.my/my/s/article/Whe...d-1542971631536
So in other words , they force buyer/seller to use their shope pay.Now I think can report to mcmc for forcing $ refund back to their benefits.

I may not be experience on other ecommerce site , but can a refund back to their shope pay even if you didn't active their wallet ? If like that can consider reporting or email request to refund back to your bank cc.Even laz didn't do that if i remember.

What method of payment you use ? Try to request the refund back to your bank account or cc.

Shope is forcing everyone to use their wallet without your permission.You can report to mcmc because it involve $ .

This post has been edited by Maxieos: Nov 15 2019, 12:54 AM

It's also shope to check for stock issue.If it's not pre-order , stock above 1k for RM1k item = this shop store RM 1million for this phone only.Can consider cheat on stock in shope.Looks like shope also can't manage well on seller.
Let it auto cancel.Do not extend it.

Any reason given that they didn't allow deletion ? Do not give anything yet until they give a valid reason.
Yeh, try using the apps for request account deletion.

This post has been edited by Maxieos: Nov 15 2019, 01:13 AM

Eh did I read wrongly .It said , If use CC will refund back to CC.Any other CC will refund back to Shope Wallet.
It actually mean Debit card , 7-11 , Online Bank , Bank Transfer , TnG wallet , Bigpay and etc will all refund back to wallet even though you didn't active to wallet.
As for my opinion , it is more like manipulate income figures for their benefits.Normally those who get refund will need to active shope pay inorder to withdraw.Previously last year , I am happy to see they have a wallet feature better than laz which allow withdraw but as for now which they request of personal details , full body Scan IC.

They even set a limitation RM200 for checkout perday even on premium shope pay if you are using android 7.0 or lower.What kind of limitation is this ? for security ? or something else which they can hold your $$ ?.
How many able to checkout over RM200 at 11.11 using basic shope pay ?
Imo . i think they are somehow going overboard with all the changes t&c , commission increase ,limitation , force shope pay ,banned , request for body Scan in a short time or I could said this 4 months Jun until Nov.In 4 months changes is to much.No offend , just my opinion.
Anyway , Shope or laz CS both also tedious.I would rate both almost the same.Last time laz can send email and call but now only CS online chat.Does laz still accept calls at 03-26144168 ?

Cashback points ? you mean shope coins or bank CC cashback points ? amex card ? shope support amex card ? I though cannot.

Actually , rooted phone and emu not allow on shope pay.Emu will get you banned but you can made payment through which I think somehow it is weird , like at supermarket , Cashier allow you pay at counter but later a security guard block you and request your photo IC to confirm whether you are genuine buyer.
I don't know about laz because I never use rooted or emu on them so I can't compare them.

As for xprivacy , i think not maintain already and may not be able to get the module download on Xposed.Last heard is working on 6.0 but not sure because never install before.Also those who are not running 7.0 above shope pay will have limit rm200 for checkout.Shope pay rm500 checkout = android 7.0 =/= limit rm200 checkout.If no android 7.0 phone must buy a new phone.Another limitation.

Mostly I disagree is body scan IC privacy data collection.Giving out your CC , home address , phone number already consider data collection , now they even want IC , still fine but now Selfie .I still think it's fine since BNM came out the regulation on e-wallet selfie verification which shope want to follow compare to laz doesn't but shope going even more by requesting A user to do full Body Scan IC.

I never use shope pay , so I didn't active.As I know , basic is limit with RM500 but without Body Scan cannot top up ? so even you collect the voucher , you can't use the voucher where it need shope pay payment checkout.I am confuse.No BOdy Scan even getting voucher cannot use since wallet is empty.To top up wallet need to give out Body Scan IC ?
Then in future , they can stop all voucher on shope pay by changing their t&c and happily collect all your Photo IC and BOdy Scan.

Why now all free shipping and etc coins all only allow on shope pay. ?

Keep on promoting wallet reload but got limit force user to give out body scan.
Looks like shope wanted to make all buyer use cash than credit card.Bank will not do well on sales soon.

product below 500-1.5k with discount coins but must use shope pay = cash
product above 500-1.5k = cannot use shope pay = must use CC but no coins. or = no discount.Who is buying ?

Let discuss here ,
Previously coins is just a normal extra point because there is a cashback direct discount voucher until they convert cashback direct discount to Coin base.
But all the user here think it's fine without real direct discount voucher being replace to coins.
Now they went a step a head by adding restriction on coins

To further more , now all on shope pay only allow coins.

Looks like shope does not benefits buyer/seller or even themself at all in future.

Lucky malaysia still doesn't have Amazon or Ebay.If both are comes in , gg for shope.

Right now China product represent with Laz+tabaoo with free shipping most of them and laz even compensate for late delivery.
If Amazon comes in will represent most Electronic product cutting down distro price.GC and CPU.

Ebay comes = represent shope and gg for shope.Nothing better than paypal gateway than shope pay on down time reload and etc.
I can assume more than 80% Local Seller will go to ebay since seller can sell their product out of Malaysia to US.Provide with ebay/amazon having good policy and benefits both parties.

I hope our Minister will invite more ecommerce company to malaysia.More competitor = less monopolize.

Contact CS.Shope pay stuck sometimes and at 12.12 don't think on reloading.Their airpay sure will have problem again.Never solve before.

This post has been edited by Maxieos: Dec 10 2019, 11:39 PM

Sales will be low this year 12.12 for both laz and shope .
No milestone and etc.

Last 11.11 they already have a figure statistic on sales which will not do well.