Thanks waiting for someone to reply on this 3 milestone.
600k min spend 300 with 15% -
1mil min spend 80 with 20% -
2mil min spend 200 with 15% -

Keep some record , later know which is the best offer coming on 11.11

This post has been edited by Maxieos: Sep 9 2019, 09:34 PM

Sorry type wrongly, should be 1.5mil.

recorded as

200k min spend 100 with 15% - max 2000 coins
400k min spend 65 with RM8 - RM8
600k min spend 300 with 15% - 5000 coins
800k 3pm with 900k Shake coins
1mil min spend 80 with 20% - 1800 coins

1.5mil min spend 200 with 15% - ?
2mil free 1 shipping.
2.5mil -

This post has been edited by Maxieos: Sep 9 2019, 09:51 PM

yeh , really funny.2.5mil only get RM5 off ?

So what is the 1.5mil min spend 200 with 15% - ?

I also don't know the android emulator also breach tnc.I think they think as an emu as Spam.
Yeh , shope should not limit user from using emu device , not everyone have a good phone.Installing on emu much stable than a phone when comes to hardware.

First , not allow but why does the system detect and banned immediately.Banned is a serious matter.Warning with email 1st than only banned.Not straight banned.
If shope doesn't want user to install on emu , just disable the emu from installing or block it.Why banned ? weird.

But does an android box consider a emu ? I saw my friend install shope apps on android box since he said easy for parents to see because the TV is large enough than a phone or a monitor.



There is also one thing to ask , anyone expert in T&C changes here ?

As I know when register on the TnC never mention cannot use and at 5th August i saw below it change it.Can they just banned without informing ?
expert voncrane can explain ?

This post has been edited by Maxieos: Sep 10 2019, 12:26 AM

I think you quote the wrong person , https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4653573/+6080# JokerAce mention his phone hang , and I believe most of use do.My Phone also hang often got apps install.

I really don't know about your Samsung Note 3 , 6 years phone , maybe you only clear install and install only shope apps.No other apps.

Edit: I double check your samsung galaxy note 3 is very high end and expensive.You buy 2nd phone ? .I think at 2013 , not everyone got 1 smart phone also.
Even samsung phone below RM500 now selling don't have 3 GB of ram and 32GB rom.More over Snapdragon 800.Most mediatek phone cannot beat Snapdragon

About the emu , my pc understanding , emu is actually a PC.Running on emu = PC.Why we are not allow to run ? Did shope said I cannot run on PC browser too ?

Btw , you really read the whole thing tnc ?.Normally i am sure more than 90% people register shope didn't read or even understand.We are not lawyer or some expert , that is why I ask you as an expert to explain more information about the rules.

Even I read the section you post and bold part I also don't understand much.What does it related with emu ? If the account is not yours how you can login.
I don't know much , you reply is very serious looking.Why you are so angry ? you work for shope ? really ?

This post has been edited by Maxieos: Sep 10 2019, 05:06 PM

I never know shope this serious go banning as they like.Not informing , not telling just banned because they detect something funny.
They should have warning , I will tell my friend not to use but really no guarantee they will not ban everyone.Should post at FB and inform everyone shope ban people like this for awareness.

So you need to reply the email to unban ? how did you reply ? it looks like it request many thing.

Shope so straight ? need so many things when got banned , summit all the personal info.Need even IC or Photo also ?
As I know only Bank and Telco required personal info.

Previously , I mention before , shope think you as a Spam running bots so they auto banned you.If you call to CS I think you no need to submit or oath anything.Anyway , it is really hassle too , calling, need to wait for CS verify listen to music and wait.
Good to know you are unbanned , it is not a serious case as they think wrongly.When you register to shope account ? this month ?

I still think shope should not banned people like this.They should go banned those Seller from China more selling fake SDcard and pendrive.I saw a lot of report seller is fine.Looks like shope helping more the seller and not the buyer ?

This post has been edited by Maxieos: Sep 10 2019, 07:37 PM

You quote me again ? this morning I no time to reply long post , now only got time.
I already mention previously.No need to get so serious.
It's just a discussion , now you even add in about dupes.I never even mention about it.You are discussion out of topic.
It'll be the last I explain and maybe a long reading.

I break it like this easier to understand my reply before.

1. Shope never mention to user cannot use emu
2. Using emu is normal for dev, if the apps dev don't want , they can easily block from installing.
3. It is up to shope using which way to stop buyer using emu.
- Straight No warning and banned
- Warning with email first the request buyer seller to stop using
- Shope Dev can block apps install on emu
- Shope Dev can create a reminder when user login into their apps
4. Just discussing shope is too straight on banning buyer in simple matter rather than taking time to find fake seller.

I break it like this easier for me to understand your reply.

1. Too serious and angry on this case
2. You keep mention about dupes topic and not related on emu
3. You keep mention play fair comparison.



As for my reply

1. Using the words fair is not suitable rather use a word "Give and Take"
2. If shope want to banned , they can give any reason not limited to dupe or emu.They can come out with any reason.I just discuss on why not informing user but you pushing a lot of info to me. I am also regular buyer which have less knowledge but you like scolding me.
3. I didn't know you did a hard work reading the tnc , I apologize if I offended your hardwork or anything related.
4. On emu bold part you mention.
-Emu is nothing as you mention until so unfair.As if you telling everyone using it to play games is unfair for everyone.Emu vs Phone unfair then what about PC vs Console can consider unfair since PC can use mouse while console cannot use mouse ? .
-The emu you show that it promote 6x times faster , everyone know it's just a advertise , why not you try running some game vs your samsung note 3 see whether you get 6x faster a not.All depends on game and hardware of your emu or your phone.
6. I never use the emu before and don't know much how this Multi instance work.As you also know , most android device allow to create extra multiple profile https://www.howtogeek.com/333484/how-to-set...les-on-android/ and you can switch the profile to play games with different Name.


I think this discussion should end.Summary on shope would be ,

"Ignore buyer complain and a straight rules banning on buyer side but leave loop hole on the certain rules and less enforce on fake seller by allowing them to sell fake product"

I don't know how much of you agree with it but all are just my opinion.Sorry if I offended anyone.

If JokerAce is a student rm250-300 is a lot .Some other reason such no enough money , loan and etc in this few month ? Since s/he said just register shope last Jun or July.Who knows shope banned user like this.Didn't s/he mention his phone lag and not like you wanted to buy a new phone immediately just for shope.
Shope post a lot of limitation on Desktop user where you can't use coin , no free shipping can apply , no cashback and etc.The only way to is to use emu.
You like to use word unfair.Does using a Desktop with limitation fair for you vs apps ?

All way round is somehow with different opinion between you and me.In the first place , if shope warn or tell or even remind JokerAce that account will get banned if using emu , will s/he continue ? surely not.Not only you , everyone will not using emu for shope.

Too bad , shope never inform user , shope allow user to pass through installation on emu and shope allow user to made payment.
Why shope does not block user to made payment or installing? The only reason is they allow you to run emu.They never mention you cannot run emu and never update and telling user about the tnc change on emu.
This is what we are discussing on emu

I don't know why it's so hard for you to understand.1 word , shope never inform about not allow emu.

Didn't I told you previously shope never inform on tnc change ?
The "Never Inform on TnC and Privacy Policy changes"

Happy Deepavali , been busy lately.
I have a few question confuse on shope delivery.

1. Now they give out different type of free shipping , very confuse , how to apply.
Got , like all seller , mall and 11.How much does it actually give out ? every one of it ? I see all seller only got 2.

2. How many voucher type ? last time only got 3 , Shope coins cashback , direct voucher % , Bank voucher and merchant/shop/mall own voucher.
But now no more Direct voucher only coins cashback but now got new type of voucher Only can use for shope pay ?

beside ,
3. What is Shope pay lately ? is the shope wallet ? what is the different between both ? can withdraw after topup ? like laz need to close account only can withdraw out.
How long does it allow to keep the topup $ ?

soonwai I saw your post of still not fully understand the how many free shipping and voucher type given.

As on my voucher list , it's just 2 All seller , no mall voucher.Which mean , now shope only give out 2 free voucher every month for all seller ? This is bad move.

From 7 free shipping to 2 and maybe reduce to none later on.I am not surprise they are going to be like laz soon.

btw , Why all coin cashback voucher need to active shopeepay ?

This post has been edited by Maxieos: Oct 28 2019, 09:00 PM

Now getting lesser and lesser.Soon maybe no more free shipping like laz.Then better change to laz since laz have better return if got problem.No need to pay for shipping return and trouble to email to shope.
The only problem is seller at laz does not change and reduce the price even no commission.

Why do they suspend if your family member if they are real user ? you mean it happen on 11.11 last year or current 11.11 promotion ?

I also wonder why does shope pay need to limit RM500.If I have a product over rm500 adding all at sales 11.11 means I can't use shope pay ?

I also worry about the data leak.Remember gem5 once ? all of our address and phone number and we also don't know CC all leak out.
Shope never mention they will follow all the malaysia data protection rules at all.No guarantee and they can change the T&C and allow 3rd party to use your IC.

What I worry most is = shope pay = laz wallet.

What if you topup fully 1.5k today Oct 30 then sudden without informing every user , shope follow laz next month 1st of Nov Change the T&C to ( Cannot Withdraw ) from wallet.
Then gg your $ inside forever until use up or delete account.

High possibility all will go Shope Pay only voucher.Now they keep on promotion wallet for voucher but I think this kind of promotion will only last not long.
1. Max limit , if I plan to buy a TV surely cannot use
2. Give out IC , who will give out your Own IC to some shope website.Not like laz because laz is own by Aliba trusted with alipay.Even now alipay wallet also not doing well in malaysia.
3. No guarantee they will give out your IC to other 3rd party people.
4. No guarantee they will not change T&C to cannot withdraw your money.
5. Finally , who can guarantee after you give out your IC then they stop giving out voucher ? like laz now , not even 1 voucher give out and very rare and less.

Summary , Bait you with voucher , give IC , then stop voucher , stop withdraw and now they have all your IC in their hand.They have all your $$ in hand to invest since you cannot withdraw.

Yes , now all need to use ic to work as wallet.
But problem is whether shope follow the data protection rules is a different question.I mean data leak out.
It's like a trade , give out your IC to get Shope pay and they give out some voucher.Whether you think it worth it or not depends on you all.
The last problem is , whether shope will continue giving out free voucher with shope pay is a different matter.

Situation as mention before , Maybe be possible
1. lure user give out IC for Voucher exchange.
2. Then stop voucher and also do not allow user to withdraw money from wallet.
3. Possible even increase commission so product price will also increase and remove free shipping too = nothing to buy.
4. Now they got your info and IC , got your money trap at wallet and they can use your trap money.
5. If shope not doing well , transfer or merge or going down , all your info will also go to the wrong hands if they doesn't have Data protection rules.

The most sensitive among all is IC.Without cross , full color snap photo to them , even bank copy your IC with photostat with cross.
Don't mistaken , give out IC number only (poslaju) and whole IC Copy photostat with cross is different.Whole IC photostat with cross is different compare to Whole IC Photo taken without cross with Color.The most risk ever have.
As mention before only a few organization allow to gather photostat or full color IC which is Telco , Hospital , register G0v sector , TM/Water/Electric Bills and Banks.



Singapore also ban any Organization collection and request your IC and mark as illegal.
https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/asean-busi...y-cards-will-be
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/regional/20...al-in-singapore

Until I see shope show with Malaysia Data Protection 709 rules on T&C with certified by G0v , it's a risk to give out IC.
Or until our Minister comes up to Digital Identification , can consider safe.

Not that you cannot give , but is a risky and weird is why Shope promote shope pay ? which required IC ? Marketing ? Collection your info ?

Anyway , Sometimes even telco or g0v get leak out news https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSmaNJC6k-U , more over shope without any Data Protection rules.

Just becareful.

Now need to active with ic but soon you will also have to active using ic when shope change their t&c later on.

I don't know much about their system detect things are quite un-organize.They should inform on unusual activity before get suspend.If it's on office address , I wonder will they suspend where there are more than 13 free shipping use at once on sales.
I am sure a lot using same company address for delivery.

They should not request for MyKads , actually it's illegal in SG.If you give , you should photostat and cross it.At lease they can ask you to blur it.If not , you must not give out IC easily.

So, all the account suspend cannot check out ? If suspend if i remember a forum user said totally cannot login.
So now they lift up 1 user can have 2 accounts after IC submited ? but must different address ?

This post has been edited by Maxieos: Nov 1 2019, 12:39 AM

They said about having permission is referring to gateway like Alipay.Shope pay is using AirPay Malaysia Sdn. Bhd as gate way but shope themself doesn't have Data Protection Rules for requesting IC .AirPay is a non-bank regulatee of Bank Negara Malaysia.http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=ps&pg=ps_regulatees
Both party got your IC info
- Shope as a middle apps store your IC info into their DB.
- AirPay gateway keep and verify your IC info into their DB as transaction.

Adding it up , Shope have more info than AirPay.They already have your HP number , Address , Name , IC , Photo and may even have your whole family member if your family member register on shope apps on Shope Pay.

As for comparison , laz is using Alipay Malaysia Sdn. Bhd. (formerly known as helloPay Malaysia Sdn. Bhd.) at lease Alipay is wellknown all around the world after takeover.Even at that time , no IC required.

Your shope wallet automatically upgrade to shope pay without telling you https://help.shopee.com.my/my/s/article/Wha...et-to-ShopeePay


If you provide other IC screenshots like touch and go , grab pay or Boost.All of those are base company specify e-wallet in Malaysia are use to pay for our daily usage.Anything you can ask their company. http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=ps&pg=ps_nonbank_emoney
But as for shope is a bit different.By my understand , shope is a Company separated with their Pay system own by other company AirPay as gateway like laz Alipay.If payment stuck or not going through , they need to verify from AirPay then to shope.If you got use Laz before sure knows Alipay.

But what I feel really weird for shope required something taking photo as like this picture below.Really any regulation required selfie with IC from Bank to take photo and your face like this ?
Did their T&C said need to selfie.



https://youtu.be/saV27tiHgrA?t=103 (Video from Shope indonesia I think it's the same with us)
https://shopee-help.force.com/my/s/article/...-I-verify-my-IC

All are without cross ,full color and your live selfie photo and etc.Really feel weird , it is not like we are some criminal...
If Singapore g0v Data Protection see this kind of way , I think they willl flag this action as illegal.

This post has been edited by Maxieos: Nov 2 2019, 09:15 PM

Yeh , I know , july grab already start with selfie verification so with other ewallet touch and go and etc.The basic biometric verifications is thumbprint with IC now extend to selfie verification for digital.
Sorry , please don't get me wrong.A Selfie verification and A Selfie verification holding own IC is different.I didn't search very deep but does Shope have Data Protection Act 709 ? If not , it is expose to 3rd party.In other words , they didn't have a set of malaysia data protect rules 709 form keeping our info not getting leak out.

Example : victim where info get leak to let someone sign something or loan something with your IC info.
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2015...-under-his-name

I am asking here only , maybe will call to confirm.Anyway
It's mandatory for e-wallet like Maybank MAE issue by MSB to all ewallet on Photo selfie verification but not selfie holding your own IC like that.Like i said , a bit weird.Just wanted public to aware of safety risk giving out IC and Photo without 709 Act and get misused.

Normally a selfie is a face recognition or something like face unlock to confirm an individual digitally.but holding an IC can't actually do any face recognition.It's not possible.Also not every phone front facing camera have auto focus ,how do they focus on the IC number or Face recognition ?
I think , It's technically more like Shope CS people self confirm though by looking at your picture and not a standard.Without using a visual cryptography for privacy is more expose.It means Shope CS can get hold of your photo.

Try google e-kyc.Implementation Guidance on e-KYC http://www.bnm.gov.my/index.php?ch=57&pg=146&ac=651&bb=file
I think the standard is this
I never use bigpay card.Bigpay have issue a prepaid physical Mastercard required selfie but does it required you holding an IC ?
As far as I know , even Maybank MBE ewallet just need selfie.

Selfie is a digital biometric authentication by a Visual Registration combining both IC Photo with your current Selfie Face using a visual engine whether both are match.
If really holding an IC to selfie means more on physical people to verify your face not in a standard digitally.