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post Sep 6 2018, 11:05 AM, updated 8y ago

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So basically this is my first time trying to polish bare wood. And after consulting uncle Google I decided to try IKEA Behandla beeswax polish.

I followed the instructions, sand my wood, even apply some moisture on the sanded wood because the instructions says it's better like that. Then apply the beeswax and wait for it to dry.

The beeswax itself is white liquid colour, however after leaving the wood to dry, the colour turned so yellow I don't even recognize it anymore. Was it my problem, or it's the nature of beeswax to turn the wood colour yellowish?? I understand that polishing will make the wood color turn darker but this is not "darker", it's yellower...


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post Sep 6 2018, 11:22 AM

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From the picture itself shows the yellowish tint result.

https://www.ikea.com/my/en/catalog/products/50329052/

You should use this one

https://www.ikea.com/my/en/catalog/products/00184674/

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post Sep 6 2018, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(czhog @ Sep 6 2018, 11:05 AM)
So basically this is my first time trying to polish bare wood. And after consulting uncle Google I decided to try IKEA Behandla beeswax polish.

I followed the instructions, sand my wood, even apply some moisture on the sanded wood because the instructions says it's better like that. Then apply the beeswax and wait for it to dry.

The beeswax itself is white liquid colour, however after leaving the wood to dry, the colour turned so yellow I don't even recognize it anymore. Was it my problem, or it's the nature of beeswax to turn the wood colour yellowish?? I understand that polishing will make the wood color turn darker but this is not "darker", it's yellower...
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Most the wood after polished it will more bright won't darker , if you want darker go hardware shop buy a acrylic or ppl usually call crylic after they remove the A, if you want the darker color for outdoor in Malaysia apply epoxy or solvent color paint , or just use any oil apply to surface sure will be yellow and period of time will go dark or water flush away and you need apply again since environment issue , example like you see those mechanic wood they use so black mostly absorb engine oil or type other oil and dirty , when the wood moisture dry eventually from white become yellow , if you saw those wood so white mostly have been bleach , example like daily milk you see white after boil and chemical reaction become yellow



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post Sep 6 2018, 11:25 AM

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bought IVAR rack some time ago.
The rack look pale in color.
After applying ikea beewax ( i think I apply 2 coat) the rack looks nicer and yes it is yellowish.
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post Sep 6 2018, 11:29 AM

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If u want natural colour, just apply 2 coats of water based PU. Need to sand in between coats with 180 to 500 grit sandpaper.
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post Sep 6 2018, 11:35 AM

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Is it same ? This is what I use.

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post Sep 6 2018, 11:38 AM

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i think its normal
no way it will remain the same color after you apply wax or oil
just like you soak it in water, it will change color too
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post Sep 6 2018, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 6 2018, 11:38 AM)
i think its normal
no way it will remain the same color after you apply wax or oil
just like you soak it in water, it will change color too
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I think he buy the wrong color.
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post Sep 6 2018, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 6 2018, 11:56 AM)
I think he buy the wrong color.
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should buy white like yours.
cannot be like the natural color but close
even if you dont do anything, the wood will gets darker as it ages

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post Sep 6 2018, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(idoblu @ Sep 6 2018, 11:59 AM)
should buy white like yours.
cannot be like the natural color but close
even if you dont do anything, the wood will gets darker as it ages
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I do brought a wrong color at 1st. Didn't see the top sample sticker.

Bring back and exchange.

But advise not use this Ikea coat paint. After 2 yrs, can see the result. Some stain and mold. Hard to clean the dirt also.

Better use Satin wood or just leave it bare.
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post Sep 6 2018, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 6 2018, 12:09 AM)
But advise not use this Ikea coat paint. After 2 yrs, can see the result. Some stain and mold. Hard to clean the dirt also.
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Same. Used this paint for my mom's garden chair (about a year ago) and now it looks like it's covered with stains. Disappointing dry.gif
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post Sep 6 2018, 07:16 PM

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Apply oil will be nicer.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 6 2018, 12:09 PM)
I do brought a wrong color at 1st. Didn't see the top sample sticker.

Bring back and exchange.

But advise not use this Ikea coat paint. After 2 yrs, can see the result. Some stain and mold. Hard to clean the dirt also.

Better use Satin wood or just leave it bare.
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Lucky I didn’t use. Was going to paint the ikea bed.
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post Sep 12 2018, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(eclectice @ Sep 6 2018, 11:22 AM)
From the picture itself shows the yellowish tint result.

https://www.ikea.com/my/en/catalog/products/50329052/

You should use this one

https://www.ikea.com/my/en/catalog/products/00184674/
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yeah I figured out maybe I should get that, but didn't find it when I was in IKEA rclxub.gif

QUOTE(zuozi @ Sep 6 2018, 11:24 AM)
Most the wood after polished it will more bright won't darker , if you want darker go hardware shop buy a acrylic or ppl usually call crylic after they remove the A,  if you want the darker color for outdoor in Malaysia apply epoxy or solvent color paint , or just use any oil apply to surface sure will be yellow and period of time will go dark or water flush away and you need apply again since environment issue , example like you see those mechanic wood they use so black mostly absorb engine oil or type other oil and dirty , when the wood moisture dry eventually from white become yellow , if you saw those wood so white mostly have been bleach , example like daily milk you see white after boil and chemical reaction become yellow
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really?? I didn't want to become brighter or darker, but just not this yellow, this is not wood at all, feels so banana...

QUOTE(okboon15 @ Sep 6 2018, 11:25 AM)
bought IVAR rack some time ago.
The rack look pale in color.
After applying ikea beewax ( i think I apply 2 coat) the rack looks nicer and yes it is yellowish.
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after 1 coating I already cannot accept the yellowish colour
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post Sep 12 2018, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(acbc @ Sep 6 2018, 11:29 AM)
If u want natural colour, just apply 2 coats of water based PU. Need to sand in between coats with 180 to 500 grit sandpaper.
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where to get water based PU? I went to check Ace Hardware, all are oil based

QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 6 2018, 12:09 PM)
I do brought a wrong color at 1st. Didn't see the top sample sticker.

Bring back and exchange.

But advise not use this Ikea coat paint. After 2 yrs, can see the result. Some stain and mold. Hard to clean the dirt also.

Better use Satin wood or just leave it bare.
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yours is white stain paint, I prefer to coat it with a transparent one so that the wood colour is still there

the white paint now is strained and moldy?

QUOTE(dan1el86 @ Sep 6 2018, 05:31 PM)
Same. Used this paint for my mom's garden chair (about a year ago) and now it looks like it's covered with stains. Disappointing  dry.gif
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Do you mind sharing a photo of the current chair paint?

wow I thought IKEA stuffs are meant to last longer...good thing I haven't start applying
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post Sep 12 2018, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(weikee @ Sep 6 2018, 07:16 PM)
Apply oil will be nicer.
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In the end I bought teak oil I found from Ace hardware, haven't tried, but hope not another weird color that I cannot accept.. sweat.gif
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post Sep 12 2018, 02:54 PM

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aw man you ppl got all the wrong info

any bare wood when stained (your term polished) will change color to a varying degree.
Imagine just using water on bare wood, the color will darken abit, so how would you get a stain that doesnt change the color of the grain?!

The putih is paint, its a different thing.
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QUOTE(czhog @ Sep 12 2018, 10:19 AM)
where to get water based PU? I went to check Ace Hardware, all are oil based
yours is white stain paint, I prefer to coat it with a transparent one so that the wood colour is still there

the white paint now is strained and moldy?
Do you mind sharing a photo of the current chair paint?

wow I thought IKEA stuffs are meant to last longer...good thing I haven't start applying
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Some ACE hardware has MINWAX water based PU. But the price rm160 per liter...
Another water based clear coat can buy from hardware store, forget the brand. Looks milky when wet then will clear up when dry. But still yellowish in color.
Later I go home take picture of the water based coat.
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QUOTE(czhog @ Sep 12 2018, 10:21 AM)
In the end I bought teak oil I found from Ace hardware, haven't tried, but hope not another weird color that I cannot accept.. sweat.gif
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Oil just bring up the wood color. If you need the wood to be another color before oiling, you need to stained the wood.
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QUOTE(czhog @ Sep 6 2018, 11:05 AM)
So basically this is my first time trying to polish bare wood. And after consulting uncle Google I decided to try IKEA Behandla beeswax polish.

I followed the instructions, sand my wood, even apply some moisture on the sanded wood because the instructions says it's better like that. Then apply the beeswax and wait for it to dry.

The beeswax itself is white liquid colour, however after leaving the wood to dry, the colour turned so yellow I don't even recognize it anymore. Was it my problem, or it's the nature of beeswax to turn the wood colour yellowish?? I understand that polishing will make the wood color turn darker but this is not "darker", it's yellower...
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Linseed oil, Wood oil, Lead free drying agent, Emulsifier

cannot leh.. it has linseed oil. it will turn yellow.

you need white pigments for white washing style. ikea should have it also. but still its oil based.

anyway, if no pigments, you need polycrylic (waterbased poly) wont turn yellow.

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QUOTE(czhog @ Sep 12 2018, 10:21 AM)
In the end I bought teak oil I found from Ace hardware, haven't tried, but hope not another weird color that I cannot accept.. sweat.gif
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will be yellow also leh. teak oil makes it more brown infact lol

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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 6 2018, 11:35 AM)
Is it same ? This is what I use.

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this is white pigmented stain leh. of course will turn white. laugh.gif
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post Sep 14 2018, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(ijan @ Sep 12 2018, 02:54 PM)
aw man you ppl got all the wrong info

any bare wood when stained (your term polished) will change color to a varying degree.
Imagine just using water on bare wood, the color will darken abit, so how would you get a stain that doesnt change the color of the grain?!

The putih is paint, its a different thing.
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QUOTE(weikee @ Sep 12 2018, 05:32 PM)
Oil just bring up the wood color. If you need the wood to be another color before oiling, you need to stained the wood.
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I think you guys got me wrong, I actually don't mind the wood turning colour into darker (like kena water) or brownish. I just cannot accept that IKEA Behandla Beeswax turned it into a banana colour rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(yushin @ Sep 12 2018, 04:47 PM)
Some ACE hardware has MINWAX water based PU. But the price rm160 per liter...
Another water based clear coat can buy from hardware store, forget the brand. Looks milky when wet then will clear up when dry. But still yellowish in color.
Later I go home take picture of the water based coat.
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Please do share, just in case my teak oil turn out bad, I can get a new solution haha

QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 12 2018, 08:54 PM)
Linseed oil, Wood oil, Lead free drying agent, Emulsifier

cannot leh.. it has linseed oil. it will turn yellow.

you need white pigments for white washing style. ikea should have it also. but still its oil based.

anyway, if no pigments, you need polycrylic (waterbased poly) wont turn yellow.

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so I need to find something with no linseed oil to prevent that weird yellow colour?

QUOTE(ar188 @ Sep 12 2018, 08:55 PM)
will be yellow also leh. teak oil makes it more brown infact lol
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I am not sure, but brown sounds better to me than yellow. yellow does not look like natural wood at all sweat.gif
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post Sep 14 2018, 10:05 AM

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Nicora water based wood sheen.
http://www.nicora.com.my/v2/index.php/2013...-gold/woodsheen
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QUOTE(czhog @ Sep 14 2018, 09:58 AM)
I think you guys got me wrong, I actually don't mind the wood turning colour into darker (like kena water) or brownish. I just cannot accept that IKEA Behandla Beeswax turned it into a banana colour rclxub.gif
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diff oil base/type will result in a diff color. Put few more layers and it will change darker.
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QUOTE(czhog @ Sep 14 2018, 10:01 AM)
Please do share, just in case my teak oil turn out bad, I can get a new solution haha
so I need to find something with no linseed oil to prevent that weird yellow colour?
I am not sure, but brown sounds better to me than yellow. yellow does not look like natural wood at all sweat.gif
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well yeah, yellow looks old fashion. light brown or medium brown is way better.
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Hi after few more coat the colour will be darker ..

Mine like this.. basically some oil type .. Attached Image Attached Image

I use it for ikea table top.. Attached Image
Sorry can’t find after and before ..
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Is depend what is the purpose and resistance you need too.
You can applied lemon oil or PU.

Most local hardware shop call PU as varnish. You can also burn the surface and sand it prior applied PU to bring out the grain.

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PU will more water resistance but the surface will feel like acrylic compares to lemon oil.

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QUOTE(chamelion @ Jan 5 2019, 11:14 PM)
Is depend what is the purpose and resistance you need too.
You can applied lemon oil or PU.

Most local hardware shop call PU as varnish. You can also burn the surface and sand it prior applied PU to bring out the grain.

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PU will more water resistance but the surface will feel like acrylic compares to lemon oil.
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This wan will turn yellowish after some yrs. And not matt white like satin.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Jan 5 2019, 11:19 PM)
This wan will turn yellowish after some yrs. And not matt white like satin.
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i have one can, still new, cos its gloss (not matt) so i didnt really use it, cos not a fan of gloss.
open inside is the color of yellow cooking oil fluid. biggrin.gif so i dont think you need years to make it yellow. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(chamelion @ Jan 5 2019, 11:14 PM)


PU will more water resistance but the surface will feel like acrylic compares to lemon oil.
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lemon oil has zero protection. PU has very good protection against scratches

 

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