i've 4 dogs atm,and sometimes they can be quite noisy.
none of them have a license atm..

1 medium size(husky),3 toy dogs.(ckcs,2 Pomeranians),soon 1 more ckcs will arrive..

if my neighbours complain,can mbpj come and forcefully take my dogs away?

they remain in my house at all times(unless going for walks,in which i accompany them) so can the council people force their way into my house and take my dogs away?

how about if i have a license?
it's my understanding that only 2 dogs are allowed per household(or something like that) and so i cant buy license for all of my dogs.if i have 2 licenses for 2 dogs,can the others be taken away?

This post has been edited by Mgsrulz: May 28 2007, 02:39 PM

Corner lot house allows 4 dogs. In between, only 2 dogs. From what i see, they never check their database or cross reference how many dogs you have atm. Just try and apply at diff time. Dont la go and apply 4 at the same time.

About coming into the house and do whatever they want, by law, they must have warrant to enter and search your house. But as usual, with this kinda country, they can do whtever they want

as I know you will be fined....

and what u mean husky is medium size? I believe they are large breeds....

why u having so many dogs at the first place?

so, we're only restricted to having 2 dogs at a time??? Kenot have more than a dog at home ?? What kinda law is this!!! LAME!

Whether the dogs has license or not, as long as it interrupts the sorrounding peace (noisy, poo everywhere) then neighbours can complaint and officials can do something about it....

Btw i heard last time they shoot the dogs inside the house compound.....

Can they do it even if they do not have a warrant?
that would be considered breaking an entry and destruction of property no?

even when 1 dog barks also can be so noisy let alone 2 dogs... and if more than 2 dogs bark together then it can be 'disaster' lor... juz imagine what is ur neighbour feel la when the dogs make noise especially to those who live in terrace houses... unless u have big compound surrounding ur house then maybe the 'sound effect' wont be that much la... so need to think of surrounding people also la... we live in community right...? and one more thing... most law are made for reasons... juz my 2-cent...

This post has been edited by arraille: May 28 2007, 02:59 PM

exactly what is written on the license tags?
if i were to register with a friend's address,would it matter?

so by law,i can opt NOT to let them in my house,right?

no,they are medium sized

Wiki

im not going to have 30+ like my cats,but just as a hobby.

each person in my house has one,so 4 of us,each one..(though my mother has 2 )

this can be considered good,in this country..
some states max 1,IINM

would that include dogs with license?

he mentioned already...

^ oops didnt see

Hi TS, you must applied license, if people complain and MBPJ come.. then u know... remember the shooting case ...?? jajajaja

assuming i do as nairud said,and by some stroke of bad luck,they actually become rajin and check their database..

and they find out i have more than 2 in my house,can they take my dogs away?

and because i have broken that "2 dogs per household" rule,would they still need a warrant?

not really sure about the warrant but if ur caught red handed breaking the rules... then action can be taken according to the law...

Got such things ar?
i thought In SG only they had to apply license?
There are so many dogs w/out license in msia, how to catch ?
juz wondering how to apply?
if 1 dog only need to apply also?

This post has been edited by ^MochI^: May 28 2007, 03:35 PM

Register 2 at your house and the others use relatives house address...

Then use the execuse that they're boarding with you while your relatives are overseas

This post has been edited by aaronpang: May 28 2007, 03:37 PM

i never borther to apply for license...as most of the time my toy breed dog will be in the hse~and in my opnion i think the restriction is good in a way that pet lovers can reallyyy pay attention to their pets and also lessen chances ppl breeding huge amount dogs for profit gain but again who is the rite to judge how many dogs when some cant even pay attention to only 1 pet wherelse show owners have few dogs at their home and take good care of them...

That rule is vague at best and I should be allowed to keep as many pets as I can responsibly take care!

Some houses although rumah teres has a huge corner garden so I should be allowed to have more than a teres house with smaller corner gardens!

If I can't keep 4 dogs then some men should not have 4 wives.

why must u compare animals and human...? mind to elaborate about that '4 wives'... sounds like u bringing some issue here... i'm warning u not to play with religious issue here ok... if u are unable to use ur brain wisely enough, don't bother to share the rubbish inside... get it...?

This post has been edited by arraille: May 28 2007, 04:03 PM

I got 4 rottweiler n didn't apply liecense... Kept more than 6years
Who care ?!!!

What's wrong with it...!!??

All great truths begin as blasphemies. Don't like what I have to say, counter it!

what's wrong with it...? u ask me that...? now u tell me what has that '4-dogs' issue got to do with ur '4-wives' comparison...?

p/s: pm me if u dare to reply... don't keep on off topic here...

This post has been edited by arraille: May 28 2007, 04:24 PM

bwahahahahahaahahahaha......

another dispute......hmmmm.......

from dog license to 4 wives....

pretty interesting......

i believe that it all boils down to luck. If u are lucky, u get open minded muslim staying as your neighbor who supports neighbors having dogs around to act as an alarm and if you are DAMN UNLUCKY, u get chinese who hates dogs and complain on every single bark.....

I also dun think it has got anything to do with religion....it is more of human behavior......

btw, religion is so vague and widely misinterpreted these days.....

sigh.......

Now someone wanna talk about dogs making noise when there's strangers around the neighbourhood?

Keep those damn cats at home and spay/neuter them i'd say. No more meowing at nites when they're on heat. No more pooping at neighbour's car porch, no more scratching on ppl's car.

i like this idead

Yeah, some Malays like dog very much but they unable to keep it
I agree with you...It's more on human and pets relationship

Why do PM ? Debate here...interesting I'm not putting fire...Share with us..

sorry to all u guys... not my intention to create scene here, but i really can't tolerate if people 'playing' around with my religion... mostly everybody know only muslim man can have until 4 wives... BUT only IF he is capable to be equal, otherwise it's A BIG SINS...

and which is better do u think... having 4 wives legally or 1 wife + 3 girlfriends/mistresses...?

actually i agree fully with nairud...

most of these cats keepers...really irresponsible...suka buang those ikan out of the window behind the alley and the cat will be there...if not come over to other people's place...

then the cat beranak mati, the kittens also still suckling on the dead mother's teats....i have to bring them in to handfeed. At the end also cannot survive....

so much inconvenienced caused...

So it still boils down to pets keeping by brainless or those with brain....

and this is also HUMAN ERROR problem......

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if need to answer the 4 wives questions...

why must have mistresses in the first place?

if not gatal then be faithful...life is not all about sex and wives only.....

hmmmmmmm.....

so if it is a must to have 4 wives rather than mistresses, is it advocating that must have lotsa sex?

it is very unfair to post the question. Better to have 4 wives or mistresses does not justify anything.....

at the end of the day it is like blackmailing...if u dun let me marry 4, i go have 4 mistress.....

so no matter must have 4 wives already....

sorry if i misunderstand ur question.....

This post has been edited by sangterap: May 28 2007, 05:09 PM

I asked you what's wrong coz you seem to think there is a problem... if you can't tell me for a fact where I've strayed, you have absolutely no point of contention!

You don't even know what your complains are get clue!

Reading without reflecting is like eating without digesting.

Mgsrulz so sorry for OT'ing your thread..

This post has been edited by aaronpang: May 28 2007, 05:06 PM

u got pm bro...

okok....

back to topic....

conclusion, better just get license whether ur number of dogs exceed the allowed number....

it is only RM10 per dog per year....go MBPJ and get only....easy.....

just get it done lar....better be safe than sorry....

a muslim man can only have more than 1 wife (not necessarily 4) if he is capable of being equal... this is the option that been given to them to avoid any 'improper' relationship... and that comes with HUGE responsibilty... even they are allowed to do so... there so many rules and regulation that need to be followed... otherwise it's a BIG SINS... that's why not every man is able to have more than 1 wife...

i admit that sometimes there are few men are taking advantage of this... and some is still cheating even have more than 1 wife... but human is human right... most of them tend to break the rules... that's why GOD created heaven and hell...

p/s: sorry if i hurt anybody's feeling here... please don't prolong this issue anymore... if got any questions feel free to pm me... this is not the right forum...

This post has been edited by arraille: May 28 2007, 06:05 PM

we in malaysia got many races and religious...so please respect each other..even in a forum..
sory for outtopic..i drop here just to explain..bcause maybe there is some missunderstanding..and for muslims, its our responsibility to explain to all people about our religion..
whats arraille explain is right..the four wives issue has its own disscussion in our religious law...one who want to have four, have to fullfill many condition or syarat2...e.g justice,have kemampuan to support four wives..and so on..
intrepetation of the holy Quran: " you can married woman that you want two, three or four..but if you you cannot do the justice between them, one is enough.."

and dog in our religion actually is a sensitive issue... it is not good to compare like that..many of us know Muslim when touch dog..have to wash seven time, one of it with air tanah..but it doesnt mean Muslims can do bad thing on dog...dog also like other creature must be respected..must not be neglected...the prophet told us story about a man who enter the paradise just because he help a thirsty dog to get water..

i hope the condition will be peace forever here...

so back to the topic la hehehe

This post has been edited by kembara: May 28 2007, 07:01 PM

they not oni can take ur dog away, but also kill them in front of u.
i posted the news in dog lover's kopitiam, but its a lil old.
they broke into da house n killed all da dogs wif the owner's sister looking.

i don think they'll go check bac da who's having how many dogs thingy, but i agree wif aaronpang's idea of da relatiove's address thing.

i too have malay frens who r having dogs.
they say as long as da dog is not wet, its not a prob 2 them.
some even use dogs 2 jaga rumah. police uses hounds 2 find those VCD, drugs n stuffs rite?

no,it is a necessity in just about every country in the world.

you should see what the truly ignorant fellas say..
"it only happens in boleh land thanks to muslims not being able to touch dogs"
ROFL...im still laughing at that to this day

for those strays,i think the council people just shoot them
like the stray dog that went into a government school(not sure what state)..
it DIDNT harm ANYONE.
it was friendly to the students,yet the headmistress called the council to shoot the dog in plain sight(in the school compound,in front of the students)
a disgrace to the human race,this headmistress..
and later on claim to suffer trauma or some sh|t because of the negative attention she garnered from her stupid action...COWARD

just go to your local council to apply(if you're in the MBPJ area,just go to their office.)

i dont think if it is a small breed that you should worry too much..
usually it is a MUST for big dogs.

good idea.

i agree.
it is good that owners are limited.
but if the owners are responsible,i dont see the logic in taking away their dogs/limiting how many they want.

i bet if the government comes up with a law stating 2 kids per household,all manner of things would crop up.
but as usual,because this is about animals,who cares?


unfortunately in this world,when it comes to humans,just about everything is fine..
but when it comes to animals,shoot the thing,it doesnt matter "it's just an animal"

relax bro..
he isnt referring to Islam,but more towards the followers.
the rule is there to allow men to take care of women,but nowadays many(not all,but many) abuse it and just marry for the sake of lust

if your neighbours dont mind,it wouldnt be such a big deal.
but what i'm afraid of is my neighbours might get agitated and might report me/my dogs.

my neighbourhood has a fair share of malays/chinese/indians,and some dont mind animals,but some do.

so far so good,my neighbours are malay,chinese,indian and blacks.(just moved in)
so far so good

and while we're at that,lets force people to shove a sock in baby's mouth when they cry!

seriously,though..my ears hurt more from one of my neighbour's baby crying non stop everyday than any of the dogs my other neighbours keep

IMO,"4 mistresses or 4 wives" is the "modern" way of looking at it.
most(read again: MOST) men today see women as sex objects.
and they see the "men are allowed to marry up to 4 wives" as an excuse to have more sex-legally.

which is wrong.
Islam did not allow men to marry up to 4 wives just so they can satisfy their sexual lust,it is brought down so that the men can look after women who have lost their husbands due to war/other reasons.

no problem.
we all learn something everyday

i dont know which is worst,seeing your family member get shot or taken away..

btw,if they are taken away,anyone know where they are taken?
is it to the spca?
or some dog compound?

would they be put to sleep?

LoL Mgsrulz... Try to explain the advantages to having a dog to your neighbour perhaps they change their mind and accept your opinion

This post has been edited by climacool: May 28 2007, 10:19 PM

i dunno..we rarely talk with each other
im sitting on a fence here...anytime disaster can strike..

they have seen me walking my dogs before,and the most they would do is give me a black face+CABUT MASUK RUMAH!!!!!

Well, I'm also against the rules... I have 3 dogs... used to have 4... anyway, the best is registering 2 under your address, and 2 someone elses... That's the best.

The license in a way is just a safety precaution when your dog accidentally strays away or so happen the authorities pass by your house.... they do not have the power to shoot the dogs unless they are aggressive.

As what I know, the local city council does not order their officers to go around gunning down dogs. Even if stray also they round them up with ropes and bring them to the local pound. SPCA is not a pound, it is a shelter.

Firstly, the council will only go to your house to see your dogs if you have a neighbour that complains. Once complains, the council will send an officer or 2 to have a look see and speak to you. A fine would than be given and also a warning for you to get rid of the dogs... normally a timespan in like a week or 2... if you fail to take away the extra dogs, they will give you another fine and warning.... if all fails, they will confiscate your dogs(rarely happens).... So if you do get a warning, best to take your dogs to a relatives place and let them hide out for about 2 weeks before bringing them back.

So far, this only happens when neighbours complain to local city council.

Yes, that is quite right. Why they limit the dogs is because there are many irresponsible people keeping not for pets but for watchdogs.... imagine 4 dogs barking outside, can pengsan LOL....

But another reason is the right space for dogs. The rule is not set by the council without research. Sometimes the compound is only suitable for 2 dogs but keeping four, the dogs can't really move about easily and may have a boring life without much space to play and explore.... so that is another reason bout the limit.

That's what I do

lol.. better the council people dun see this thread..

in taiping there's a kind lady taking care of many stray dogs..i believe there are more than 100 dogs in her compound..

is there a license to apply?

No... coz her dogs are not in a housing estate but an empty land. Her place has no one staying but only her. The dogs are strays that are dumped at her doorstep and she has little money to keep every dog but she tries. She doesn't need a license coz she is doing a good cause, also not a housing estate and no neighbours to complain. If I live on a farm with no houses around me, what for have a license?

ic..dats my hometown..heard of the place near there is under construction, for a new giant hypermall or something.. <-- heard from ppl around taiping
sked later da MPT ppl go n kacau her or wat.
if not dunno where's she's gonna move d, wif so many dogs. my aunty visit her last time n she heard dat all da dogs can finish bout 1-2 big packets of kibbles per day. hv 2 mix wif something elz..

even if the dogs arent aggressive, and they still shoot the dogs,we cant say anything,can we?

i've never heard of council members being charged with killing an innocent dog before in my life.
it's always "the dogs were violent,so we had to shoot them"-and they get away with it without any kind of investigation whatsoever

that's what i feel is unfair.
they say max per house hold is 2/4 dogs.
they dont go into specifics and mention if that is for large/small breeds.
they just round all up as "dogs".

how can one compare a pomeranian to a st bernard?

She needs about 20 t 30 bags of 15kg dogfood each month, and also many bags of rice.

Anyway, if she is required to move, then it will be hard for her.... for now, the land is loaned to her by the kind landlord... I think that is what I heard.... anyway, back to topic.... best to stay within the topic....

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Added on May 28, 2007, 11:26 pmWell, our council has not been very kind towards animals.... so killing an animal or pet, to them it is nothing.... they never realise that a pet is a family member to us... So best if we take precaution loh. So far the incident where 13 dogs were shot in the owners home, an investigation did take place but then the case died coz nobody followed up in the papers.

True about the size of dogs.... the rule they have not change for the past years.... last time people only keep mongrels or large breeds.... rarely small so to them, 2 dogs means medium or large breeds....


This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: May 28 2007, 11:26 PM

Frankly if no 1 kacau(neighbour or someone who busy body) I think shouldnt be big problem of applying license.

I always let my prince run everywhere in housing area, so I think is safer for him to applied, if not later MBPJ come take my prince away

I think lah, eventhough ur dog have license, and if they really see ur dog running around and dun like them, they still can catch them, shoot them, then claimed that the dog violent lah, attack ppl lah....... Wat can u say then?? They r the boss.

No... Selangor and KL will not shoot dogs.... sigh.... all think shoot coz the other states city council hire dog shooters... not animal control. In KL, DBKL is in charge and they never kill dogs if they see them stray. Round up, catch and bring to DBKL dog pound. The license is also needed coz easier to claim back dog if caught. Aggressive dogs is those that kill people.... now only those dogs they will shot by law.

agree wif joana.
before i moved into my new house my old neighbour faced da same thing too. keeping 2 mongrels, barking when strangers pass by.
1day da authorities came wif a warrant, wanted 2 take away those 2 poor dogs, they were like "i don care as long as got ppl complaint den ur dong is gone"
dunno wat happened later, she got bac her dog, i think by back door ras*ah.

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Added on May 29, 2007, 11:10 amsigh..they will b put into da pound, n after a period of time where no ppl claims it..it will b put to sleep..


This post has been edited by jaunty_niel: May 29 2007, 11:10 AM

may i know how2 apply license for dog?how much d cost?

shi tzu oso need license?i oweys put in d house

This post has been edited by ahseng84: May 29 2007, 11:29 AM

Aiyah... as a dog owner, we must be responsible not to let our dogs become a problem to neighbours.... If a cat's meowing can drive us crazy, a dog's barking can drive others crazy as well so we must be considerate.

Also, the authorities will not straight away take the dogs.... only after 2nd warning and no action taken by owner then only can they take the dogs.... so be friends with your neighbour.... if you are not gonna be friends with them, then they can be evil and report bout your dogs.

DBKL doesn't put all dogs to sleep.... only the stray that are bitey or sickly are put to sleep. Those with collars or license or are friendly and healthy are then sent to the SPCA to see if can rehome from there. I have spoken to them already to get the real facts.... so this is not "I heard from someone" story....

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Added on May 29, 2007, 11:31 amIf you are in KL, go to DBKL, if you in PJ or SJ, get in touch with the local council and buy license.... I already put up the price, RM10 only.

All dogs should have license, don't care what breed, what size, what age.... as long you live in a neighbourhood community, it is responsible to get the license.

This post has been edited by crazymouse_yyh: May 29 2007, 11:31 AM

if malacca area?where can get ya?

nice info hun... coz some of us (including me) tend to base on hearsay only...

Check with malacca local council.

kk,thx a lot,will go2 check later

Recently, i just apply 4 license for my 8 dogs...because my neighbour who never stay in this house of his from the day he brought, complain to MPSJ that i have more dogs in my household that it should. I have 3 in the front (24 x 40) , 2 inside the home (24x 30) and 3 at the back of my home (24 x 15). The reason of complain have nothing to do with my dog being noisy or dirty cuz they only make noise during mealtime and of course got stranger walk pass by near my home and i pick up their poo and wrap with layer of newspaper so it doesnt create any foul smell. The reason he complain because he cannot sell or rent his home, so he filed a complain to my household. So never mind, being a responsible owner i am, i apply license to all my dog but i break it to two time visit, 4 each time. I remove one of my dog from my front porch to my factory.
So it already been a month since the complain, many visit that home but no avail..no one interested in buying or renting the home....you know why..cuz the house was in devastated stage. Roof is leaking, there is crack all over the wall, paint peeling off and etc....so he still hope he can sell or rent the home without fixing anything....how amazing....90% who when to see the place complain his home and praise that we have dog and can protect them...how amazing....

By the way...when i went to apply the license, the officer in MPSJ was very nice, she explain everything nicely to me and i was able to get it done in less than 30 min. Sadly we only can 4 dog when your home is 5X bungalow land...cuz even corner home of mine only allow 2 dogs...this is the only thing i find it ridiculos. Other than that, i am good...

On my second trip to apply another 4 license for my remainder dog, i was sent home from MPSJ with empty hand because they running out of dog tag. So temporarily, they will not take any action to those dog without license until a new batch of dog license tag is ready by the MPSJ.

I have a wonderful experience...by the way, i am looking for a new home so i can have peace of mine with my dog and the other dog from the factory can come home and united with his brother and sister.....

Have a wonderful day.....

Nicki...proud owner of 8 rescue mixed breed dogs who bring nothing but joy and happiness to the household.......

Should i bring dog to MPK for apply license... ???
plz someone elaborate more about the procedure...
Thanks.

Just bring yourself and IC... no need your dog.

Oh.. Thanks

OH wait, it depends on each council, just in case, bring along your dog's vaccination card as well.

eh.. my husband told me that the dog licsence no stock ler.. is this the way to describe? he also said they wont take action during this moment..

Vacination card is a must.....

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Added on June 7, 2007, 4:09 pmyes..currently no stock..they will announce when they have the stock....

This post has been edited by nicki_spykeaz: Jun 7 2007, 04:09 PM

they will accounce to whr ? news?

How i wish this apply to those ppl who rear hell lots of cats....

I oso wish they can shoot the cats without licience or exceeded the amount...

but the problem is weather or not they shoot the cats or not... @@"

at other places ppl catch them, and then wait ppl to come to addopt them... here? BIANG!! drag up the truck... end case!!!

this happened to my dog, she's been shoot just infront of my gate... swt"

pay attention the the chinese paper..mostly they will announce on the newspaper...i also waiting for the announcement...cuz i have 4 more to do...

Okie thanks.

The best time to get dog license is during February and March.... after that, it could be either out of stock or some other excuse. So the best is getting early.

Anyway, dogs below 6 months won't be affected. The council will only take action if the dog is above 6 months old....

phew. was wondering if it nesscery (4got again ) if i only got 1 small breed dog.

It is better to get a license lah but if still puppy, you don't need to worry yourself so much if it is below 6 months old.

hmm.. from what i heard is that the tiger/lions/ and crocs in the zoo are hungry, so they shoot em' to cover the cost of buying chicken everytime. in conclusion, they're being fed to fat crocs in zoo

you hate cats because the council doesnt take action against them?

that's what alot of people say but not entirely true.... coz i worked in a zoo before. The animals at the zoo cannot simply eat animals that are killed off the streets since they can carry diseases, bacteria and viruses, if fed to the animals in the zoo, it could kill those animals which cost alot of amount of money. A tiger could be Rm10k... so will they risk giving something with unknown origin to an animal that expensive? The animals in the zoo gets chickens, rabbits, rats, beef and fish to the animals.... anyway, out of topic but these are facts.

haha. the fella nonsense la. cat vs dog wars are ridiculous. it's just like fanboys with AMD vs Intel, ATi vs nVidia, Canon vs Nikon and MU vs the rest of EPL war.

anyway your dog get license yet? never know i can help you take care of a few. we nearby mah.

I found out that in S'pore, all dogs or cats need license, whether u stay in aprtment or landed property.
And the price got 3 types, spayed/neutered, male, and female.
The female price is 3 of 4 times higher than the male or spayed/neutered catogory...... sial.........

Well, I think Malaysia should do that. Equal mah, both cat and dog can be a nuisance if too many in a household. Also, Singapore got strict rules on how many dogs and cats and what size of dog can be kept in an apartment. The license is higher for unspayed females is so that more people will have the urge and motivation to spay their females.... which is a good practice, so that more people won't simply breed dogs.

not yet.
no time to go to mbpj(classes 5 times a week atm )

wanna meet them?

do they have restrictions on number of pets?
if they dont,i'm all for malaysia following this.

any similiar rule for houses?

If apartment, only small breeds can be kept. If houses, large dogs can be kept but the amount of dogs, I'm not sure.... But if you want, I can check later with a few of my friends who are in Singapore. So far they have 2 dogs each....

If I am not mistaken, the age limit is 4 months under the MPSJ council - that's what it said on the terms when I applied for my dogs' license la. This was two years - didn't read the terms when I renewed so not sure if it has been revised.

Oh? Maybe each council different.... well, better to get it early than be sorry later I guess.

Now is 6 months.....

aih.... when me and my hubby went to ask for the license...the Jabatan Kesihatan Officer like rubbing his eyes coz my hubby is a Malay and I looked like Malay. Asking us over and over again in seriously getting a dog.

really..

the person in charge over at MBPJ didnt bat an eye when i went to enquire about the license..

the fellow you went to must've never heard of such a thing as Muslim/Malay dog owners...

"why must u compare animals and human...? mind to elaborate about that '4 wives'... sounds like u bringing some issue here... i'm warning u not to play with religious issue here ok... if u are unable to use ur brain wisely enough, don't bother to share the rubbish inside... get it...?"

wow, wow,... cool down ere,.
what he has to say here is about those men who cant afford to take care of 4wives, though just getting married for sexual pleasure,..
i dont think there are any religious issues are brought up here,.. so chill, and there's no need to defend those people,.