fake? cheap?

pioneer's HU considere aledi dam* cheap.. yet still haf imitation stuff? ha! ha!

pioneer has many series... which series do u refer to and the price u considere cheap as?

correct... head unit is juz a player that plays CD... for normal ppl, they'll check the xxW rating and thats it..

but for real, each brand's cd player has its own characteristic... for eg. alpine has a high trebel character, eclipse has a clean/natural character n so as other brands.. so, this reli depends on the taste of the listener..

then, follow by the DAC (digital analogue converter).. 1 bit DAC n 24bit DAC.. they surely make a large difference..

if the cd player is good, the amplifier in the HU itself is good as well... such as my alpine 9815.. it performs well in my bro's myvi wif stock speakers.. a good HU will last u more than 5 yrs cz my dad's Alpine HU juz had its b'day last month and its 7yrs old edi...

so... the more u pay, the more u get.. durability and satisfaction is there..

well... most good HU doesnt has amp built in...

Alpine headunit that u said high end ain't really high end at all if compared wid what craziechild. Those u saw is juz better than others at middle end.

Those high end stuffs r like alpine f1 unit will cost more than rm4k, mcintosh, pioneer p80, eclipse n etc...

Those shops selling so called high end is like 9855 n a model wid dvd player. They cost around rm2k at max....

p80 also 2K onli   i think for pioneer hi end would be the ODR series 

HU: good choice... i like eclipse ever since i first auditted and comparing them to the other brands at similar price range...

as for component set... ameron... not familiar with it... but heard from word of mouth it was kinda bright... not so sure... anyway... whats your budget for your component set?

as for your amp... for tht budget, does it includes the wirings?... nothing comes into my mind other than second hand amps... if you are looking for good amps...

dun trust a second hand stuff? well you can power your component set through your HU first then adding amps when you have more budget...

hope this helps...

the head unit is OK edi.. but what is ur budget for the speakers? bcz u might able to get something better out of the budget for the speakers..

you could get a decent amp with tht budget if your timing is right...

join mycarhifi.com, gr8tunes.net, or icehifi.com you will be suprised with the amount of choices there...

btw... there is a a/d/s component set on sell... a good option to consider if you are looking for decent SQ...

cheers...

Ameron >>> Local? cant get it from web...