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 StashAway MY, New instrument for Malaysian?

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post Dec 28 2018, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(nickcct @ Dec 28 2018, 07:42 AM)
The 6 months free management fee need to sign up using the referral code
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I cant remember if I used a referral code to sign up, is there a way to check? Cant find it in the app
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post Dec 28 2018, 01:20 PM

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QUOTE(SwarmTroll @ Dec 28 2018, 01:17 PM)
I cant remember if I used a referral code to sign up, is there a way to check? Cant find it in the app
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You can check it on the desktop version

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post Dec 28 2018, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(SwarmTroll @ Dec 28 2018, 01:17 PM)
I cant remember if I used a referral code to sign up, is there a way to check? Cant find it in the app
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Under setting, active promotion. If u used a code will show there.
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Have to admit, that whatsapp button is annoying af.
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whatsap support is 24x7?
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post Dec 29 2018, 12:45 PM

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Lots of green these few days.. But the currency impact is impacting those figures in RM..

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post Dec 29 2018, 12:46 PM

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still cannot recoup the loss.
still in negative territory.
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QUOTE(MNet @ Dec 29 2018, 12:46 PM)
still cannot recoup the loss.
still in negative territory.
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Well, most likely it will continue to be in the red for quite a while if recession happens.
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post Dec 29 2018, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Dec 29 2018, 12:46 PM)
still cannot recoup the loss.
still in negative territory.
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Yea I have been seeing red most of the time from 2017Q3.

Just stick to consistent weekly deposits.
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post Dec 29 2018, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Dec 29 2018, 01:45 PM)
Yea I have been seeing red most of the time from 2017Q3.

Just stick to consistent weekly deposits.
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any idea can weekly deposit for MBB?

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post Dec 29 2018, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Dec 29 2018, 05:44 PM)
any idea can weekly deposit for MBB?

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just deposit manually
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post Dec 29 2018, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Dec 29 2018, 05:44 PM)
any idea can weekly deposit for MBB?

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1. Open a CIMB account
2. Transfer all money from MBB to CIMB
3. Setup standing instruction on CIMB clicks
4. Flip a bird to MBB
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Dec 29 2018, 05:44 PM)
any idea can weekly deposit for MBB?

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I think you can just set schedule transfer from MBB
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post Dec 30 2018, 04:05 AM

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QUOTE(honsiong @ Dec 26 2018, 04:50 PM)
Malaysians and Singaporeans don't need to pay capital gains tax.

StashAway and their broker Saxo also help customers do withholding tax refund, but this one has significant delays, like I only got withholding tax reimbursement in October for FY 2017 investments, check with their customer support.

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honsiong

Here is what I understand about the amount of tax refund from your screenshot. So, kindly correct my misunderstanding, if there is any.


Dividend Withholding Tax = 30% of the Dividend

Refund Amount from Dividend Withholding Tax = 46% of Dividend Withholding Tax
Refund Amount from Dividend Withholding Tax = 46% x 30% of the dividend = 13.8% of the dividend

Thus,

Unrefunded Amount from Dividend Withholding Tax
= (100% - 46%) from Dividend Withholding Tax x 30% of the dividend = 54% x 30% of the dividend
= 16.2% of the dividend

In other words, StashAway and their broker Saxo are unable to assist in claiming back the remaining Dividend Withholding Tax (= 16.2% of the dividend), from the US tax authorities, since we Malaysians are not US tax resident.

So, we have to accept that 16.2% of the dividend is lost, and we have to reduce our dividend yield of our investment in StashAway accordingly.


Thank you for your clarification. thumbup.gif

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Anyone of u switched for higher risk to lower risk portfolio?
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QUOTE(MNet @ Dec 30 2018, 08:44 AM)
Anyone of u switched for higher risk to lower risk portfolio?
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Me. reduce to 6.6%. Now only lost 1.1%
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QUOTE(honsiong @ Dec 26 2018, 04:50 PM)
Malaysians and Singaporeans don't need to pay capital gains tax.

StashAway and their broker Saxo also help customers do withholding tax refund, but this one has significant delays, like I only got withholding tax reimbursement in October for FY 2017 investments, check with their customer support.

user posted image
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hi pals wanna enquire, for the wildholding tax refund, they will do it spontaneously?

or we need to request somewhere on the platform?
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QUOTE(kart @ Dec 30 2018, 04:05 AM)
honsiong

Here is what I understand about the amount of tax refund from your screenshot. So, kindly correct my misunderstanding, if there is any.
Dividend Withholding Tax = 30% of the Dividend

Refund Amount from Dividend Withholding Tax = 46% of Dividend Withholding Tax
Refund Amount from Dividend Withholding Tax = 46% x 30% of the dividend = 13.8% of the dividend

Thus,

Unfunded Amount from Dividend Withholding Tax
= (100% - 46%) from Dividend Withholding Tax x 30% of the dividend = 54% x 30% of the dividend
= 16.2% of the dividend

In other words, StashAway and their broker Saxo are unable to assist in claiming back the remaining Dividend Withholding Tax (= 16.2% of the dividend), from the US tax authorities, since we Malaysians are not US tax resident.

So, we have to accept that 16.2% of the dividend is lost, and we have to reduce our dividend yield of our investment in StashAway accordingly.
Thank you for your clarification.  thumbup.gif
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Eh the specifics I think better ask their customer support. But the amount returned macam not that life changing also, so maybe you are right.


QUOTE(tadashi987 @ Dec 30 2018, 11:55 AM)
hi pals wanna enquire, for the wildholding tax refund, they will do it spontaneously?

or we need to request somewhere on the platform?
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Spontaneously.
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post Dec 30 2018, 12:47 PM

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Eh the specifics I think better ask their customer support. But the amount returned macam not that life changing also, so maybe you are right.
Spontaneously.
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I re read and re read. I still don't understand the tax part.

so conclusion, are we very obvious at the losing part due to the tax?

or the claimant amount negligible?

16% seems a lot.

and the dividend etf with withholding tax... what's the point of dividend etf? isn't it useless??

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post Dec 30 2018, 02:38 PM

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QUOTE(kart @ Dec 30 2018, 04:05 AM)
honsiong

Here is what I understand about the amount of tax refund from your screenshot. So, kindly correct my misunderstanding, if there is any.
Dividend Withholding Tax = 30% of the Dividend

Refund Amount from Dividend Withholding Tax = 46% of Dividend Withholding Tax
Refund Amount from Dividend Withholding Tax = 46% x 30% of the dividend = 13.8% of the dividend

Thus,

Unrefunded Amount from Dividend Withholding Tax
= (100% - 46%) from Dividend Withholding Tax x 30% of the dividend = 54% x 30% of the dividend
= 16.2% of the dividend

In other words, StashAway and their broker Saxo are unable to assist in claiming back the remaining Dividend Withholding Tax (= 16.2% of the dividend), from the US tax authorities, since we Malaysians are not US tax resident.

So, we have to accept that 16.2% of the dividend is lost, and we have to reduce our dividend yield of our investment in StashAway accordingly.
Thank you for your clarification.  thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Dec 30 2018, 12:47 PM)
I re read and re read. I still don't understand the tax part.

so conclusion, are we very obvious at the losing part due to the tax?

or the claimant amount negligible?

16% seems a lot.

and the dividend etf with withholding tax... what's the point of dividend etf? isn't it useless??
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Just compiled all dividend payouts in FY 2017.

For each bonds:
1. x = sum of payouts in 2017
2. dividend_before_tax = x * 10 / 7 // coz 30% deducted
3. reimburse_% = reimbursed_amount / dividend_before_tax

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I may have make mistakes here, so the gov bonds macam refund all the withholding taxes, except CWB.

This post has been edited by honsiong: Dec 30 2018, 02:48 PM

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