There are so many brands and design to chose, so how do we pick the right toilet bowl?

1) Identify your toilet bowl is a P or S trap.


2) Measure the outlet distance
P trap or also known as Horizontal outlet (HO) has a standard height of 180mm from floor to the center of the outlet pipe

S-Trap on the other hand is usually 8, 10 or 12" while some old designs do have 20" (rarely)

Here is a sample of how to measure S-trap


3) Type of Flush that you prefer
There are mainly two types of flushing system, Washdown or Siphonic.


4) One Piece or Close Coupled Design
One Piece design refers to the cistern (water tank) and the bowl are connected as one piece. While Close Coupled means, the cistern and bowl are separated.


5) Budget
For RM 1k and above ---> Toto, American Standard, Kohler, Roca (international branded)
for RM 500-1k ----> Johnson Suisse, Sorento, Orin, Modern Depot, GBH (Popular Brands in Malaysia)
For lower budget ----> Inno, Mocha, Sorento

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Aug 8 2018, 12:20 AM

This my be my experience with those small tank water saving models...
They never fully flushed the toilet... after flush... something will come back.. caused the bottom to be dirty.. always have to flush twice...

Old style flusher never have this issue... just my limited tested information.. now this made me hate water saving flusher...

old style flush uses 9L, while all toilet bowls are now designed to be 6L only, hence the power is definitely weaker.

This post has been edited by zheilwane: Aug 8 2018, 12:22 AM

Is there still i mean latest toilet bowl with 9L? Latest technology with 9L...

which one is water saving and yet have powerful flush?

Government standards can only use 6L. That is why u cant get a 9L flush now

Thanks for the detail... so every time i ended up flushing twice.. 6L x2.. T_T

ya, if u can recommend one with powerful flush which can clean in 1 flush... please recommend...

I see many brands advertise water saving, however each flush of water is 6L (standard for all brands). As shown in the video, the Sorento WC flush is quite good but i do agree the old style 9L is stronger

I tried many of the international branded WC in hotels while traveling oversea, sometimes still nd two flush, depending on what is going in the toilet bowl
SO wondering why people spend RM 2 - 3k getting those exp WC

i have one of those siphonic one.. useless. want to change to washdown.

Are mocha brand wc ok? Interested in one model i saw in the fair mwc 7609.. but can't find any information about it online...

Please advise...

I installed 3 units MOCHA, one piec
e type, bought at Home pro abt /rm 460 each. Very good.easy flush, modern look, soft close cover.

Nice, which model did you choose?

Can you please share some pictures?

Can i please ask where is Home Pro?

I've always kept to Johnson Suisse, simple reason is it is easy to get parts for when it is time to replace it and quality is fairly good.

Any recommendations for Toto toilet?

I plan to purchase one set and received following quotation:

a. Toto Washlet+ MS636DV RM3,880


b. Toto Washlet TCF4731A RM4,000



1. Any feedback on them?
2. Does anyone aware of ongoing promotion for both products?

Don’t buy that! Check toto atelier. Toto has promo for its GG recently when I purchased my neorest. Special price only -+RM7500 for TOTO CW971BA#XW GG WC Set In White-One Piece Toilet, Dual Flushing 4.5L/3L in S trap
Size: 391 x 721 x 684mm.

I think this one. It has washlet etc etc

The quote is actually from W. Atelier. I asked for recommendation and they recommend me Toto Washlet+ MS636DV model. (Perhaps, I was standing and asking the question at that section - not sure ) Could not remember the original price, but I believe the discount is rather significant (40% - 50%).

I could not find details of TOTO CW971BA#XW online, other than this website. It will take me another Saturday to visit the showroom to learn its features, so, would be interested why this model interests you.

https://youtu.be/dxP2RxdjDVw Check out the video. I have GG, and it’s better than conventional toilet + washlet. I don’t know about others, but I find conventional toilet + mix and match washlet looks ugly. I’d rather go for fully normal toilet, or anything that comes in a set(like GG or smart toilet) rather than mix and match.