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 How to choose toilet bowl (wc) ?, bathroom renovation

What brand are you using or which brand do you prefer to buy?
 
American Standard [ 7 ] ** [4.43%]
Claytan [ 3 ] ** [1.90%]
GBH [ 2 ] ** [1.27%]
Inno [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Johnson Suisse [ 57 ] ** [36.08%]
Kohler [ 15 ] ** [9.49%]
Mocha [ 8 ] ** [5.06%]
Modern Depot [ 0 ] ** [0.00%]
Orin [ 7 ] ** [4.43%]
Roca [ 3 ] ** [1.90%]
Sorento [ 25 ] ** [15.82%]
Toto [ 31 ] ** [19.62%]
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post Aug 8 2018, 12:17 AM, updated 2y ago

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There are so many brands and design to chose, so how do we pick the right toilet bowl?

1) Identify your toilet bowl is a P or S trap.
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2) Measure the outlet distance
P trap or also known as Horizontal outlet (HO) has a standard height of 180mm from floor to the center of the outlet pipe

S-Trap on the other hand is usually 8, 10 or 12" while some old designs do have 20" (rarely)

Here is a sample of how to measure S-trap
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3) Type of Flush that you prefer
There are mainly two types of flushing system, Washdown or Siphonic.


4) One Piece or Close Coupled Design
One Piece design refers to the cistern (water tank) and the bowl are connected as one piece. While Close Coupled means, the cistern and bowl are separated.
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5) Budget
For RM 1k and above ---> Toto, American Standard, Kohler, Roca (international branded)
for RM 500-1k ----> Johnson Suisse, Sorento, Orin, Modern Depot, GBH (Popular Brands in Malaysia)
For lower budget ----> Inno, Mocha, Sorento

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post Aug 8 2018, 12:22 AM

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old style flush uses 9L, while all toilet bowls are now designed to be 6L only, hence the power is definitely weaker.

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post Aug 8 2018, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(popopi @ Aug 8 2018, 12:26 AM)
Is there still i mean latest toilet bowl with 9L? Latest technology with 9L...
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Government standards can only use 6L. That is why u cant get a 9L flush now
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post Aug 8 2018, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Aug 8 2018, 12:28 AM)
which one is water saving and yet have powerful flush?
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I see many brands advertise water saving, however each flush of water is 6L (standard for all brands). As shown in the video, the Sorento WC flush is quite good but i do agree the old style 9L is stronger
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post Aug 8 2018, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(popopi @ Aug 8 2018, 12:32 AM)
ya, if u can recommend one with powerful flush which can clean in 1 flush... please recommend...
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I tried many of the international branded WC in hotels while traveling oversea, sometimes still nd two flush, depending on what is going in the toilet bowl smile.gif
SO wondering why people spend RM 2 - 3k getting those exp WC smile.gif
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post Dec 9 2019, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(Cosmic_X @ Dec 7 2019, 08:59 PM)
Any recommendation on Sorento WC?
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my best recommendation, srtwc 8319


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post Dec 28 2019, 06:46 AM

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QUOTE(xiaobaiwm @ Dec 27 2019, 04:34 PM)
Mocha is italy brand or locally made? How come the price so cheap?
http://www.mocha.com.my/
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local brand, made in china.


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post Jan 31 2021, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(magmachilli @ Jan 31 2021, 10:03 AM)
I went to look at a Johnson Suisse Erika WC at a shop (not Builders Hardware), and what bugged me was that the font for the Johnson Suisse logo felt inconsistent.

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Should it look more like this?

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Is this an indication that Johnson Suisse QC isn't as good these days? Or is the seller selling fake? Or am I just being too nitpicky and worrying over small things...
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is like that 1, so far dont c any fake in the market
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post Mar 5 2021, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(Jdite @ Mar 4 2021, 06:39 PM)
Any recommendation for a 12inch wc?
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sorento srtwc8319, adjustable 6 - 12", uf seat cover, wash down. good design and reasonable price ard RM 770+- market price. ofcoz can get lower with the right shop

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post May 14 2021, 09:48 PM

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if you are looking for a minimalist wc design, strong flushing and with built in bidet, then can consider the latest MODERN DEPOT one piece water closet



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post May 14 2021, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(tony_mw @ May 14 2021, 10:09 PM)
Boss, how much for a wc like this?
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current market price is less than rm 1.5k, but u nd to make sure the hole distance is 300mm
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post May 15 2021, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(ceo684 @ May 15 2021, 01:29 PM)
I'm curious how to tell the hole distance - Without actually dismantling the toilet bowl, is there a surefire way to know what is the hole distance from wall?

Is there diff hole size (diameter) to be concerned of as well, or the hole is always standard (1 size) only?
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hole diameter on the floor standard is 4", usually need to remove only can c unless u have an old design where the pipe is visible
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post Sep 10 2021, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(martin_heng @ Sep 10 2021, 12:16 PM)
how long warranty and if spoil got contractor can repair?
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internal tank fittings 2 years
Other parts 1 year

they got service team
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post Sep 11 2021, 10:37 AM

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may b u using symphonic flush design.
1) either u put too much toilet paper
2) may b installer didnt install properly, as the outlet is 2" (standard washdown 4") if they didnt install properly and caused the 2" outlet to be covered 1", thatz y cant flush out properly
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post Sep 13 2021, 11:09 PM

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QUOTE(dzire8089 @ Sep 13 2021, 08:00 PM)
I am about to replace my WC and found this. Great.
Both Johnson Suisse & Sorento can easily find replacement parts?
Can recommend me a budget WC with the following factors:
- Budget < 1k. Cheaper better
- Easy to find replacement parts
- Good quality
- P-trap

Anyone has installer contact and how much is the market price for WC replacement labor cost?
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u can look srtwc8319 my best seller


plumber rates rm 180 - 250+- depending location
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post Sep 17 2021, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(brothercheong @ Sep 17 2021, 07:03 PM)
can anyone recommend wc that has water inlet from the top instead of the bottom of the flush tank?

noticed that most modern wc has water inlet from bottom but my experience when flush tank is dirty, the water will backflow into the cold water system of the whole house!
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if u have water keep coming in (there is pressure) water cant backflow. Moreover the tank is only 6L, there wont b much pressure to backflow. Moreover water is coming down from the tank, so the tank water cant go against gravity upward into whole house system.

anyway if worry then jus add a one way valve at the inlet
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post Sep 18 2021, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(brothercheong @ Sep 18 2021, 02:47 PM)
thanks very insightful =),  the problem is that this apartment water is from bottom, meaning the pipe for the unit is running on the floor instead of the ceiling... is this normal?

my cold water has chemical smell and taste, dont know where it coming from a
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may b old apartment using metal GI pipes, try adding a carbon filter near water meter if possible. BUt if pipes inside your house also metal pipes then no use. I saw some online add for pipe cleaning, that might help.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=136690804293382
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QUOTE(donhay @ Nov 22 2021, 12:26 PM)
I was wondering where the best place to get TOTO toilet bowl in Klang Valley. I been to Top Idea jalan ipoh, is it me, TOTO toilet bowl is quite small, like a bit narrow when sit on it.

I am in a hurry to get a toilet bowl, hopefully this week.
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If so, why still wan to buy toto? u can search eurotan, the sell toto also. If not u can try sorento srtwc8088, many of my biz size customers like it. But u nd to check ur outlet distance. this can only fit 250mm

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post Jan 25 2022, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(vernee26 @ Jan 25 2022, 10:15 AM)
Hi @zheilwane,

Can I get your advise please. I'm renovating a subsale house which has the WC rough in of 140mm x 3 bathrooms and 170mm x 1 bathroom
I'm trying to avoid relocating the outlet and looking for a WC which is direct S-trap

Instead of relocating the outlet, I was thinking of getting my plumber to insert a 2-3 inch offset pan connector so that the rough in can extend to 200mm.
And I understand that using this method can only be applied to direct S trap and not the more common P-S traps WC's in the market.

Can I get your opinion :
1/ is the 2-3 inch offset pan connector for direct S-trap extending the rough in to 200mm doable/logical?
2/ assuming no 1/ is doable, could you recommend a WC with 200mm set out which is fully covered (ie, back part not exposed) and smooth surface (for easy cleaning)

TQVM!
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buy sorento srtwc8319 can fit 140mm and 170mm nicely. for 140mm jus nd to top up to exchange another connector. all will fit nicely without offset
https://buildershardware.com.my/product/srtwc8319-uf/

SRTWC8319 so far my best selling model and can fit almost every measurements, good flushing and quality

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post Mar 3 2022, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(sonixmedia @ Mar 2 2022, 11:03 AM)
Hello,
Was looking for this model all over JB, most top supplier don't carry Sorento, I wonder why. Do you have branch in JB? And to confirm SRTWC8319 can use with 9" hole from wall?

Thanks thumbsup.gif
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https://sorento.com.my/index.php/our-stores

u can search johor dealers here

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