tbh uitm is not that bad. but the racism roots of the uni and favor bumiputera only is what makes it looks bad.

many petronas and shell engineers graduated from UITM and they earn very good money. im sure UITM medical field are good too.

you are interested in medical / dental field right?

ive heard and read somewhere the best country to venture into these fields are India and Indonesia. These 2 countries produce the best world class doctors / dentists.

Thanks for the recomendation, but too bad i already accepted the offer. The best thing i can do right now is to be as competent af.

Hi, UiTM dental graduate here. I found some of the replies highly undermined us UiTM & other Msian uni dental graduates and some not even answering the question at all. It is understandable that UiTM will always be under a national stigma but I'm not here to fight an endless war. Before going forth to answer your question, I'd like to clarify my position- I've had the experience of being a dental student in Indonesia & later transferred to UiTM, and graduated.

1. I take it that you're in our most recent batch, 2018? Congratulations for passing the interview. However I would like to express my disappointment to hear that you're depressed for getting in UiTM after you heard 'everyone' said UiTM graduates are incompetent. First, those 'everyone' that you speak of, have they had any dental background & maybe experience of a dental student/practitioner themselves? It is highly biased to you know, for example listen to a lawyer or a businessman to decide on the competency of a dental graduate. Second; you're losing sight of your objective here. You're very much concerned about whether you'll come out being incompetent in UiTM as 'everyone' else said. Don't think too highly of yourself. Are you competent enough to be in a dental faculty is the supposed question. I'll have you know that being in our faculty requires not little but persistent, constant drive to succeed. There's going to be a humongous amount of requirements for you to complete, competency tests in every semester to pass, annual Professional exams and a lot of tough supervisors/lecturers to handle. Think this is a walk in a park? Think again. Lots of students are held back every year for taking this course lightly. Dental faculties in any university is considered to be the hardest to graduate from. Even medicine doesn't have this much of requirement to pass. I have nothing to gain from praising the UiTM dental faculty- but being a dental student in two countries (Indo & Malaysia), the Msian dental faculty has lots more requirement & opportunities compared to Indo.

2. In UiTM you are trained to do various requirements. For example the root canal treatment in molars is known as specialty level in Indonesia & some other countries, but in UiTM it is compulsory to complete the case. For dentures, you'll need to complete 8 units (complete, partial acrylic & cobalt chrome) and most of the time, to pass the competency test you'll complete more than 8. Don't even get me started on fixed prosthodontic requirements. Oral surgery is definitely not easy- the department has very strict and no-nonsense supervisors who aren't afraid to call you out on your extractions & minor oral surgery (yes, there's going to be a time you'll perform a surgery yourself without a supervisor). You'll get less than 3 years to finish all requirements and pass all competencies. And I think its the more or less the same in other dental faculties in Malaysia. So far as I've been briefed by our external colleagues, the dental graduates in UiTM and other public universities (UM, UKM etc) are performing exemplary results in private or public sector. I guess all we can do is to continue keeping up the good work our predecessors have put forth and not be the first to blunder.

3. Regarding your plan to continue a specialty in OMFS in UM, finish your dental degree first. Build a network with oral surgeons. Can't say much if you haven't even finish the degree yet.

If you think being in UiTM will be such a problem for the sake to keep up appearances because its *UiTM*, I suggest you rethink your decision. Us dentists here aren't interested in fame & glory. We would care less what uni you're from if you've performed a great job. Any university you enter, be it Harvard or UiTM, if you're incompetent- you are at fault for being incompetent. That is what our UiTM supervisors/lecturers have cautioned us: We need to perform the best we can and serve the public, eventhough there will always be shallow-minded people who never even performed an endo molar or an extraction would talk like they know shit. I have no interest in holding up the national stigma of UiTM but us UiTM dental graduates will continue to serve the public the best we can- irregardless of what the public thinks of us.

Hi OP, I'm among one of the graduates from UiTM Faculty of Dentistry, here is my experience;

When I was learning in UiTM I am not the cream of the class, i am not the brightest guy through out my batch and truth be told never achieve anything throught out my 5 years of learning there. And I thought I will end up as a flop when I enter my FYDO programme 4 years ago. But somehow during my FYDO-ship I learned that graduates from BDS/DDS overseas are performing a lot worse than me (In theory yes they are good, but what they lack is hands on skills and exposure in treating patients). And I learned that how you benefit, use, and utilise what you learn regardless of the universities will actually determine how will you succeed in your future endeavors.

Once you enter UiTM FoD, you will be shaped and molded according to what the Malaysian Hospitals and Dental Clinic requires you. To make you feel better, most of the lecturers there are graduated from what people called as "Malaysian Ivy League Universities" UM, UKM, USM not to mention that a bunch of them further their studies overseas like in UK, Australia and NZ which considered as the best Dental Faculties in whole wide world.

Adding what aainaaqila had told you, apart from the requirement and scary OS lecturers... you will also need to do tonnes of presentation, endure boring session of discussion in Problem Based Learning, do Community Dental Work, learning how to converse in Mandarin, Entrepreneurship and tonnes of stuff

If you still not convinced enough, just try..You can always quit midway and try other public/private universities.

Owh another thing to add; You mentioned that you are interested to further your studies in OMFS, Its a good choice and a tough one too, you need to finish your BDS, I strongly suggest you to show your interest in OMFS during your FYDO, gain experience a year or two, take your Basic Medical Science examination or MJDF Part 1 paper and apply

Anyway.... You can pm me and I am more than happy to share you my experience there

"Cheers"

This post has been edited by nukeblitz: Aug 9 2018, 11:00 PM

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This post has been edited by MHWorld: Aug 10 2018, 01:09 AM

owowowowowowow, i never expected this and i thought this thread is already dead. Give me some times and i will surely reply later, cheers!!

I pls u la TS. Don't. Got too many dentists. Go PJ one row of shop easily got 3/4 dental clinic.

This post has been edited by mooney: Aug 11 2018, 06:35 PM

Wow, thanks for the reply. You've have made feel much better, i cant stop thinking about this "problem" since the last time i posted this thread. I also found that dental school of UiTM is at tier 4 rated by D-SETARA. Sorry for the late reply.

wowow what is TS and PJ. Sorry i iz stupid

or just dont compare...

Tbh, i never had a problem becoming a UiTM students( I came from UiTM dengkil lol). It is just im afraid that some employers will avoid us, something that we can't control.

I heard many people say Indonesia produces many good dental students. But whatever, i hope UiTM will continue to improve their education system. Btw, dental school of UiTM is rated at tier 4 by D-SETARA, just like USM AND UKM( except UM, they are at tier 5). Dental school of UiTM is quite new anyway (12 years old) compared to top public universities in Malaysia ( atleat 20 years old), so give UiTM some times.

If you worry that much... then don't work with such employers... I have lots of friends from UiTM working... heard non being jobless... some of them working in big companies.

If the employers don't choose you because of that criteria... I don't think that is a criteria of a good employer...

If you afraid much... build your experience although with small company... big shots will hire you when you have enuf experience and you know how to sell yourself.

When you have experience, ppl don't see your highest education anymore.

This post has been edited by exkaizen: Aug 11 2018, 07:16 PM

Just relax, why bother listen to people in kopitiam? I used to think that way as well when i was a student but it just stupid bs bcos currently i have no problem getting jobs in big companies and my salary is pretty high. Heck i was even called for interview from phillip morris, so dont worry about employer throwing away resume with uitm names on it.

People are dumb to think all uitm student are useless and people from oversea grad/private college are the best bcos they’re not.

YESS, thats what im planning to do. I want to work under government for atleast 3 years, then move to private sector.

why bother listen to kopitiam? Because i just wanted to know their opinion and im actually new here. Lol, I dint know what i was getting myself into.

Btw, what do you do right now?

Did u know the founding dean is from UM? U should be grateful to be accepted into this young and progressive faculty.
If u dont have the ‘jatidiri’ then just go elsewhere, i suggest MSU in shah alam, hahahahahahahhahahaha

yes i know he is from UM, but i never said i wasnt grateful though. IPTS? now way.