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 -+♠+-LYN Proton Persona IAFM Owners Club V55-+♠+-, The besi buruk counting it's days.

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post Jan 26 2025, 11:39 AM

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Just got my extractor changed after smelling exhaust smell in my car porch. Now can't even get new parts for that and resort to second handed extractor.

Crack occurs at the infamous right hand side branch.
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post Jan 27 2025, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(Mike3 @ Jan 27 2025, 08:38 AM)
yea just early maintenance as those memang on the way mampus just changed a year earlier or so hahaha
but jack up car found flywheel oilseal there minor leak.

some leak at rack too (i didnt notice reduced oil)

Planning to do my flywheel oil seal during my career break
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Usually flywheel oil seal can fix one shot when changing clutch plate. Wear and tear bro.
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post Jan 27 2025, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(Mike3 @ Jan 27 2025, 04:15 PM)
clutch plate wear so fast? 220k km.

Thinking auto filter as well haha

1 time pain drive another 5 years
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Oh my manual transmission clutch plate gave up around 210,000km. But auto transmission using torque converter i think? Really not sure got clutch component or not...
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post Feb 2 2025, 11:45 PM

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2 of the LED bulbs in my rear lamp (left hand side) just kong. Can the LEDs on the LED board assembly be replaced by soldering? Anyone done that?

This post has been edited by inferno_17_85: Feb 3 2025, 12:45 PM
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post Mar 18 2025, 04:03 PM

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QUOTE(AmIRight? @ Mar 17 2025, 12:43 PM)
Hi Sifu, would like to ask, my persona sv 2014 use all 4 tyres disk brakes.
i hear noise sound when brake, so i go check with mechanic.
He told me my front disk calar and my rear disk bengkok.
1. meaning i have to change both all disk fron and rear is it and also change brake pad as well?
2. What brand you recommend and what brand to avoid?

Thanks in advance.
as i'm in tight budget, only can change disc and brake pad after raya.
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Technically when you change rotor, you should change new pads as well due to the requirement of surface fitting between them.

But if the thickness is sufficient, you still can skim the rotor, but still need new pads for your front set.

Yet, if financially stretched, still can pakai one, will lower performance and the sound.

I tend to avoid Bosch branded brake pads. Banyak fake one and cannot tell apart.


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post Apr 21 2025, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Apr 19 2025, 08:07 PM)
RPM more than 1k after start the engine, feeling choking awhile awhile in between. Anyone facing the same problem like me?
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For my car it's usually throttle body as it gets dirty very often. Based on your service record, you can always check for idling issues first such as spark plugs, air filter, or worse, sensors and others.
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post Apr 23 2025, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ Apr 23 2025, 04:19 PM)
After flushing brake fluid and change brake pad, now the reservoir tank cover leak again.

Few years back also like this, no matter how tight it leak bit by bit.
Maybe cos i drive up down the carpark ramp everyday?
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Try unscrew it, lay the membrane nice nice, and screw back nicely. Last time when i had a leaky brake fluid reservoir, it was because of the cap wasn't screwed in with proper alignment to the thread. It looks normal but you will feel the difference when you unscrew & screw back properly.

If all is still the same, i guess you have to change the cap. It's available on shopee.
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post Apr 25 2025, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(wklow28 @ Apr 25 2025, 12:04 PM)
Thanks for opinion given.
Spark plugs had been changed, seems like not the root cause.
May be some sensors or throttle body cleaning needed  bangwall.gif
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Can clean throttle body first. Get one cleaner from Mr DIY, use a flat head screw to loosen the intake case, and spray at the butterfly sparingly. If you OCD, then can ask someone to help put foot on accelerator pedal, depress fully and turn key to on position without cranking, butterfly will open fully and your finger can go in to wipe/spray more carburetor cleaner.
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post Apr 27 2025, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Apr 26 2025, 11:52 PM)
You didn't put disclaimer, the butterfly plate would shut close within 8 sec like that. Very dangerous the closing force is big and may injured the finger!
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Errrr... I thought it will keep open as long as someone is still depressing the pedal.

Sorry about that.
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post Apr 28 2025, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Apr 27 2025, 10:30 PM)
Toyota one will keep open, my Proton Gen2 will shut close very fast, I knew this because I'm using this method to clean throttle body. Keep repeating and do it real fast before the throttle plate shut closed...
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Don't have my PE with me now to verify. It will be in workshop for next 2 weeks or so for engine and cooling system restoration. Oil leak from all 3 crankshaft and camshafts, leading to swollen timing belts, jammed thermostat and rusty radiator casing, with coolants seeping out of all joints plus broken radiator cover during air conditioner technician revving engine hard to test if coolant temperature indicator not tally with actual coolant temp.
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post May 11 2025, 02:37 PM

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Got a clogged catalytic converter here. Anyone has same issue and provide your opinion either to decat or get a new one?
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post May 12 2025, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ May 12 2025, 11:02 AM)
How to know the catalytic converter was clogged?
I knew for Korean make it'll will show the engine fault light, their catalytic converter always broken into shattering pieces inside.
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Ok will avoid korean one then. Thanks bro.

Restoring my engine as crankshaft & camshaft oil seal leaking oil even with new seal. Workshop noticed clogged catcon while assembling it back.
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post May 12 2025, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ May 12 2025, 03:20 PM)
To be precise it's Korean car maker, I knew coz I have Kia Cerato and joined their FB group, wow the amount of catalytic converter issue popping up can versus Honda's steering rack, lol. Never seen such thing for our Proton cars, very rare.
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The engine clocked 600,000km. According to the workshop the catalytic converter outlasted the usual lifespan of its peer.

To be honest it's really struggling. To go for aftermarket "high flow" cat or get a new one.
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post May 13 2025, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ May 13 2025, 11:35 AM)
Guys, my brake master pump leaking near the join at booster there, but is like almost few weeks once, the fluid level no drop, but can notice a stain on floor.

Is that the problem of brake master pump seal or the booster also related?

If change master pump, is there any different like TRW, china OEM & Original?
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Thing with booster is there's a diaphragm inside which if soaked long in brake fluid, it'll go bad.

I'll go for a check first, then depends on situation or wallet decide if you want TRW or Original. As long as rubber component involved, i believe original is better. But no wrong to go OEM one, TRW is reliable brand.
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post May 14 2025, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ May 14 2025, 08:05 AM)
Thanks for your advice.

It just happened about a month ago, hope not too bad. Hard to just for check, right? when i visit workshop they also use torchlight to see the stain come from where only. Once open, have to change, those brake fluid also have to flush again.

Check the price already, Proton ori about RM300, TRW is half of it. Guess i will go for TRW, hope can last for me.

Do you have experience of changing this pump before?
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The check and change part sometimes is budi bicara, because if they spend time check for you but no job done, the shop also shy to charge you mah... Yet the man-hour already spend there on non-revenue generating job.

I have had brake fluid leak out of pump and causes the black paint of booster to peel off. Can't see anything from outside, and i have mentally prepared to change booster as well. Quite lucky that upon dismantling brake pump, inside of booster is dry. Turned out it's pump actuator rubber gone bad already. So just change the pump.

Sidenote: Although most of the mechanics don't advocate changing brake fluid at fixed interval, i found changing brake fluid + bleeding every 25,000km helps extending life of pumps (master pump, 2 small one at drum brake, and clutch pump).
Same goes to power steering fluid, where my wife's viva already on second rack, mine still sports original rack.


QUOTE(voscar @ May 12 2025, 11:02 AM)
How to know the catalytic converter was clogged?
I knew for Korean make it'll will show the engine fault light, their catalytic converter always broken into shattering pieces inside.
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Voscar bro, just went to workshop to check with the mechanic that install back my catalytic converter, he said it's badly clogged with honeycomb shattered into small pieces inside. The powder has to be emptied into a plastic bag before threw away. I'll get by with an empty bullet first, while saving money for a proper catcon in future.

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post May 14 2025, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ May 14 2025, 11:49 AM)
Do agree with you. I just flush the brake fluid at the same shop last month. More than 5 years didn't change, just to avoid the cap leaking issue, now once flush, guess the gasket at pump seal no good. Just weird thing is, not consistently leaking. I notice it only leak when cold weather after overnight and after few weeks  hmm.gif . Most of the time, i park at office basement, no issue.

So you change OEM or Proton original that time?

For power steering fluid also many years didn't change, at last early this year 1 of the hose leak, so when changing, flush the fluid.

I'm thinking still need to monitor or change the pump?
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I went for original hahaha. But like i said before, OEM of respectable brand is ok one. One good analogy in your case is, your RM150 can get 80% already, would you want to pay another RM150 to reach 100%?

I choose original because of gatal la... For your case you need to weight your OCD aganist your wallet before decide IMO. No right and wrong in this department as long as you don't use cap ayam.

For your power steering, pump no issue no need to change la... Leaking was the hose right? In my case, it's the hose at the bottom of power steering reservoir that got wet with oil not long after change. Once it was the nipple of the reservoir cracked, there was other times that the hose just couldn't tahan and leak from connection.

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post May 14 2025, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ May 14 2025, 04:58 PM)
Sorry for my wrong sentence sequence. My meaning of 'I'm thinking still need to monitor or change the pump?' is refer to Brake Master pump. As no leak now, but not sure when will happened again? Won't be due to the top cover too tight, right?

ya, if TRW can get more than 60% also good enough. As original last me 14 years, if TRW can last me 3 to 4 years is good enough, during that time not sure i still driving this car or not?  biggrin.gif
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You already have answer one... All you need is someone to concur with you hahahaha... Use dry tissue to wipe the wet part time to time, if wet again then you'll know it's time to change.

The only concern i have is air. I have no idea if a leaky brake master pump will introduce air into brake lines, and if your car have ABS, then it add consideration of air being introduced into ABS pump, and the risk of ABS not working as intended when you e-brake, not forgeting the increase in cost of replace the break master pump will go up as you need to bleed ABS pump as well.

Personally, i would suggest to change if you hit highway speed with the car. If it's town use only, can keep and monitor.
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post May 24 2025, 07:52 AM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ May 24 2025, 12:43 AM)
So uh... I got rear ended today. 2 car behind me got struck by some retard, I got hit by the remaining force, but it still was quite hard. Since the car is a old anyway and I had a really long day at the office, I decided to just drive away. Surprisingly only some scratches and rear number plate broken.

Is there any other damage that I need to be aware of?
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Your spare tyre well and area around it. Might compromise water proofing. Can check by inspecting below the car of that area. I might want to check for boot lock function as well.
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post May 25 2025, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(dannyw @ May 25 2025, 09:02 AM)
Only this side have coolant mark, seems like after change the radiator upper hose last month only start.

Any advice on this? Going to drive highway 2 hours is that ok? City drive temperature remain the same, i found out is due to spare tank watet reduce.

Change the seal? Top casing or whole radiator? What about thermostat need to change? Last change is 2023. Lower hose also not change yet.

Due to not enough time sent for this work, plan to do next month. Hope is ok.

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Slow leak like this should be ok. Just watch at the temperature gauge closely, and don't rev high rpm.



Something related to my car. Anyone decat here that would like to offer your 2 cents? My FC become very bad after decat. On gutted cat con now.
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post Jun 6 2025, 10:55 PM

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Just realised I'll have more tyre option if i go for 195/55/R15 . Anyone can offer their feedback on this tyre spec versus the original 195/60/R15?

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