imo there will be 3 factors deciding d mileage, performance improvement aside:

1. how good is ya mobo vrm - 6c12t will be quite toasty on those mobo with weak 3+3/4+2/4+3 boards, throttling will happen
2. air flow in ya case - i would say 3.8GHz is doable usin stock cooler, but if ur doing it on a bad air flow case (shoebox/slim profile), u can totally forget about pushin d chip further than stock
3. luck, i have tested 1500x which for its life cant oc even 100MHz more than stock w/o increasing vcore to a 1600 which can do 3.8GHz with stock volt (or slight lower).

back to performance improvement, i'd say ram mileage does affect d performance gained by some margin. go for highest cpu + ram oc with existing cooling is always d way to go imo.

As mentioned by abam khoo, an average Ryzen 5 1600 should be able to overclock to 3.75-3.8GHz on stock cooler.
I'd say 1.35v max at 100% load before throttling.
Keep the CPU core temps (Tctl/Tdie measured through HWiNFO64) below 75c if possible.
I also noticed that your mobo is AB350, might be a good idea to actively cool the VRM with a fan pointing toward the heatsinks surrounding the CPU socket.

Performance gain in CPU intensive tests according to TPU is about 8%:


However, in gaming environment based on G3D results the improvement is almost negligible:


This post has been edited by owikh84: Feb 20 2019, 11:20 PM

u can always try to undervolt ya chip yet oc for +100~200MHz, who knows u got an above average chip there. If ur not gonna venture into CPU oc, u can try to play with ram oc. i reckon 3200MHz wont really require u to up the vimc (cpu nb) voltage a notch or 2 usually. as long as ya ram stick is on Hynic AFR, u shouldn't have issue hitting 3200MHz, if Hynix MFR mebe slightly lower @ 3066MHz, timing wise try 16-18-18 & try to tighten it from there (16-17-17 or if ur lucky, 14-17-17). AFR timing is about there @ 3200MHz.

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Feb 21 2019, 12:08 PM

some cheap but decent kvr... 3200 seemed to be no go @ cas14...




3133Mhz did improved d result a lil...



3200MHz finally done, need to let d mobo do some memory trainin...



This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Feb 25 2019, 01:18 PM

baru ni tengok Lowyat banyak kvr micron

boleh bagi gambar cip dia tak nak cari kat lowyat tq

something like this bro...

abam khoo bought new mobo again...
But where's your AB350M?

not new lah bro, switched to full atx for tidier look...

ab350m soon to be released, kenot afford to put under bed doin nothing...

banyak ktc(label dekat kertas) dah print lain dekat ic

B-die tRCDWR can be set as low as 8 and still maintains stability!

aint that right? what full atx you recommended that would be nice for it

glad to see atas series from corsair is performin again bro.... only problem is how thich is d wallet...

for moderate oc with 6c12t & below, either b450 tomahawk or x470 gaming plus (if u dont mind d look) would be decent, with d latter offer slightly stronger vrm.

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Mar 8 2019, 09:37 AM

ah_khoo thanks for the suggestion

np bro, d reason why i pushed for MSI becoz:

1. they use decent components on VRM.
2. their VRM usually with double fets n some (x470 gaming plus/b450 carbon) with double fets & chokes which will do good to withstand d volt u throw at ya chip (actively coolin it will be even better)
3. their frequent update of BIOS (even my old B350 Tomahawk get update for fixed/offset voltage option, which i can't say all manufactures practice such thing)

Cheers...

This post has been edited by ah_khoo: Mar 8 2019, 10:21 AM

cip tulis afr thaipoon tulis mfr

This post has been edited by keyo: Mar 8 2019, 03:26 PM


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ok ape bro... push lagi… mrf to do 3200 cl14 is nice!!!

TridentZ RGB for AMD 3600 CL18-22-22 1.35v kit is MFR, remember?

is mfr will impact performance significantly?

RAM IC doesn't matter, be it MFR/CFR/AFR/B-die. They are comparable to each other at the same specs.
Among these chips, Samsung B-die is the best overclocker as it scales well with the voltage.

Ryzen CPU architecture uses AMD's Infinity Fabric, which directly linked to RAM speed.
So faster memory will give a better CPU performance.

RAM clock speed (higher is better) and timing (lower is better) are more important.
Best way to know which RAM kit is faster is by calculating its true latency (lower is better):

3600 CL18 = 2000/3600*18 = 10.00
3600 CL16 = 2000/3600*16 = 8.89 (faster than 3600 CL18)
3200 CL16 = 2000/3200*16 = 10.00 (same as 3600 CL18)
3200 CL14 = 2000/3200*14 = 8.75 (fastest)