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post Sep 28 2019, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Sep 28 2019, 11:31 AM)
Cant post at all, stuck at debug code 07 displayed on mobo.
I've tried playing around with VDDG up to 1.1v, SOC up to 1.15v but none of them seems to be helpful.
I also tried BCLK 102 with FCLK 1866, getting the same error code.

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Ok 1.1 vddg pretty high already, no luck with your IF then.
Is your bw really going up when you run 3733 synced? I used to think theres just a latency penalty.

Btw, you might be able to drop vsoc. That one can be tested with stress cache only im aida64 quite easily/quickly.

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post Sep 28 2019, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(nrw @ Sep 28 2019, 11:52 AM)
Ok 1.1 vddg pretty high already, no luck with your IF then.
Is your bw really going up when you run 3733 synced? I used to think theres just a latency penalty.
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ya I think 1.1v is quite high already, I even tried 1.2v SOC just now.
Not really want to go higher otherwise I will kill the IMC, I think I'm just one of those unlucky ones with FCLK capped at 1866.

3733 14-16-14-28, FCLK 1866:
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3800 14-16-14-28, FCLK 1866:
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post Sep 28 2019, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Sep 28 2019, 12:23 PM)
ya I think 1.1v is quite high already, I even tried 1.2v SOC just now.
Not really want to go higher otherwise I will kill the IMC, I think I'm just one of those unlucky ones with FCLK capped at 1866.

3733 14-16-14-28, FCLK 1866:
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3800 14-16-14-28, FCLK 1866:
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thanks! quite a surprise.
yes, 1.15 with soc is my personal limit already, but so far all my settings run stable below 1.1.
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post Oct 4 2019, 05:49 PM

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finally had some time to finalize my ram oc biggrin.gif

First system: 3900x with 4x16GB E-Dies
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Second system: 3700x with 4x8GB B-Dies
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Tried some ccd/ccx oc with the 3900x but eventually reverted to default with some bios tweaks only (for gaming and this membench its running 128w,85a,130a (ppt,tdc,edc) e.g. as that one doesn't really cause fps drops.) pretty much same for the 3700x just that that ones running on the default 65w settings.


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post Oct 10 2019, 07:51 PM

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Hi Guys, curious if anyone managed to overclock tighter timings on the F4-3600C18D-16GTZN? Definitely not B-die though sad.gif

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post Oct 10 2019, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(TerryZeroX @ Oct 10 2019, 07:51 PM)
Hi Guys, curious if anyone managed to overclock tighter timings on the  F4-3600C18D-16GTZN? Definitely not B-die though sad.gif

Trident Z Neo
DDR4-3600MHz CL18-22-22-42 1.35V
16GB (2x8GB)
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Is your kit Micron B-die? Thats what I have on the Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 3600c18-22-22-42.
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post Oct 11 2019, 01:56 AM

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QUOTE(raydenex @ Oct 10 2019, 10:54 PM)
Is your kit Micron B-die? Thats what I have on the Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 3600c18-22-22-42.
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Its SK Hynix, not sure which die though rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(TerryZeroX @ Oct 10 2019, 07:51 PM)
Hi Guys, curious if anyone managed to overclock tighter timings on the  F4-3600C18D-16GTZN? Definitely not B-die though sad.gif

Trident Z Neo
DDR4-3600MHz CL18-22-22-42 1.35V
16GB (2x8GB)
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most likely cjr/cfr. if cjr can try 16-19-19/16-20-20. 1.35-1.4v? smile.gif

micron b on ven pro 2666 (ver 3.31) was pretty hopeless on tight timing, did 3600 @ 18 22 22 1.35v. not much headroom (above 3600) too from d way i see it... sweat.gif

btw, u can run thaiphoon burner to vrify d exact chips used on those trident z neo sticks if you have not know. thumbsup.gif

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post Oct 11 2019, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Oct 11 2019, 08:57 AM)
most likely cjr/cfr. if cjr can try 16-19-19/16-20-20. 1.35-1.4v?  smile.gif

micron b on ven pro 2666 (ver 3.31) was pretty hopeless on tight timing, did 3600 @ 18 22 22 1.35v. not much headroom (above 3600) too from d way i see it...   sweat.gif

btw, u can run thaiphoon burner to vrify d exact chips used on those trident z neo sticks if you have not know.  thumbsup.gif
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Awesome, thanks for the tip. It indeed is CJR, will try to push those timings and see. thumbup.gif thumbup.gif

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post Nov 24 2019, 01:25 AM

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is it me who is slow or amd lifted d 2666 ram frequency cap on athlon 200GE?

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post Nov 24 2019, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Nov 24 2019, 01:25 AM)
is it me who is slow or amd lifted d 2666 ram frequency cap on athlon 200GE?

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😂 not really into these APUs but I remember that starting with AGESA 1006 most board manufacturers enabled OC and even allowed pci lane unlocking.
So ya, you're either one year late or you just updated the boards bios to a version including an AGESA that enabled it. Or maybe you just changed boards.

So ya, go for 4Ghz and 3200 👍

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post Dec 1 2019, 01:46 PM

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Neo 3800 CL14-16-16-36 @ 1.50V kit turns out to be a Samsung D-die, not B-die as I thought earlier biggrin.gif
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Not Samsung B-die like I though it would be, several media outlets also reported it as such, but the 3800CL14 kit is D-die. After some research, turns out B-die has been end-of-life'd, and most RAM manufacturers are reserving the B-die chips for the highest end kits(such as DDR4000 or quad channel kits). A bit of a bummer, but these D-die chips are doing very well, so I cant really be that upset.
Source: Newegg

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non HT chip seemed to be doin pretty ok on hp 32m... 1st time to rch < 10mins on AMD... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Jan 5 2020, 04:38 PM)
non HT chip seemed to be doin pretty ok on hp 32m... 1st time to rch < 10mins on AMD...  tongue.gif
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HT off is faster on HyperPi, not sure bug or what smile.gif
BTW isn't that 3500X only available in China?
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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jan 5 2020, 10:25 PM)
HT off is faster on HyperPi, not sure bug or what smile.gif
BTW isn't that 3500X only available in China?
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same scenario for r3 1300x which did 10 mins+ when was on ab350m too bro hence d assumption. smile.gif

some sellers in SG managed to bring it in bro, that's why managed to get my hands on it. not alot cheaper than 3600 but suitable for those really on tight budget... sweat.gif


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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Jan 5 2020, 11:01 PM)
same scenario for r3 1300x which did 10 mins+ when was on ab350m too bro hence d assumption.  smile.gif

some sellers in SG managed to bring it in bro, that's why managed to get my hands on it. not alot cheaper than 3600 but suitable for those really on tight budget...  sweat.gif
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Ya 3500X is a good choice for budget users.
However, gaming nowadays needs HT otherwise frame rates especially min fps will suffer.

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post Jan 15 2020, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Oct 11 2019, 08:57 AM)
most likely cjr/cfr. if cjr can try 16-19-19/16-20-20. 1.35-1.4v?  smile.gif

micron b on ven pro 2666 (ver 3.31) was pretty hopeless on tight timing, did 3600 @ 18 22 22 1.35v. not much headroom (above 3600) too from d way i see it...  sweat.gif

btw, u can run thaiphoon burner to vrify d exact chips used on those trident z neo sticks if you have not know.  thumbsup.gif
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Sorry for bringing up an older topic, but I've been looking for cheaper 3200Mhz 16GB ram which would work (PnP) with Ryzen 3600 + Asrock B450 Steel Legend.

So far, some comments on Shopee were showing Micro D-die (Corsair LPX CMK16GX4M2Z3200C16 v3.33) works PnP, while I found a v3.31 (Micron B-die).

I've been looking for Micron because it's cheaper, but also thanks to this forum: https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/...en-3000.259495/

Can I safely say that: Micron Dies is unable set tighter timings (only loose timings), but would provide close latency with Samsung B-dies which is set at tighter timings?
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Micron e is capable of high frequency (especially highly binned) minus d tight timing of samsung. Micron b die is abit hopeless.

Cheap micron e is capable of 3800 +/- 200mhz with rather ok timing

Ven pro ver 3.31 (micron b) max out at 3600 cl18.
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Jan 15 2020, 09:11 PM)
Micron e is capable of high frequency (especially highly binned) minus d tight timing of samsung. Micron b die is abit hopeless.

Cheap micron e is capable of 3800 +/- 200mhz with rather ok timing

Ven pro ver 3.31 (micron b) max out at 3600 cl18.
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mine cheap micron e only 3900 c16 25 25
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Micron E-Die (C9BJZ Chip) on my Gigabyte X370 Gaming 5 + Ryzen 1700 4x8GB 3600Mhz shocking.gif
Just Follow Setting, This is Crazy Easy
P/S : This is buy from China, Not Sure This Selling in Malaysia or not

But The Ram Sticker Write Made in Malaysia rclxub.gif


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