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TSsuperuserz
post Aug 2 2018, 11:05 AM, updated 8y ago

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I have a laptop here. May I know the M.2 slot interface on laptop is SATA or Nvme ?

If I buy a M.2 Mvme drive, would it backward compatible with M.2 SATA 6Gbps?

What's the Max speed this laptop can support?
-PCI-E 2.0 x2
-PCI-E 2.0 x4
-PCI-E 3.0 x2
-PCI-E 3.0 x4

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post Aug 2 2018, 11:13 AM

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I'm pretty sure it won't work. Generally NVMe slots won't be connected to a SATA controller so if you plug in a SATA based M.2 drive it just won't work, and vice versa. I'm not sure if there are any slots in existence that work with both.

What's the model of the laptop? I don't think there's a way we can tell from looking at the slot since M.2 slots whether they are meant for NVMe or SATA drives are both physically the same.
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post Aug 2 2018, 11:31 AM

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m.2 nvme/pcie ssd cannot put on m.2 sata slot, it wont recognize;

but m.2 sata ssd might can put on m.2 pcie (need to check with laptop manual)
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post Aug 2 2018, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(RViN @ Aug 2 2018, 11:13 AM)
I'm pretty sure it won't work. Generally NVMe slots won't be connected to a SATA controller so if you plug in a SATA based M.2 drive it just won't work, and vice versa. I'm not sure if there are any slots in existence that work with both.

What's the model of the laptop? I don't think there's a way we can tell from looking at the slot since M.2 slots whether they are meant for NVMe or SATA drives are both physically the same.
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The laptop is Nexstgo NS14N1.
There's no datasheet on their official website, support is not replying to my email.

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post Aug 2 2018, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(kobanpro @ Aug 2 2018, 11:31 AM)
m.2 nvme/pcie ssd cannot put on m.2 sata slot, it wont recognize;

but m.2 sata ssd might can put on m.2 pcie (need to check with laptop manual)
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Are you able to identify my laptop is M.2 SATA or M.2 Nvme ?
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post Aug 2 2018, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(superuserz @ Aug 2 2018, 11:35 AM)
The laptop is Nexstgo NS14N1.
There's no datasheet on their official website, support is not replying to my email.
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Well looking at this (check the diagram):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M.2#Form_factors_and_keying

Seems like yours is M-keyed, which indicates it is keyed to support PCIe-x4.

But this doesn't mean its not connected to a SATA controller, as the paragraph in the wiki describes. Seems like there's no way to tell from just looking at the physical slot.
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post Aug 2 2018, 01:01 PM

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QUOTE(superuserz @ Aug 2 2018, 12:35 PM)
The laptop is Nexstgo NS14N1.
There's no datasheet on their official website, support is not replying to my email.
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You can refers to their website :-

https://www.nexstgo.com/my/product/su-series/support
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post Aug 2 2018, 01:36 PM

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since your are laptop, maybe u can bring the laptop to the shop to ask for test plug before buying it. but all the shop can let u test first.
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post Aug 2 2018, 03:17 PM

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i also got the same question as well

but the interface for the ssd not same tho, whats the differences the 2 in pic
can both put into the same m.2 slot?


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post Aug 2 2018, 05:34 PM

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since u lack of mobo info, best way is to bring to shop n ask them test for u...

coz, both are not competible..



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QUOTE(1qaz1qaz @ Aug 2 2018, 03:17 PM)
i  also got the same question as well

but the interface for the ssd not same tho, whats the differences the 2 in pic
can both put into the same m.2 slot?
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QUOTE(psyduck89 @ Aug 2 2018, 05:36 PM)
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but both also can put in to same m.2 slot?
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post Aug 2 2018, 05:42 PM

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QUOTE(1qaz1qaz @ Aug 2 2018, 05:37 PM)
but both also can put in to same m.2 slot?
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erm...
i think depends on the mobo socket...

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M.2 SSD Buyers Checklist:
Whether your motherboard/notebook supports M.2 SATA or M.2 PCI-Express (hint: check the specs page!)
The type of keying (B/M/B+M) supported by the motherboard/notebook socket
If it is PCI Express, whether it supports 2x or 4x PCI-Express
The maximum length of SSD drive supported (2232 to 22110) (hint: it should say on the PCB)


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QUOTE(psyduck89 @ Aug 2 2018, 05:42 PM)
erm...
i think depends on the mobo socket...
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okok tyvm now i get it

So the below info i get it on mobo website, so my mobo can support m.2 pcie nvme ssd key-m rite?


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QUOTE(1qaz1qaz @ Aug 2 2018, 05:50 PM)
okok tyvm now i get it

So the below info i get it on mobo website, so my mobo can support m.2 pcie nvme ssd key-m rite?
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post Aug 2 2018, 06:32 PM

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QUOTE(1qaz1qaz @ Aug 2 2018, 05:50 PM)
okok tyvm now i get it

So the below info i get it on mobo website, so my mobo can support m.2 pcie nvme ssd key-m rite?
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Wow it could support fastest M.2 PCIe SSD like Samsung Pro/Evo.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4172951
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QUOTE(jemmi @ Aug 2 2018, 06:32 PM)
Wow it could support fastest M.2 PCIe SSD like Samsung Pro/Evo.
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4172951
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hmm? what do u mean?
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post Aug 3 2018, 08:52 AM

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QUOTE(1qaz1qaz @ Aug 2 2018, 06:45 PM)
hmm? what do u mean?
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M.2 sata version too slow compare with M.2 PCIe 4x version. Refer the samsung link inside there. I can feel it when compare my macbook 2014 with my friend macbook 2017. Double/triple the ssd speed different.

I suggest TS could invest with M.2 PCIe 4x SSD, just get 256GB evo or cheaper version(oem) like this:
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4626495


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post Aug 27 2018, 06:49 PM

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post Aug 27 2018, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(superuserz @ Aug 2 2018, 11:35 AM)
The laptop is Nexstgo NS14N1.
There's no datasheet on their official website, support is not replying to my email.
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Have you try the nvme ssd on your Nexstgo NS14N1?

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post Aug 29 2018, 12:22 AM

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LTT forums confirmed that JSSD1 port only supports Sata Speed(6 Gigabit per second).
Well sadly it doesn't support nvme. sad.gif

This post has been edited by ljl87: Aug 29 2018, 12:23 AM
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post Aug 29 2018, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(superuserz @ Aug 2 2018, 11:05 AM)
I have a laptop here. May I know the M.2 slot interface on laptop is SATA or Nvme ?

If I buy a M.2 Mvme drive, would it backward compatible with M.2 SATA 6Gbps?

What's the Max speed this laptop can support?
-PCI-E 2.0 x2
-PCI-E 2.0 x4
-PCI-E 3.0 x2
-PCI-E 3.0 x4

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M.2 sockets are rather confusing.. I did quite some research on it awhile ago.. from the socket itself, it's really hard to tell what protocol it supports. The best answer you could get is from the manufacturer themselves. Or else, you might want to try dig around in your BIOS (hopefully it could show some hint) or worst case scenario, trial and error.

For my case (Dell Vostro) the M.2 socket does support both SATA and PCIE protocol. How I got to know is by downloading the device official service manual and found out that the official supported SSD is SATA based and as for PCIE support, I need to email them, get their team to check on the BIOS to verify, in the BIOS it has a setting allows user to toggle the M.2 protocol to run on SATA or PCIE .

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post Aug 29 2018, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(ljl87 @ Aug 29 2018, 12:22 AM)
JSSD1 only indicates its for SSD. The forum post shows that it's a mSATA port instead of M.2 like OP one.

By the way the manual from the website shown this.




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