right...

which is why i'm not sure if should buy another brand/model when i need a new box.

simply afraid i pay too much n not get what i want!

i just watched infinity wars on bdmv with q10pro + hdr tv - awesome.

i bet the 4k hdr version will come out even more stunning.

Zidoo x9s (realtek 1295 chipset) can do full bluray menus as well. I have both Q10 pro and Zidoo. It already has auto frame rate and resolution sync as part of the android settings option. It also has extra hdmi input for pvr function. No internal hard disk bay though, which is found only in the higher model.

Even Zidoo DVD menus are also full navigation whereas Q10 pro can't do it ( still on 2.0.8 fw). For my old DVD concert collection menus and bonus features are important.

It is weaker in android functions though, with only android 6.

This post has been edited by Ngto: Aug 3 2018, 10:36 PM

Ok, good to know.

For full BD menu, himedia, egreat, zidoo.

DVD menu... yes, no full menu, only mini menu at media center, similar to mini bd menu for old gen models.

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Aug 4 2018, 12:12 AM

Does the zidoo also have uhd menu? Interested to see if the auto frame rate / resolution works as well as Himedia. Not many can do it right.

Quick question...

What base resolution and frame rate do u use?

Unfortunately for now, as far as full Blu-ray ISOs are concerned, my collections are mostly 3D blurays iso (about 100). A few have problems with full menus of course, just like Q10 pro. But they have no problem playing with lite menus.

For 4k I am still not collecting yet due to storage size. For now I only have a handful of 4k mkvs and only one 4k ISO (Fantastic Beasts....).

The 4k menu (photo taken with my phone camera) is shown below. The zidoo home screen camera pic is next to it (1080p)

As for Zidoo auto frame rate and resolution , I can't say for sure if it's correctly implemented. It looks smooth to me, but then it could be my TV motion feature.

They are still developing their FW though and just released another update. If you have the money you are welcome to buy and try. The x9s is slightly cheaper than the q10pro. I suggest also to update to their latest FW before testing.

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Can check the tv... a button on to remote to show what is displayed.. e.g 2160p 24hz hdr or 1080p 60hz, etc.

If same as video file specs, it is doing correctly.

My Samsung TV shows it as 2160p 24p (top right of screen) as in pic, but when the movie plays, this appears briefly on the screen :-

2160p/23.976hz

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I use 4.4.4 YCbCr 10bit. It actually sends out 12 bit even though it says 10bit . 2160p/24Hz

Correction...I retested and it's actually 10bit and not 12bit.

This post has been edited by anfieldude: Aug 4 2018, 02:25 PM

2160p/24hz... is good if u mostly playback 4k 24hz.

i set base to 1080p 50hz as that is the most common for online streams which i use a lot.
a bit irritating whenever it changes from 2160p to 1080p whenever i change channel!
also... my eyes tell me a 1080p video is better off with q10pro set at 1080p, let TV do upscaling.
if i set it to 2160p, a 1080p video does not come out as nice... maybe "overupscaled" or my TV or AVR is cheap?!

space color 444 send out 12 bit.... that's interesting... but how wud u know?

but overall, the auto frame rate +auto resolution features are very useful.
it changes to 720p when playing a DVD folder, nice too!

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Aug 4 2018, 12:53 PM

I use the q10 pro primarily for UHD or BD playback only.

I hv a HDFury Vertex that I used in between the Q10pro and the LG OLED to confirm the outcome of the autoFMT patch.

It works like Oppo's source direct mode and that's good actually. Ur display might have better scaling than the q10 pro. One thing I don't like is the Imprex engine but at least it can be turned off.

This post has been edited by anfieldude: Aug 4 2018, 01:14 PM

Uhd or bdmv... likely imprex not useful.

For other videos, i like imprex on, adds color n vibrancy.

Was playing an old dvd folder... eagles hell freezes over 1994.

Auto switched to 720p 60z.... nice!

On another note, the q10 pro sends out 23.974 instead of 23.976 even when it says it's sending out 23.976. This is the same for autoFMT or not.

Correction ...just retested and find that it is indeed 10bit when 10 bit is selected. Not sure why the last time it jumped to 12 bit. For 1080p it does move to 12bit YCbCr 4.4.4 even when 10 bit is selected. So maybe I mixed up 1080p vs 2160p.

About space color 444, 422 or 420...

For normal movie, tv videos and not professional cameras or photos, does it make any diff?

Some say 420 is as good as 444, nothing lost...?

Talking about Eagles DVD, I transferred some of the my old DVD concerts to my thumb drive to do some testing on the Zidoo Home Theatre 2.0 poster etc.

It automatically scanned from the internet and got the following covers and info very accurately , although they are very old titles. For now the DVDs are mistakenly tagged as BD though lol 😄

I already got the HD DVD eagles farewell tour concert, so the Hell Freezes Over DVD is relegated 😊

Poster wall with Large icons and Medium icons .

Ok, sorry this is my last Zidoo post in Himedia thread 🙏


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It is actually.

All BDs and UHD BDs are encoded in 4.2.0 to save space (10bit for UHD BD vs 8bit for BD).

The BD spec does not allow sending of YCbCr 4.2.0 to the display (but UHD BD spec does allow).

The conversion needs to be done somewhere as the display will ultimately convert it to RGB to display the content.

The conversions are maths but some displays behave differently depending on whether they receive a YCbCr 4.2.0/4.2.2 or 4.4.4 or even RGB signal.

So u would need to know how ur display does the conversions to show the least errors. Chroma subsampling conversion and upsampling can be done differently either bicubic/bilinear or nearest neighbour and it all depends on the processing power and others.

U can read a little more here;

Spears & Munsil - Colour Space

Since all displays are different, u will need to use the right tools to decide which is best.

Hehe... u got all i have too.

The best one, imo, is eagles at capitol center 1977...remastered in dtshdma... when randy meisner was still with the band.

Anyway, there will be no more, never the same... as glenn frey has passed away....

This post has been edited by AVFAN: Aug 4 2018, 06:50 PM

Their music will live on forever 👍👍. I don't have the Capital Center one though, will look for it next 👌

This post has been edited by Ngto: Aug 4 2018, 07:21 PM

enjoy... hotel california.
so very 70's... blue jeans, long hair...

a true masterpiece.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9COMaw3bjzs