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post Sep 28 2023, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Sep 28 2023, 11:58 AM)
tat only for US market. EU also getting C845
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That's why lo

Last time Samsung phone also same . Malaysia and Europe get lousy Exynos CPU.
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post Sep 28 2023, 12:10 PM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ Sep 28 2023, 10:56 AM)
But the dimming zone very low
576 for 65"

C845 FALD (Local dimming)
55".....480 zones
65".....576 zones
75".....720 zones
85".....896 zones
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My QN85C have 720 zones for 65" biggrin.gif

Too bad no Dolby Vision but not a big deal to me. HDR scenes are still very impactful
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Sep 28 2023, 12:07 PM)
That's why lo

Last time Samsung phone also same . Malaysia and Europe get lousy Exynos CPU.
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i can say is, we should be grateful that they brought in c845 so u dont have to pay 12k to buy samsung instead sweat.gif



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post Sep 28 2023, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 28 2023, 12:10 PM)
My QN85C have 720 zones for 65" biggrin.gif

Too bad no Dolby Vision but not a big deal to me. HDR scenes are still very impactful
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Ya better than QN95B which only have 500 zone.


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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Sep 28 2023, 12:10 PM)
i can say is, we should be grateful that they brought in c845 so u dont have to pay 12k to buy samsung instead  sweat.gif
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Why pay 12k? QN85C can be had for 7.5k only (i bought on July, should be cheaper now). Image quality I cant say which is better but I can say I am very satisfied with mine, blooming is almost none existence

But anyway if you insist on dolby vision in the first place then samsung is obviously out

QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Aug 15 2023, 07:50 PM)
A quick review / feedback of my 65" QN85C after I've been using it for a week. Decided to do this since the model is the only Neo QLED miniled model to have 65 inch and above unless u decide to go for QN95C. (QN90C only have 43 and 50"). U can skip to bottom if TLDR

Some context, this is my first TV purchase for my new house. Never had any ownership experience with any brands or models before, but did a lot of study and research online and based on that Samsung was not my first choice initially (no Dolby Vision, Tizen OS etc). I've always been a fan of Sony and naturally wanted their TV as well based on mostly good feedback and reviews.

So how did I end up with Samsung? Initially I set my eyes on OLED (LG or Sony), but after careful consideration regarding budget and taking into account my usage, I decided to skip OLED and go for miniLED instead. However when it comes to miniLED the choice is very limited in our market. Long story short I decided the QN85C would be the best compromise when it comes to image quality and features for my budget (wanted QN95B but couldnt find one for my budget range)

Summary of pros and cons. Usage is mostly youtube and netflix

Pros
- Very slim and nice design, especially if you are wall mounting

- Almost complete feature set for a mid-high end TV including  4x 48gbps HDMI 2.1 (no other brands except LG provide this)

- Overall image quality is very good after playing around with the settings. It also gets bright enough during HDR scenes (~1200 nits). There's also very minimal blooming during dark scenes when I set local dimming to High (there's low and standard setting). 720 dimming zones + miniLED really helps. I can probably say there is almost no blooming (OLED like) unless i go and look for it. I use local dimming high for HDR content and local dimming standard for SDR.

- The sound quality from the TV speakers is OK, I would say above average after changing some settings. Definitely good enough for most users. One advantage for Samsung TVs is you get Q Symphony when u pair the TV with one of their good soundbars like Q990B/C which I plan to do in the near future.

Cons
- The Tizen OS. Its not as bad as I would expect actually. Like most complaints are regarding the usability, but I got used to it very fast and the 2023 version have a few improvements like the quick settings menu. Still once a while I get some lag or stuttering while navigating the menu and settings, also the available apps are not as much as Google TV for sure. The biggest issue was on the first day where my wifi would disconnect randomly and refuse to connect back eventhough my wifi is fine, only after i reset the network settings then it would work, but it would still disconnect after a few hours or next day. Googled and found out that its a common Samsung TV issued. Did a fix and now its no longer disconnecting so all good there, but I imagine this would put a lot of people off who just got their new TV.

- No Dolby Vision. I just included this here because it is what it is. But to be honest for me.... I dont think it matters nor you can tell the difference unless you are very used to Dolby Vision content until you can tell the difference or you have another similar range TV for comparison side by side. The image quality itself even without Dolby Vision already looks very good in HDR. Maybe its not accurate but who cares unless you do, then you are probably better off with Sony

- Content upscaling, motion handling may not be as good as Sony. Again I dont have a Sony to compare or owned a Sony before to know, but some 1080p or 720p videos from Youtube look exactly the same (as in you can tell its lower resolution). I'm not sure how well Sony does in this regard.

- Reflection handling is quite bad. This is probably the biggest con for me. My TV is near the sliding door to the balcony, and during day time the reflection is pretty bad especially during dark scenes. Fortunately for HDR it gets bright enough to overcome the reflection but you still can see reflections during dark scenes. If u plan to get this TV, make sure its not near any window or door openings for optimal viewing.

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Conclusion I am very satisfied with the TV for the price (got it for 7.5k including wall bracket and installation). There's no better choice for miniLED in this price tbh unless u can find a new QN95B or go for Sony X90L/X90K but those are not miniLED. My heart is still with Sony though biggrin.gif my next TV will most probably be Sony, hopefully can afford their QD OLED or miniLED by that time
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Sep 28 2023, 12:11 PM)
Ya better than QN95B which only have 500 zone.
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QN95B also 720 zones i think. But the dimming algorithm is more aggressive and it gets much brighter in HDR

This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Sep 28 2023, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Sep 28 2023, 12:10 PM)
i can say is, we should be grateful that they brought in c845 so u dont have to pay 12k to buy samsung instead  sweat.gif
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I'd only go for another TCL tv once they improve on the software experience, I'm talking about navigating through the TV OS and apps, typing and browsing the youtube app which is really sluggish on my 65C635
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 28 2023, 12:14 PM)
Why pay 12k? QN85C can be had for 7.5k only (i bought on July, should be cheaper now). Image quality I cant say which is better but I can say I am very satisfied with mine, blooming is almost none existence

But anyway if you insist on dolby vision in the first place then samsung is obviously out
QN95B also 720 zones i think. But the dimming algorithm is more aggressive and it gets much brighter in HDR
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yeah i just compare top of the line vs top of the line. outside US C845 is top of the line, it can reach 2000nits also. HDR is not all about local dimming also. 1 mediocre TV with local dimming but low brightness, means the local dimming make no diff and make it worse because of blooming (hisense u7h). ya 2000nits maybe overkill but it can pops when it does. im just implying that c845 is fairly priced. Dolby vision is much more better than HDR10 for content mastered for it. as far as my OLED screen tells me la lol. the local dimming also need good algorithm.

gonna wait longer and see, c745 would be a better mid ground TV.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Sep 28 2023, 12:20 PM)
yeah i just compare top of the line vs top of the line. outside US C845 is top of the line, it can reach 2000nits also. HDR is not all about local dimming also. 1 mediocre TV with local dimming but low brightness, means the local dimming make no diff and make it worse because of blooming (hisense u7h). ya 2000nits maybe overkill but it can pops when it does. im just implying that c845 is fairly priced. Dolby vision is much more better than HDR10 for content mastered for it. as far as my OLED screen tells me la lol. the local dimming also need good algorithm.

gonna wait longer and see, c745 would be a better mid ground TV.
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I think C845 was always meant as the mid range miniled for markets out of US. The flagship is now C955

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Anyway not sure if TCL already fixed the local dimming bug for C845

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post Sep 28 2023, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(ZY2016 @ Aug 3 2023, 08:24 PM)
Should get bigger size, I had 55" for sharp now with 75" now feel need to get 85 or 90" with 2.5m viewing distant.
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Agreed.

I don't know why people still buy 65"

We should move to 75/77/85/86

Malaysian are of slow tech acceptance

Malaysian are being cheated by distance Vs screen size

Distance Vs screen size is stupid

Just get the biggest you can afford
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Sep 28 2023, 12:43 PM)
Agreed.

I don't know why people still buy 65"

We should move to 75/77/85/86

Malaysian are of slow tech acceptance

Malaysian are being cheated by distance Vs screen size

Distance Vs screen size is stupid

Just get the biggest you can afford
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Bro do you know how big is 75"? Not everyone have the space to accomodate that
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post Sep 28 2023, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 28 2023, 12:31 PM)
I think C845 was always meant as the mid range miniled for markets out of US. The flagship is now C955

Anyway not sure if TCL already fixed the local dimming bug for C845
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The flagship is X955.

X955
85".....5184 zones
98".....5184 zones
Peak: 5000cd/m2; Typ.:720cd/m2

https://www.tcl.com/global/en/tvs/x955

C955
85".....2304 zones
98".....2160 zones
Peak: 2000-2400cd/m2; Typ.:600-700cd/m2

https://www.tcl.com/global/en/tvs/c955


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post Sep 28 2023, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 28 2023, 12:45 PM)
Bro do you know how big is 75"? Not everyone have the space to accomodate that
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Impossible you don't have wall that have 75" size. I don't believe you
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post Sep 28 2023, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(vapanel @ Sep 28 2023, 12:43 PM)
Agreed.

I don't know why people still buy 65"

We should move to 75/77/85/86

Malaysian are of slow tech acceptance

Malaysian are being cheated by distance Vs screen size

Distance Vs screen size is stupid

Just get the biggest you can afford
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one thing i wonder...

does the purchase of c845 include installation?

or just delivery, u diy the rest?

say, if u have an old 75" to dispose, how ar...? biggrin.gif

QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 28 2023, 12:45 PM)
Bro do you know how big is 75"? Not everyone have the space to accomodate that
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very true.

i can do largest 60" as that's how big the wall panel is.

for another room, max 55" allowed by the cabinet.

but sure.... if u hv all the space, 100, 200" can do also! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 28 2023, 01:18 PM)
one thing i wonder...

does the purchase of c845 include installation?

or just delivery, u diy the rest?

say, if u have an old 75" to dispose, how ar...? biggrin.gif
very true.

i can do largest 60" as that's how big the wall panel is.

for another room, max 55" allowed by the cabinet.

but sure.... if u hv all the space, 100, 200" can do also! laugh.gif
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TCL cheapo

Charge you for installation

https://shp.ee/q9k2ewb
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Sep 28 2023, 01:20 PM)
TCL cheapo

Charge you for installation

https://shp.ee/q9k2ewb
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hmm... ok, i will diy then.

but how to dispose old tv? rent n pay a truck?! ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 28 2023, 01:23 PM)
hmm... ok, i will diy then.

but how to dispose old tv? rent n pay a truck?!  ohmy.gif
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Donation truck?
Spoilt already? Else can use in other room.

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QUOTE(vapanel @ Sep 27 2023, 10:17 PM)
I hope my TV spoilt soon

But all my TV last more than 10 years

My plasma TV still survive

My lg 3d TV still survive

Oh god
If like this how to buy new TV???
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wow u still got plasma tv. geng!
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post Sep 28 2023, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(minano0001 @ Sep 28 2023, 04:01 PM)
wow u still got plasma tv. geng!
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ya TV last very long time for me.

I'm very disappointed.
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Which is better C845 or QN85B .. price wise QN85B is under RM5500.. both 65"
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QUOTE(mirzan007 @ Sep 28 2023, 05:10 PM)
Which is better C845 or QN85B .. price wise QN85B is under RM5500.. both 65"
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QN85B is ADS panel. Comparing the 2, C845 will be better

If u ok with Samsung (no Dolby Vision) go for this year QN85C instead which is VA panel with better picture processing

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