QUOTE(ben3003 @ Sep 28 2023, 11:58 AM)
That's why loLast time Samsung phone also same . Malaysia and Europe get lousy Exynos CPU.
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Sep 28 2023, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Sep 28 2023, 12:07 PM) i can say is, we should be grateful that they brought in c845 so u dont have to pay 12k to buy samsung instead Jenn77 liked this post
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Sep 28 2023, 12:11 PM
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Sep 28 2023, 12:14 PM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Sep 28 2023, 12:10 PM) i can say is, we should be grateful that they brought in c845 so u dont have to pay 12k to buy samsung instead Why pay 12k? QN85C can be had for 7.5k only (i bought on July, should be cheaper now). Image quality I cant say which is better but I can say I am very satisfied with mine, blooming is almost none existence But anyway if you insist on dolby vision in the first place then samsung is obviously out QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Aug 15 2023, 07:50 PM) A quick review / feedback of my 65" QN85C after I've been using it for a week. Decided to do this since the model is the only Neo QLED miniled model to have 65 inch and above unless u decide to go for QN95C. (QN90C only have 43 and 50"). U can skip to bottom if TLDR Some context, this is my first TV purchase for my new house. Never had any ownership experience with any brands or models before, but did a lot of study and research online and based on that Samsung was not my first choice initially (no Dolby Vision, Tizen OS etc). I've always been a fan of Sony and naturally wanted their TV as well based on mostly good feedback and reviews. So how did I end up with Samsung? Initially I set my eyes on OLED (LG or Sony), but after careful consideration regarding budget and taking into account my usage, I decided to skip OLED and go for miniLED instead. However when it comes to miniLED the choice is very limited in our market. Long story short I decided the QN85C would be the best compromise when it comes to image quality and features for my budget (wanted QN95B but couldnt find one for my budget range) Summary of pros and cons. Usage is mostly youtube and netflix Pros - Very slim and nice design, especially if you are wall mounting - Almost complete feature set for a mid-high end TV including 4x 48gbps HDMI 2.1 (no other brands except LG provide this) - Overall image quality is very good after playing around with the settings. It also gets bright enough during HDR scenes (~1200 nits). There's also very minimal blooming during dark scenes when I set local dimming to High (there's low and standard setting). 720 dimming zones + miniLED really helps. I can probably say there is almost no blooming (OLED like) unless i go and look for it. I use local dimming high for HDR content and local dimming standard for SDR. - The sound quality from the TV speakers is OK, I would say above average after changing some settings. Definitely good enough for most users. One advantage for Samsung TVs is you get Q Symphony when u pair the TV with one of their good soundbars like Q990B/C which I plan to do in the near future. Cons - The Tizen OS. Its not as bad as I would expect actually. Like most complaints are regarding the usability, but I got used to it very fast and the 2023 version have a few improvements like the quick settings menu. Still once a while I get some lag or stuttering while navigating the menu and settings, also the available apps are not as much as Google TV for sure. The biggest issue was on the first day where my wifi would disconnect randomly and refuse to connect back eventhough my wifi is fine, only after i reset the network settings then it would work, but it would still disconnect after a few hours or next day. Googled and found out that its a common Samsung TV issued. Did a fix and now its no longer disconnecting so all good there, but I imagine this would put a lot of people off who just got their new TV. - No Dolby Vision. I just included this here because it is what it is. But to be honest for me.... I dont think it matters nor you can tell the difference unless you are very used to Dolby Vision content until you can tell the difference or you have another similar range TV for comparison side by side. The image quality itself even without Dolby Vision already looks very good in HDR. Maybe its not accurate but who cares unless you do, then you are probably better off with Sony - Content upscaling, motion handling may not be as good as Sony. Again I dont have a Sony to compare or owned a Sony before to know, but some 1080p or 720p videos from Youtube look exactly the same (as in you can tell its lower resolution). I'm not sure how well Sony does in this regard. - Reflection handling is quite bad. This is probably the biggest con for me. My TV is near the sliding door to the balcony, and during day time the reflection is pretty bad especially during dark scenes. Fortunately for HDR it gets bright enough to overcome the reflection but you still can see reflections during dark scenes. If u plan to get this TV, make sure its not near any window or door openings for optimal viewing. ![]() ![]() ![]() Conclusion I am very satisfied with the TV for the price (got it for 7.5k including wall bracket and installation). There's no better choice for miniLED in this price tbh unless u can find a new QN95B or go for Sony X90L/X90K but those are not miniLED. My heart is still with Sony though QUOTE(vapanel @ Sep 28 2023, 12:11 PM) QN95B also 720 zones i think. But the dimming algorithm is more aggressive and it gets much brighter in HDRThis post has been edited by ZeneticX: Sep 28 2023, 12:15 PM |
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Sep 28 2023, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Sep 28 2023, 12:10 PM) i can say is, we should be grateful that they brought in c845 so u dont have to pay 12k to buy samsung instead I'd only go for another TCL tv once they improve on the software experience, I'm talking about navigating through the TV OS and apps, typing and browsing the youtube app which is really sluggish on my 65C635 Notoriez liked this post
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Sep 28 2023, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 28 2023, 12:14 PM) Why pay 12k? QN85C can be had for 7.5k only (i bought on July, should be cheaper now). Image quality I cant say which is better but I can say I am very satisfied with mine, blooming is almost none existence yeah i just compare top of the line vs top of the line. outside US C845 is top of the line, it can reach 2000nits also. HDR is not all about local dimming also. 1 mediocre TV with local dimming but low brightness, means the local dimming make no diff and make it worse because of blooming (hisense u7h). ya 2000nits maybe overkill but it can pops when it does. im just implying that c845 is fairly priced. Dolby vision is much more better than HDR10 for content mastered for it. as far as my OLED screen tells me la lol. the local dimming also need good algorithm.But anyway if you insist on dolby vision in the first place then samsung is obviously out QN95B also 720 zones i think. But the dimming algorithm is more aggressive and it gets much brighter in HDR gonna wait longer and see, c745 would be a better mid ground TV. |
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Sep 28 2023, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Sep 28 2023, 12:20 PM) yeah i just compare top of the line vs top of the line. outside US C845 is top of the line, it can reach 2000nits also. HDR is not all about local dimming also. 1 mediocre TV with local dimming but low brightness, means the local dimming make no diff and make it worse because of blooming (hisense u7h). ya 2000nits maybe overkill but it can pops when it does. im just implying that c845 is fairly priced. Dolby vision is much more better than HDR10 for content mastered for it. as far as my OLED screen tells me la lol. the local dimming also need good algorithm. I think C845 was always meant as the mid range miniled for markets out of US. The flagship is now C955gonna wait longer and see, c745 would be a better mid ground TV. ![]() Anyway not sure if TCL already fixed the local dimming bug for C845 This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Sep 28 2023, 12:38 PM |
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Sep 28 2023, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(ZY2016 @ Aug 3 2023, 08:24 PM) Should get bigger size, I had 55" for sharp now with 75" now feel need to get 85 or 90" with 2.5m viewing distant. Agreed.I don't know why people still buy 65" We should move to 75/77/85/86 Malaysian are of slow tech acceptance Malaysian are being cheated by distance Vs screen size Distance Vs screen size is stupid Just get the biggest you can afford |
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Sep 28 2023, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Sep 28 2023, 12:43 PM) Agreed. Bro do you know how big is 75"? Not everyone have the space to accomodate thatI don't know why people still buy 65" We should move to 75/77/85/86 Malaysian are of slow tech acceptance Malaysian are being cheated by distance Vs screen size Distance Vs screen size is stupid Just get the biggest you can afford Notoriez liked this post
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Sep 28 2023, 01:00 PM
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 28 2023, 12:31 PM) I think C845 was always meant as the mid range miniled for markets out of US. The flagship is now C955 The flagship is X955. Anyway not sure if TCL already fixed the local dimming bug for C845 X955 85".....5184 zones 98".....5184 zones Peak: 5000cd/m2; Typ.:720cd/m2 https://www.tcl.com/global/en/tvs/x955 C955 85".....2304 zones 98".....2160 zones Peak: 2000-2400cd/m2; Typ.:600-700cd/m2 https://www.tcl.com/global/en/tvs/c955 This post has been edited by stasio: Sep 28 2023, 01:04 PM |
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Sep 28 2023, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Sep 28 2023, 12:43 PM) Agreed. one thing i wonder...I don't know why people still buy 65" We should move to 75/77/85/86 Malaysian are of slow tech acceptance Malaysian are being cheated by distance Vs screen size Distance Vs screen size is stupid Just get the biggest you can afford does the purchase of c845 include installation? or just delivery, u diy the rest? say, if u have an old 75" to dispose, how ar...? QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Sep 28 2023, 12:45 PM) very true.i can do largest 60" as that's how big the wall panel is. for another room, max 55" allowed by the cabinet. but sure.... if u hv all the space, 100, 200" can do also! |
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Sep 28 2023, 01:20 PM
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Sep 28 2023, 01:18 PM) one thing i wonder... TCL cheapodoes the purchase of c845 include installation? or just delivery, u diy the rest? say, if u have an old 75" to dispose, how ar...? very true. i can do largest 60" as that's how big the wall panel is. for another room, max 55" allowed by the cabinet. but sure.... if u hv all the space, 100, 200" can do also! Charge you for installation https://shp.ee/q9k2ewb |
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Sep 28 2023, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(vapanel @ Sep 28 2023, 01:20 PM) hmm... ok, i will diy then.but how to dispose old tv? rent n pay a truck?! |
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Sep 28 2023, 02:05 PM
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Sep 28 2023, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(minano0001 @ Sep 28 2023, 04:01 PM) ya TV last very long time for me.I'm very disappointed. dude06 liked this post
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Sep 28 2023, 05:10 PM
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Which is better C845 or QN85B .. price wise QN85B is under RM5500.. both 65"
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Sep 28 2023, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(mirzan007 @ Sep 28 2023, 05:10 PM) QN85B is ADS panel. Comparing the 2, C845 will be betterIf u ok with Samsung (no Dolby Vision) go for this year QN85C instead which is VA panel with better picture processing This post has been edited by ZeneticX: Sep 28 2023, 06:12 PM |
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