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post Aug 13 2018, 07:48 PM

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Chill bro, if you hit them too hard, and they cannot cope, remove CC from top up, it will backfire and you’ll have no BigPay platform to reload and take advantage of CC.
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post Aug 13 2018, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Aug 13 2018, 07:49 PM)
just too bad then. safety first.
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Need to put the right amount of pressure to them. I still want my 5% or 10% reload. No other platform gives this except BigPay.
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post Aug 20 2018, 10:30 AM

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Does BigPay has any amount of times you top up per day? I did 6X successful with my PBB card but the 7x one, no matter how many times I tried can't go tho.

Called PBB and my card is not blocked.
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post Aug 21 2018, 12:08 AM

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Bought AXA travel insurance online with OTP. No issues with it.

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post Aug 22 2018, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(sjz @ Aug 22 2018, 09:01 AM)
but the problem is the missing topup during relatively peak hours will not be " resolved by itself naturally".
something has to be done.

maybe some upgrading of the capacity etc.
and seem like they are not keen in doing so.

there is always a way in resolving all these issues.
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It’s not as simple as upgrade just like that. There are a lot to investigate, test retest retest again and all. And the problem might not be just at one single point. It could be due to other external factors that we do know about. There are lead time to fix issues. Customers are not always right. You can’t just demand something and expect it to be fixed the next moment.

If you don’t like BigPay and causing you a lot of issues why use them?
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post Aug 22 2018, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(roticanai92 @ Aug 22 2018, 06:48 PM)
So jealous! Wanna try it out too but I guess it'll take a long while til BP sends a new card to those existing users.
I hate it when I go to SG and the merchants there only know how to use Tap, dono how to swipe/pin it even though I know the terminal accepts it.
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I don't like. If I get the wireless card, I'll disable it. Imagine if you lose your card without knowing (happened to me before sweat.gif ), then anyone who pick that up can just wave and this is not credit card (with protection). So I would rather go tho more hassle than lose my money.
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post Aug 22 2018, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(alexanderclz @ Aug 22 2018, 07:21 PM)
there's a freeze function.
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That's if you realised your card is missing soon enough.

Or let's say you're robbed along with your phone (this is a prepaid card I doubt there's protection like credit card), then by the time you freeze it, they might used it somewhere already.

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post Aug 30 2018, 07:32 PM

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QUOTE(BigPayJonathan @ Aug 30 2018, 06:13 PM)
We're going to release the following statement:
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Lazada as I know doesn’t block BigPay. Did my purchases with OTP. I had done 2 times with my account and few more with other accounts.


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post Sep 9 2018, 04:58 PM

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I could not get BigPay in my MasterPass account to pay for my TGV movie tickets. I can add the card, get it verified successfully but I tried to pay 3 times but failed. Then I switched to my other Mastercard, no issue. Transaction went tho.

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post Sep 16 2018, 01:03 PM

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I've a feeling that soon with all these abuse, all good things will come to end. Like me, I am enjoying the benefits of BigPay by using my CC top up that gives me cash back and then use the BigPay card like my other credit card. So all my purchases will entitled to cashback. And for overseas swipes.

With people top up withdraw, it'll be sooner or later it's being revised. Like how the Maybank e-GIA where everyone was abusing it and they revised it. This is why Malaysian could never have good things. Keep abusing it. Use the benefit moderately la but don't do stupid stuff like top up 10k withdraw 10k.

BigPay should just charge 2% fees on each withdraw. Maybe free for the first 2000 per month then subsequently it's 2%. Sorry, I don't believe in what the forumers are doing here.

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post Sep 27 2018, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(beebee1314 @ Sep 27 2018, 11:00 AM)
I believe limit is 10k. Don't do till sharp sharp 10k la. Then reload liao, don't withdraw everything within a week la. Use it to pay regular bills like how u pay using your existing usage lo. Then probably weekly withdrawal will be good, just to pay off your cards.

I.e. Do what you usually do when BP does not exist. Don't tell me you 1 week withdraw all your salary just to pay your monthly expenses meh. Unless you're a cash person lor.
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QUOTE(peri peri @ Sep 27 2018, 11:57 AM)
business survival is the key. dont over abuse it. use it moderately. dont try outsmart by squeezing others without air to breath.

like we always said, u help me i help u.

Now Bigpay card is becoming my main spending card on retail. but online still using others as they having promo code for good deal.
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QUOTE(koala225 @ Sep 27 2018, 12:06 PM)
That's right. People always Like to take benefit from others ppl and expect they did nothing wrong and given reason like is the card feature. Will u keep deposit and make withdrawal all your money frequently in the bank?  If you are the boss who running this business, if a lot of people keep take benefit from your business will u take action or u just let them be and cover your own losses?

Those who lead their account getting bann have to responsible their own behaviour and that person definitely know why u are gonna be banned. Don't blame the company, think what have u done. A real businessman won't banned customers without a reason with their own preference.
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I gave my view about this many many pages back that we should use in moderation and don’t abuse the system else in the end benefits will be taken away but got shot down by comments along the line of if you don’t take advantage then you’re stupid, why not if it’s a product feature so I can use all I want to max it. I gave up and malas nak layan.

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post Oct 4 2018, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(beebee1314 @ Oct 4 2018, 10:58 AM)
Haha my calculations are accurate. Hahaha please read up before you comment.

18% late payment charges, are on annual basis. I once had a late payment charge, not sure which bank. They charge on monthly rest (1.5%). So, let's say i owe them 7k for late payment. 7k, with 1.5%, is RM105. But remember, not everyone pays late. I always pay on time, only that one time was because I forgotten about the statement date, since it's my first time using the card. I got it waived, changed the statement date to sync with all my other card's date.

Let's take it for bigpay now. Rm7k. Most companies such as Airasia, has a very aggressive expansion plan. Our funds represents liquid cash, needed for expansion projects. Yes you can say bigpay is still small, with a small customer base. That's why they are expanding this business. Their aim, is definitely to reach out the greater market. You may own a maybank card, i own a stand chart card. But together, they have 2 bigpay users as their customers.

As things stand, Malaysia has approx 10.3mil credit card in the market, average of 4mil users (below 3k is 2 cards only) but surprisingly, we have almost 36mil card-based e-wallet (prepaid card) users. This means, on average, everyone has 1-2 prepaid cards. I believe this number includes foreigners and etc, just for Malaysia market. Prepaid card is a growing business, growing faster than credit cards + debit cards combined.

If Airasia taps into the e-wallet market and holds 10% of those total, they would have 3.6mil users. If every user reloads average of 5k, they would have RM18bil liquid cash to spin. Airasia is in a very volatile market due to global oil prices. Though they lock the oil prices, they still need to pay contract price when it's due.

Also if you look at the 2016 statistics, we have RM2.7bil overdue credit card balances, representing RM40.5mil finance charges on monthly basis, for various banks. Divide them into 5-6 banks, you barely have 8mil per bank. 18bil per month, with 1% transaction fee, is 180mil, or 36mil per bank. Each banks earns 44mil.

If you see my calculation, what do you think. 18bil revenue less 1%, per month, even throw in FD, can earn 44.5mil on a monthly basis. And that is clean income for Airasia alone.

For you to say my calculations are way off, is rubbish. Airasia is earning way more than bankers themselves. And in a volatile market, with 17.82bil to spin, this represents a more lucrative income than banks.
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Your calculation has alot of assumptions. Firstly you under estimated how many people live of by paying credit card interest. I would say more than half of my friends do not pay full. Credit card debt is one big part of their income and I love people having the debts. Else how do you think banks can afford to dish out 5% cashback, promo and stuff.

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...edit-card-debt/

And for every top-up, BigPay has to pay ~ 1% as the merchant fees. This would already offset whatever you have in your BigPay card that supposedly earning them interest.

And trust me, the average per-card across BigPay is definitely less than 5K per card. You are just plucking figures from the sky. I don't know the exact figure but I've deal with prepaid card industry before, a huge chunk of the card's balance are 0 or almost 0. Majority of Malaysians would only top up when they wanna use.
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post Oct 5 2018, 08:57 AM

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Have anyone withdraw using BigPay in Japan before? I’m heading there and just wanna change a very minimal amount here and withdraw there for a better exchange rate.

But I worry that suddenly cannot work or some ATM makan the card then I’m doomed for the trip.
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QUOTE(coolguy99 @ Oct 5 2018, 09:48 AM)
Always bring an extra cc as backup. Although bigpay can be used overseas it’s always nice to have a backup.
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I'll be bringing few CCs and Debit Card for backup but wanting to take advantage of the rates. Money changer rates here nowhere near as attractive.
QUOTE(fairylord @ Oct 5 2018, 09:58 AM)
Hi, there are few forumers have been using BP in Jpn, but unsure if they had make any withdrawal via ATM. May be you can check with them. I remember there was a member mentioned most of the place need no pin and there was a place reject the card.

Search the keyword of "japan"..

Enjoy your trip.

Mind to share your findings and experience of BP (where are not accepted, swipe/wave) and ATM withdrawal (max amount withdrawal, any fees, which bank ATM) after back from great trip.  thumbup.gif
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Can't find anybody who withdrew in Japan. But i'll sure update once I am back end of the month.
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post Nov 27 2018, 05:10 PM

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Pretty annoyed with BigPay. One of my BlackFriday/CyberMonday US merchant purchase is flagged as potential fraud maybe because I'm using a non-US card mailing the item to US address. Majority of US purchases doesn't require OTP.

They are requesting for the 6 digit authorization code from the bank (in this case BigPay). Normally for banks, a call to them will give me the code. After talking to 2 BigPay CS, I still can't get the code. They say it's not their department and would have to escalate and can't give me any lead time on this.

If they cancel my order because I can't give them the code, I am gonna whack BigPay big time for this issue. And I demand a compensation because after this, I can't get BF/CM prices anymore sad.gif

BigPayJonathan Any comment?
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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Nov 27 2018, 05:18 PM)
no otp but for overseas, there is Address Verification Service (AVS) checking, unlike here in Malaysia which i seldom see being enforced.

anyhow, for authorization code, it should've been accessible by CS, unless (1) their system/crm doesnt cater for it, (2) they dont receive/store it at all, or (3) staff untrained to find it.

interested to hear from BigPayJonathan too, since requesting for authorization code is fairly common for any card transactions, including bigpay too.
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I suspect it's between #1 or #2. I am curious since the gateway is CIMB, do they need to connect to CIMB for it?

Hopefully they could get it out for me. I've already requested them to escalate this as high priority.
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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Nov 27 2018, 05:41 PM)
if i understand bp correctly, it's like this ...

bigpay <-> payment gateway <-> trust account bank (to store all the funds) <-> issuing bank (prepaid card)
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not sure if trust account bank == issuer bank, but it would make sense to be the same bank to provide the e2e facilities to bigpay.
since bigpay also manage the prepaid card, i presume they should have some degree of information stored in their system for operations and support purposes.

bigpay never asks us to contact their bank for info, so i guess bigpay is responsible to manage all card transactions themselves.
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Could be true on what you've described. They've might have some information stored but might not be on CRM directly. Could be somewhere else.

Anyway it's solved, BigPay just called to give me the authorization code for my transaction. At least they are working on the issue which I am happy with their service here. Just that first line of CS should be able to dig information like these without going tho other departments.
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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Nov 27 2018, 05:56 PM)
really like this app's UI  laugh.gif the transaction history even shows the full details like transaction ID and approval code  rclxms.gif
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App looks very intriguing.

QUOTE(jiaen0509 @ Nov 27 2018, 06:01 PM)
Yeah. I notice that there is no transaction number available in BigPay. Instead, they ask ua to provide Date and time... a bit speechless 😶
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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Nov 27 2018, 06:04 PM)
inside exported report, not displayed on app
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It's not the transaction ID in the report. Yeah, that one could be obtained in the report.
It's the approval or some people call it the authorization code. If you see a physical CC slip, you can find it in there.

2 different set of numbers
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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Nov 28 2018, 11:05 AM)
good news, all my pending transactions (screenshot from Excel report) dated back to September, are now SETTLED!  rclxms.gif

only 2 Presto transactions at RM0 were not updated to its proper status (should be DECLINED). anyways, no harm for these.
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I still have pending overseas transaction which I cringe everytime I look at the falling of the ringgit.
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QUOTE(touristking @ Dec 24 2018, 02:31 PM)
Which bank's card and what Telco SIM?
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I've tried in Japan, Singapore and Thailand. No issues. Using Maxis and topped with with PBB.

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