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Prepaid Cards BigPay - Prepaid MasterCard (with Mobile Apps) V2, CashBack, BigPoint & Remittance

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post Aug 7 2018, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(msa9696 @ Aug 7 2018, 11:36 PM)
Seriously do you guys feel safe with so many reported bugs? We're not talking about loyalty card here, it concerns our money, in fact when we use it frequently with lots of transactions, we might not even spot any errors (i.e deducted extra money, balance wrong, etc). I do not check every detail of my credit card, but really feel insecure with this card now.
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I worry if we have transfer a big chunk of money into the card n then suddenly over night the card cannot use n money cannot refund as company tutup kedai. A similar case happened to Obike in Singapore where the users money n deposit in the account now cannot get bavk after Obike bungkus.
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post Aug 7 2018, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Aug 7 2018, 11:53 PM)
Are you seriously expecting AirAsia to tutup kedai?
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Aku mana tahu. Ini kad Bigpay dijamin AA kah? Sila enlighten. Aku masih belum terima kad aku lagi...tongue.gif
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post Aug 8 2018, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Aug 8 2018, 08:01 AM)
buggy apps does not mean our money is "buggy".

the money is still there, just how to access it realiably by the app is the issue.

all bigpay's wallet fund doesnt sit in *someone*'s personal bank account. there is a separate operating account to hold all the funds, all the wallet activities goes thru this account and wallet provider HAS to report to BNM on the account status.

separately, there is an escrow account, committed by the provider, in this case, bigpay. this escrow account is somewhere like 1:1 ratio against the balance in operating account.

e.g. if all the bigpay wallet balances = RM10mil (sits inside operating account), there is a similar equivalent 1:1 fund size in a separate escrow account. think of this is a "guarantor account".

these operating/escrow accounts are governed by the respective (actual) banks where bigpay/provider made agreement with. dont know what are the jargons here, something like both parties are mutually responsible and both accounts are auditable.

imagine the commitment set by AA/bigpay. 1 user = max RM10k wallet size, the amount of total fund size to commit is huge.
there are also reasons why wallet providers are set a certain limit of RM200 (small purse) and RM1500 (large purse) wallet size. only bigpay has a wallet size of RM10k. BNM didnt approve bigpay's this wallet size for no reasons or justifications and commitment by bigpay itself.
not everyone accepts ewallet, let alone see their money on the phone. some would just rather see/touch physical $$ notes or bank booklets as assurance  laugh.gif
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Why 10k limit? Sometimes buy 4-5 AA tickets needs to swipe 10k.
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post Aug 8 2018, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(ClarenceT @ Aug 8 2018, 08:57 AM)
RM10,000 is the maximum.
You can set your own risk limit, say RM500 / RM1000, this level should be accepted by most of the people.
A risk of losing small money (perception) should not discourage you to try and learn a new product/service.
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Huh? We trying to earn the cash back using this card.

but risk losing even 1k is consider small, then the cash back that we earn is smaller than peanuts then.
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post Aug 8 2018, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(shmily86 @ Aug 8 2018, 10:09 AM)
how long the big points will credit to account? ald top up 2K++ a few days ago
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For 2k top up. U earn 40 Big points which is equavalent to 0.41 cents.
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post Aug 8 2018, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(Barricade @ Aug 8 2018, 09:42 AM)
Feels very insecure about this card. Received a notification this morning saying my balance is low ask me to topup. Open up the app and to my horror it shows a RM3k withdrawal i never did today. The card balance becomes negative. doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
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Oh shiat.....you now owe Bigpay how much? Need to pay back... otherwise they may charge u with interest or penalty which dont know got such charges or not. tongue.gif
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post Aug 9 2018, 02:15 AM

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QUOTE(starry @ Aug 9 2018, 12:42 AM)
BigPay app down again...little circle rotating then msg popped up "Failed to load transactions". Same thing happened last night  rclxub.gif
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I just now trying to activate the card but incorrect cv number pula. doh.gif
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post Aug 9 2018, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(Tigerr @ Aug 9 2018, 02:15 AM)
I just now trying to activate the card but incorrect cv number pula. doh.gif
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This morning it is ok already. Activated already
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post Aug 9 2018, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(rapple @ Aug 9 2018, 01:42 PM)
City Link if not mistaken.

edit: 1st and 2nd courier both also drop into mailbox without needing signature.
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Ya...mine also they dropped into the mailbox
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post Aug 9 2018, 04:28 PM

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Tested at Etiqa. Successful
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post Aug 10 2018, 09:25 AM

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QUOTE(wilson1149 @ Aug 10 2018, 09:14 AM)
Bigpay will bankrupt when paying the merchant fee to bank . LOL
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Bigpay tie up with Master card. So mastercard also collect fees from merchants n pay the fee to the bank. Left hand come, right hand goes.
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post Aug 10 2018, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(ClarenceT @ Aug 10 2018, 09:28 AM)
Not equal.
Left hand near 1% cost (Credit card pricing). Right hand less than 0.2% (debit/prepaid card pricing). so will be in deep deficit.
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May be the abundant cash people put into the debit card. They can use part it for cash flow instead of bank borrowing n hence can save 5-6% interest. tongue.gif
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post Aug 10 2018, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(ClarenceT @ Aug 10 2018, 11:03 AM)
Only RM10k max per card. How many BP users they are having? And they cannot simply use the trust fund for own use!
You just got a new BP, so 55xx-xxxx-ABCD-xxxx AB is 02 right? (my AB is 01)
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True woh....
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post Aug 10 2018, 11:35 AM

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Trying few times from morning 10am till now 11.30am failed to top up the Bigpay.....sigh...made few transaction just now using normal cc without any benefits earned as dealing at govt counters.
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QUOTE(Morning_Star @ Aug 10 2018, 12:14 PM)
tan_aniki,'
how do u get RM200 from HLB Fortune ? Per card, max CB is only RM50/mth..?
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Spend 108000 per year. Get rm50 x 12 times = 600 + 1800 bonus = 2400.

So is 200 per month in average. May be a bit more as got interest lagi.

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post Aug 10 2018, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(TongCN @ Aug 10 2018, 11:58 AM)
Weird? I just top up around 11:30 and no problem
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At 10.xx am i tried using mbb (new barce) n uob one card. Both failed.

At 11.30am tried again. Also failed. I then test using mbb MU card at 12.00. Ok woh....but retry using the barce card...still fail. Don't know what happened...
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QUOTE(fairylord @ Aug 10 2018, 01:03 PM)
visa vs master?

edit : MU and Barcelona both are visa, should be visa vs master issue again.
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Not sure. Anyway this month Barce card is easy to finish it as 1k spending only.

Latest update. Tried at 13.15pm. The barce card top up successful already. May be brand new card need time to settle down all the function or system need time to get ready.

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post Aug 10 2018, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(tan_aniki @ Aug 10 2018, 01:25 PM)
HLB Fortune got extra bonus on your 13th month statement, it depends how much you spent throughout 12 months:
RM38k = RM280
RM68k = RM880
RM108k = RM1800
they also given out interest if you don't touch it in another account.
just transfer to your card if you need to offset it.
well explain, no need me to explain more.
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Anyway, how does this fortune card count their annual spending?

Let's say i apply the card yesterday n if i can get it on 25th Aug. (Not sure whether the card anniversary will follow earlier card or approval date of new card). So, how to count the accummulation of the 108000 spending?

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Aug 10 2018, 02:54 PM)
Problem again? I tried to reload RM 200 with my FCB VS and error saying "Oops! Something went wrong. Please use a different method or contact your bank for support."

I want to buy AA ticket now... sad.gif

Edit: After tried again, it works now. Surely buggy.. sweat.gif
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Exactly what happened to me this morning.
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post Aug 11 2018, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(LostAndFound @ Aug 11 2018, 10:12 AM)
Yes, which is why I mentioned specifically the cashback cost. Understood that BigPay is fronting the cost for top ups, which is why I'm agreeable to the 10k limit (obviously not all are). But that cost pales in comparison to the costs being borne by the source banks (cashback costs + fronting the total amount pending repayment).
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If the bank didnt make money, they wont give u the cash back so generously and they will cut the benefit subsequently. Bank earn much more $ from those late payments n the 18% interest every month

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