Apple TV 4K 2017 vs Apple TV 4K 2021

Somehow 2017 Apple TV 4K has better GPU that 2021 Apple TV 4K.

Also Apple TV 4K remote don't have Gyroscope.

Apple TV 4K 2017 is better than Apple TV 4K 2021.

This post has been edited by gogo2: Apr 27 2021, 11:26 AM

Cause dont have 4K TV......

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becoz those content on apple Tv is quite expensive and heard that 4k movie will not be available in malaysia

Me too. But still it's faster in playing game

Feel snappy

I have been buying 4k movie for RM12.90 since last year. Same price as pirated movie. Netflix also 4k.

I think because harder to jailbreak unlike android box. Also for pirated movie, people just dont pay money for it, they download/stream it directly from the box for free.

Well I assume most Apple user don't do piracy.
If you talk about Android user, no doubt about it.

Ppl would prefer those android box where they can get access to much more content compared to Apple TV. Furthermore, you have to pay for each movie. I have the 2nd gen Apple TV and only use it to mirror or surf youtube for my kid

Use to stream Netflix on it but no longer do it

This post has been edited by tarvalslain87: Jul 4 2018, 10:53 AM

If Chinese content maybe. Netflix is the best source for English content.

since when need to pay for jack-sparrow movies ?

I mean hardcopy haha

Hi I have the 4th Gen Apple TV and its really fast. I prefer it anytime then android box, slow and rubbish navigation menu.

Imagine 4k version.

I just bought 64gb version.

Mainly cause you cant walk around with it and put on the restaurant table to show the world you own an Apple...

Haha but still. I use Apple not because of show off. The integration with iPhone , iPad ,Mac book air, is awesome

Yea this I agree. As long as you are ok with paying all the movies, Apple TV is the best.

If not then ppl will opt for android box. Also Apple device users are not many in Malaysia compared to Windows and Android.

I'm thinking of buying Apple TV 4K too due to this but can it play my own 4K movies / series / home videos from my NAS? Can it passthrough Atmos/ DTS-X surround sound from those movies? How about english subtitle?

Apple TV IMO is great. Slightly better user experience than those cheap android box. Been using it for couple of years for streaming local content via Plex, and watching Netflix and Youtube. The only gripe that I could think of is the lack of native TVOS apps that caters for us malaysian, FTA app like RTM and from Media Prima and paid services like iflix, Astro Go, etc. Although it's not Apple's fault. And yes we can airplay some of this services via iOS or a Mac. But the lack of native TVOS support from local TV providers, makes the box feel a lil bit incomplete.

This post has been edited by pokjak: Jul 10 2018, 12:51 PM

That's true.

PQ is also seems to be better because I pay more😂

Hi Guys, total apple tv noob question here.

Do you think its possible to use the Apple TV 4k as a mobile workstation for light computing needs?

Light computing in terms of media streaming and gaming from appstore, yes. But for productivity, not possible. TVOS is different from iOS. Only media streaming apps and games are avaialable in TVOS appstore. You're better off with an ipad for productivity in apple ecosystem.

This post has been edited by pokjak: Jul 10 2018, 04:12 PM

Hi pokjak, thanks for the feedback . Was thinking about this as my ipad was already aging but looks like no go.

Been using Apple TV 4K since Dec last year. So far loving every moment using it, streaming 4K content movies bought or rent on iTunes store, app that offers 4k stream (us account of course)

But Malaysia account movie much cheaper. RM12.90 for 4k movie.

yup, for renting and buying movies (those on promo) I will use my Malaysian ID, for app streaming using my US ID since there is more choices of apps for streaming.

I am sad there's no iFlix although I seldom watch.

better off with Netflix imho

else sent a request for them to develope the app for tvOS too. at times, I just try and see their content via the iFlix app on Samsung Smart tv but nothing that is interesting to be honest.

i have the appletv 4k but no 4k tv. just watch on normal tv.

Same here. Using normal LG fullhd 3d TV.

Besides Netflix and movies from iTunes, you can also stream 4K movies from your NAS. I use Infuse which supports 4K and HDR (no support for Dolby Vision yet).

Only "problem" with Apple TV 4K is the lack of support for Youtube 4K HDR. If I'm not mistaken, it plays Youtube in 1080p only which is a shame.

This post has been edited by welwitchia: Jul 16 2018, 02:30 PM

Because youtube use inferior decodings vp9 which is free.

I have using ATV 4k since March 18 and enjoy every second on it. Using smartdnsproxy to access Netflix, Hulu, HBO, STARZ etc using directv premier share account. However, anyone know how to access itunes store from other account without changing the account. I am sign in with my US itunes to enable siri and TV apps but cannot access the movie that i have purchased using Itunes Malaysia account. Tried Itunes family sharing but seems not accessible by US itunes account. So normally what i did is changing my account from US to Malaysia everytime I want to access the purchased content from Malaysia account. Not a major issue though but perhaps even better if I can use 1 account but can access purchased item from other account.

This post has been edited by RAFA15: Jul 23 2018, 03:21 PM

Same for me. I would definitely get one

Imo,i dont think so. Apple TV doesnt work like a tablet

ATV 4K should be at the top of the list with Nvidia Shield since the former could also side installed with Kodi.

Switching between your US and Malaysia accounts on the ATV 4K?

yup, for other country like UK also have nice apps. need to use smartdns or vpn of course

My plan is to buy a 4k TV first then get an Apple TV.

You can watch the latest movies & older movies from Astro on Demand at RM10 only. Got Malay, Chinese & English substitles also. Much cheaper compare from Apple TV at RM12.90. All latest Smart TV also got Netfllix, Amazon Prime & Youtube preinstall. So why bother buying Apple TV ?

Because Apple TV RM12.90 is owned by you and it is 4K with Dolby Vision.

Apple TV Netflix processing is very good.

This post has been edited by gogo2: Sep 27 2018, 12:24 PM

Apple TV dont have live channels from other countries? Like Taiwan etc

Live TV from US, that's what I have, There is DirectTV Now, Hulu + Live TV and other apps that have live streaming of local channel, FX, CBS, NBC to name a few.

apple tv 4k is worth it if you have a 4k TV, it's the most economical way to buy legal 4k content imo

some movies that is 4k i bought it for Rm12.90, old movie of course from iTunes

No cannot. Apple TV is different not like Mac mini. Its totally for entertainment.

For live tv you need to get/subscribe to an iptv m3u link and paste into apple TV app for example GSE app.

Planning to get Apple TV 4K due to Dolby Atmos support in Netflix. Before that, anybody know whether I can install Dimsum and ExpressVPN on it ?

Anywhere to get cheaper than RRP? Interested in 4K model

I think one thing bad about watching YouTube on Apple TV u will see advertisement and it is quite often. If you directly cast YouTube video to your smart tv using YouTube app or your tv app. Totally no advertisement at all. And Apple TV does not allow adding to queue for YouTube. Meaning one time can only cast one video. Also while you are casting YouTube to your Apple TV, if you are using your phone at the same time, the sound of your games, your apps etc. will be sent to your tv and mix with YouTube video playback for the sound.

It is good if you want to mirror your content to tv from your Apple devices. however, if you purely want to cast YouTube videos to your tv, just cast using the YouTube app ok your phone or your tv app will do.

the main thing i didn't buy AppleTV is because it dont have Kodi installed .

that's it

Advertisement good for content creator. Do not deprive them.

Nobody use Kodi now when Netflix is so cheap. You still live in cave?

i have no prob with advertisement. in fact, most youtubers care more about the likes, subscribers and notifications (bell icons).

prob is not about the advertisement, it is about the user experience. you can try it too.

1) cast video from youtube app on iphone to apple tv.
2) 2 to 3 mins later advertisement appear
3) after advertisement finished, home screen of apple tv show
4) that's it, never resume to the youtube where it stops, need to go to youtube app again, click play button.
5) after play button is clicked, it starts the video from begining.

constantly this happens regularly.

importantly, the ads are just too ridiculuously frequent that every 2-3 mins one advertisement. the user experience is totally bad.

using youtube app on iphone, cast videos to tv, can even queue them and remove them from youtube app playlist anytime.
in between zero app shown. and playback is mooth and hassle free.

this is the reason why i do not like to use apple tv to cast youtube video given the issues and limitation.

as a end-user, we care more about user experience than other things.

netflix has limited content, tried before and not using it anymore. it is not only about price but also content matters.

This post has been edited by westlife: Nov 4 2018, 11:21 AM

Still using kodi till now.. some contents which i could get better than Nextflix.

because here got a lot illegal TV box

I don't do casting.

Kodi is slow and lousy quality.

Lousy quality videos. Apple user only go for quality stuff.

Apple TV perfect for those who want Dolby Vision and Atmos at the same time, it’s the only tv box offer both feature.

Also for people who want to buy 4k movie at extremely cheap price.

32gb model less than 800 on shopee

Been using atv4k since feb 2018
4k stream using us content really superb

Which VPN?

how's the content in the MY store compared to the US store? im using US store and the lowest price is USD 9.99 for 4k movies

RM12.90 for weekly 4K movie
RM54.90 for highest price 4K movie
RM24.90/RM29.90 for special price 4K movie
Bundle movie range from RM15.00 for 4K movie

Malaysia is cheapest. US store too expensive and i will lol'ed if you bought movie in US store.

Not all is 4K

This post has been edited by gogo2: Nov 21 2018, 04:18 PM

Over 1500 channels available

Malaysia store can link with movies anywhere? I've bought stuff from google play/ ms store/ amazon, so movies anywhere is extremely important for me
edit* just to correct what i just said previously, the cheapest 4k movie is actually 4.99 usd

This post has been edited by ziniowong: Nov 21 2018, 04:52 PM

I don't understand.

Amazon movie work for me. Not sure about Google movie.

I got 4K Smart TV with Netflix and Youtube embedded in it. Do you think I should get Apple TV 4K?

If you want to collect cheap 4k movies. else, just enjoy Netflix 4k.

I want to screen mirror my Macbook Pro to TV to stream football matches as I have no Astro. Don't want to use HDMI cable. Not sure if it's worth it to buy Apple TV just for that.

For me it's worth because it's powerful iphone 7 processor and will last a long time because Apple seldom update Apple TV.

already put my order to buy Apple TV 4K

Anyone try to stream 4k movie on their server? I just got one and tried side by side comparison with oppo 203 and somehow ATV 4k only support multi channel PCM but on oppo it can play Dolby Atmos. I guess this is the only drawback for now.

Congrats

That's shame! But movie from own Apple Store can Dolby Atmos right?

I mainly use it via plex to stream my own server 4K movies. Not sure on Apple store contents. But apparently it’s a know issues for many home theater users and this is the only drawback.

Only movie from iTunes store support dolby atmos bitstream output, movie from hard disk/NAS will render to multi channel PCM.

So there is no way to force it to play Dolby Atmos for now?

Hi. Can you integrate astro live channels to the new apple tv?

Now got massive movie sale.

RM4.90 per movie

Just ordered Apple TV 4K waiting for delivery

Congrats....

Seems like Samsung TV support iTunes movie now. Effectively killed off Apple TV.

I seldom use iTunes movie..
Mostly use Netflix, YouTube, Bloomberg, some games and tv channel for my kids.
And Apple TV user interface is so smooth as compared to my android tv

Highly unlikely, iTunes movie is not the only feature in Apple TV and iTunes movies are not free.

Agree. My beelink Android box really cacat compare to my Apple TV 4. However, Nvidia Shield TV is as smooth as Apple TV if not better.

Latest AppleTV 4K update removed my AppleTV’s ability to turn off my TV. Was working fine previously.

It’s actually not. Apple TV have hardware bug that many people complain. You can google it. You can try reset Apple TV to see if that works.

has anyone experienced boot up being stuck on Apple Logo after updating software?
just updated to 12.3 on 4th gen Apple TV

I know this is half year ago question, I just notice this thread today, haha!

Movies Anywhere only can link account create in USA. In addition it is useless as it only playback as 1080p even your movies is 4K HDR.

Just switch your iTunes account if you have multiple country iTunes account, it is instant switch and only keying password once during setup.

So far no issue for me, I use Apple TV 4K remote one short turn off my Apple TV 4K, my Panasonic TV and also my LG SK9Y Soundbar.
Also work turning on all once.

So far until now, I never face any issue, touch wood. I am totally no regret buying Apple TV 4K.

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: May 22 2019, 01:39 AM

So this is What is New in Apple tvOS 12.3, any different?
A better looking Apple TV icon, that it, inside is very similar as previous design.
Another changes is this new Apple TV app is finally support Malaysia iTunes account.

By the mean time, I totally No Regret buying Apple TV 4K, it is the only TV Box can playback Dolby Atmos for Netflix.
Beside this it is the cheapest way to get legal streaming movies up to 4K HDR.

Also, the processor is freaking powerful and no issue playback own collection up to actual 4K UHD Blu-ray without compression quality film.
Infuse doing it freaking awesome here.

Apple TV 4K Main Interface


The New Apple TV app


Netflix


Infuse Main Interface


Infuse Movie Catalog


Infuse Movie Interface


This post has been edited by Andrewtst: May 22 2019, 02:02 AM

I don’t see why we need TV app when the iTunes movie app work just fine.

I agree on that, that TV app is very useless for us and I never use.

It may a little useful for US and UK people as they can subscribe others TV channel there and can watch nearly everything in one app place instead of go for separation apps. But still it is not useful for me, I rather go different apps to watch. Also due to limitation like Netflix won't fully support, third party not streaming service apps not support, this Apple TV app became unable cover everything in one app, it is very useless in my opinion.

This post has been edited by Andrewtst: May 22 2019, 08:07 AM

But it looks nice nevertheless...

Haha! It do look nice! Apple tvOS interface is well done and very friendly to use.

Yeah, it's weird, before it was OK. Now I find that if the TV is turned on by the AppleTV, the AppleTV will not be able to turn it off. If the TV is turned on by the TV's remote then the AppleTV will be able to turn it off.

Anyways, it's a really old Toshiba HD TV from 2009 which refuses to die. One white pixel is all it has to show for, for all those years in service. I guess I should be happy for that but that's why I have the ATV4K but no 4KTV.

This post has been edited by soonwai: May 22 2019, 10:34 PM

Where’s your plex icon... since tv is useless why is it on your first fav icon... hehe

plex 2.2 for tvOS is awesome

Plex is not that good compare with Infuse. Plex is still in my Apple TV 4K box just somewhere below as I not using it. I keep it for hope one day it can do same as Infuse, maybe needs sometimes, already a year, not much improvement on Plex when enabling subtitle. I hope Plex can solve this issue as Plex had easier to find movies as they is a listing on side follow a b c. This is something missing from Infuse.

Plex cannot playback smoothly once enable .SRT subtitle. Beside this it also cannot enable .PGS or .VOBSUB subtitle as it will transcode the movie. Once transcode it is not original quality, the worst not support HDR. I already subscribe to Plex for testing the new player, but result is same. It won't transcode as long you not using .PGS subtitle. This is still not solved in latest version 2.2

Infuse no such issue and freaking smooth, that the reason I only use Infuse but connect to Plex Media Server for easier organize my movies.
The problem of Infuse is they don't have media server, thus I need supplement of Plex Media Server.

As for TV icon, I just put there during screen capture, haha! Just for illustration purpose.

My Plex is still there but not using until they solved the subtitle issue.



This post has been edited by Andrewtst: May 23 2019, 02:19 AM

I guess we have different requirements... I am opposite of you infuse pro is just sitting there and not used. I don’t need subs as mostly watch English tv. For mobility especially catching up on series when travelling abroad plex is great. Sadly I don’t use infuse enough. As for srt subs. No complaints so far from users.