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 LYN PERODUA All-New MYVI Gen 3 - V2 [MG3], Passion Engineered - Dual VVT-i

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post Oct 30 2018, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(lyrilmaki @ Oct 30 2018, 10:36 AM)
I sit in my friend's Iriz once.. The rattles usually is around the dashboard area right?

That one is minor, try Myvi..  laugh.gif

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yeap you're right, the infamous dashboard rattling sounds.
and yes its minor, thats why i could live with my iriz rattlings.
it doesnt make me rage or anything, but its more like a reminder that its still proton. they can never have proper build quality.

so for me its a shame also that the new myvi suffers from the same problems. because i was really hoping to get out of this rattling loop that i've been in. lol
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QUOTE(adamdemz92 @ Oct 24 2018, 09:09 AM)
Hey there! Am having the same issue too whistling sound coming from driver-side side mirror when driving above 90-100km/h.

The rubber thingy surrounding the car door sides are pretty soft & weak tho. Needs to be upgraded anyways & it's not cheap,

Rm75/Door x 4 sides = Rm300  sad.gif
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I had the same problem whistling sound on the co-driver side. Went to SC and explain and even test drive to proof it. They did something on the window side and problem SOLVED.
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post Oct 30 2018, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(LordDenning @ Oct 30 2018, 12:25 PM)
im just using official service items and schedule.
myvi can only use that type of EO right if im not mistaken. ( feel free to correct me on this)
as for the iriz, can use mineral, semi and fully syn. SC and officially as per user manual, it recommends that semi-syn is more than enough for Iriz. and if you send for service they will default auto use semi-syn oil. If you want fully syn you have to request for it.

So dont need to go into the fully syn vs semi-syn debate. I just follow what the car makers think is best or adequate enough for the cars that they produced. They know better than us.

And besides its a freaking campro engine, its a robust tank. Proton knows it. Not like use fully syn on that campro will suddenly make the campro become a better engine lol.

So yeah, as per official servicing items, the cost is what it is as i have calculated above.

anyway yeah i get your point on the bolded item as well. A lot of people have difficulties or just hate the cvt on the iriz.
As for me, well I could adapt it since day one. So i dont find it a problem. Just need to learn that CVT especially Punch CVT, works differently than a 4AT.
Hence the transmission on Myvi or Iriz is not a deal breaker for me. Both are fine for me, working as intended.

But my gripe with this 4AT though, its reluctant to downshift when you tekan minyak. Thats what i felt when i went test drive yesterday. Making overtaking acceleration seem slower.. At least i feel its slower and more laggy than my 1.3 iriz, yes even with CVT, and also my old myvi 1.5 lagi best..

I suspect its due to the way they tune it to make it more fuel saving and for the EEV status of the car, etc..  Which is quite a shame, because i like the 1.5l dual vvti engine a lot more.

Oh and one more thing, for all the complaints the Iriz had for the engine + cvt transmission noises, the new Myvi's engine + transmission is even louder. I cant be the only one who thinks its loud right? Even every review video i checked out on youtube, when you pedal its seriously loud the engine sound. Overall NVH the Iriz still performs better than the new Myvi.
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I used Saga FLX before, so believe me I have no problem driving with the CVT. But it doesn't change the fact that I hate the way Punch CVT behave. If they can make the CVT how Toyota & Honda did, then I would not hate it as much I think.

I believe you are right about Myvi gearbox tuning. But believe me, I have no issue overtaking now. Just like you said, you need to learn the gearbox behavior then you won't have any problem at all.

From your response you do seem to be more inclined to buy another Iriz. Maybe wait for the facelift version? icon_idea.gif
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post Oct 30 2018, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(dino_rongak @ Oct 30 2018, 02:34 PM)
I used Saga FLX before, so believe me I have no problem driving with the CVT. But it doesn't change the fact that I hate the way Punch CVT behave. If they can make the CVT how Toyota & Honda did, then I would not hate it as much I think.

I believe you are right about Myvi gearbox tuning. But believe me, I have no issue overtaking now. Just like you said, you need to learn the gearbox behavior then you won't have any problem at all.

From your response you do seem to be more inclined to buy another Iriz. Maybe wait for the facelift version?  icon_idea.gif
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ahh well cant compare saga flx ones. even old iriz before updated ecu and tcu is bad.
mine after updated ecu and tcu, eliminated the "lag" already. as for the jerk i experience it once in a blue moon only when in traffic jam. its more like manual jerk. well its clutch based CVT so yeah same behaviour.

yeap you are right, i have no problems adapting to either one. its just a matter of getting used to it. so i believe once i get used to the car, i will know how to accelerate it.
but one thing that is not about adapting is, the engine + transmission noise in this new myvi. its loud, the engine roars when u tekan minyak.

actually no, im more inclined to get the Myvi atm.

just not fully convinced. because i value driving experience a lot as well. lets just put it this way, myvi is a reliable car that gets you from point A to B to C all the way to Z with no fuss and gives you some nice bells and whistles to play with along the way. but its exactly just that, the car has no character whatsoever. the iriz on the other hand, to put it in simple terms, fun despite some of its flaws. its the kind car that would give you satisfaction driving it.

well not many people are concerned about it, the majority just needs a reliable car to get from point a to b so its not hard to see why people would pick myvi readily.

This post has been edited by LordDenning: Oct 30 2018, 02:50 PM
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post Oct 30 2018, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(LordDenning @ Oct 30 2018, 12:32 AM)
nah no worries. its better to do your own research and test drive all your options and decide for yourself.

do your due diligence and ask the questions you want to ask now to avoid headaches in the future.

just ignore the repulsive fanboys or naysayers that go "go get a golf gti instead" kind of replies.

because at the end of the day, after doing your own research and going with what you want, you can set reasonable expectations of what you can expect from the car.

and once you have set the reasonable expectations for the car, you wont get the regret or disappointed feeling. you get what you paid for.
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Came into Myvi MG3 forum and telling the members 'fanboys'? Of course la

U think what? Got few people like u also here talking nonsense for few days?

Why u cant talk about this in the Iriz forum instead? U will get the answers that u would like to see..





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post Oct 30 2018, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(STEALYOURGLORY @ Oct 30 2018, 04:13 PM)
Came into Myvi MG3 forum and telling the members 'fanboys'? Of course la

U think what? Got few people like u also here talking nonsense for few days?

Why u cant talk about this in the Iriz forum instead? U will get the answers that u would like to see..
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Sir, no point of wasting our breath in responding to such defensive paranoid intrusion present. Such irrelevant generic comparisons topic should just be posted in the main Fast&Furious page for constructive feedbacks if forumer dare to do it in the 1st place afterall!
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post Oct 30 2018, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(LordDenning @ Oct 29 2018, 02:23 PM)
So i just got back from test driving the 1.5 Advance model

First let me talk about the things I liked:
1) the 1.5 engine is good. its plenty powerful. BUT the acceleration is NOT good.
2) the aircond control looks and the way it work - BUT its annoying because there's not a 1 button to turn off AC, you must manually press the lower temperature button till it reaches Off. so if you go up till 5 and above, then you have to click click click click click then only AC is off. can foresee it will be mighty annoying having to do that everytime you get out of the car.
3) built in smart tag.
4) the looks really is nice. i saw white and silver and black. if i were to get one, i cant even decide. I like the black one a lot, but sometimes see white looks nice pulak, then see silver also looks nice.  tongue.gif
5) spare tyre is a full alloy rim, and with that in mind, the rear is still really spacious lol. the legroom is big.
6) the back seat you can recline.

ok now to the part where i absolutely did not like, some are borderline hate:
1) the build quality. like seriously.

-the handbrake lever is so fricking short? and also so plasticky and hollow feeling, like a toy. holding it with grip could give you the impression if you were to grip any tighter you would break it.

-same goes to the transmission stick. its so hard to see whether you shifted to N or D, no way to tell so must look from the info cluster panel in front to be sure.. why the hell they decided to cover the stick up with some saggy leather looking thing.  doh.gif

-wiper and signal stalks. enough said. its straight trash. looks cheap while the dashboard and steering looks decently good already. makes it really stand out and look so out of place. it is cheap looking and cheap feeling when you hold it. and on that note, they still use that black stick on the speedometer to reset trips and stuff. that is so 1980. you cant reset it from your signal stalks unlike the iriz or many other cars?

2) the chair is not nice. compared to my Iriz at least. < my biggest gripe.
yes its semi bucket seat, but it doesn't have enough cushion for side and thigh supports. not only that, the seats are rather "flat", its not designed to follow our body texture and position when sitting, unlike the one in iriz where it follows our body contour nicely.
just to tell you why i feel this one the most, i give u a non exaggerating comparison, when im stuck in a jam in the Iriz, i wont rage. cause at least the seat is comfortable to sit on. I can play phone and listen to songs peacefully still.
this one if i stuck in jam i conlanfirm will rage, cause i will rather get out of the car ASAP than continue stuck sitting in that sit for long periods. same goes to long distance travelling..

and then right, the seats are rather thin? or hollow? not sure how to describe it accurately, but i could feel like the frame of the chairs already.
no seriously. iriz seats are something i take for granted every day.

3) the acceleration. it has a good 1.5 engine. but the 4AT doesnt do it justice. idk why the acceleration feels very reluctant or slow? i tried to overtake cars just now, and its just... well quite disappointing.
but once the acceleration part is over, then suddenly you get a surge of power coming to you. but you no longer need it. so you have to brake instead. < if in highway sure not a problem, but in city driving acceleration is rather slow or bad then suddenly so much power from the 1.5 engine comes in later.

4) the central locking. my fucking god. when i press the internal lock button for the first time i thought someone threw stones at the car. what in the actual fuck was that? why is it so loud? and its the SNAPPY SNAP kind of loud.. like someone braking your bones kind of snap sound it makes.. just WHY???

anyway, if i go myvi i will thoroughly miss my iriz auto lock and unlock as well. auto lock when the car goes above 30km/h. auto unlock when you pull the door lever just like continentals.
and i found out you cant lock/unlock the doors from the door lever side as well. have to use the friggin button all the time at the center.

this along with all the other buttons you have the press in the car.. lets play a game of how many times you have to press buttons before you can drive..
1) engine start stop (okay this one is unfair but lets just put in for the LOL)
2) eco idle off
3) side mirrors unfold
4) air cond. what fan speed you like? 4 or 5? so click click click click.
5) lock the car.

oh wait, you forgot to take something, so unlock the car with a bone snapping sound. oh wait your gf complain radio too loud, so press some more buttons. <okay thats a joke but you get my point. seriously a lot of buttons to press lor.

anyway, thats what i feel at least..
so those are my main impressions after driving it. took it for a real test drive, was like an hour long with the SA. i went to city roads with potholes, i went highway did 4~5k rpm. i did everything la basically, even tried the eco idle and ASA. i also did door testing many times. the stuff i didnt comment on i guess its comparably as good as the Iriz like door closing "thunk" sound, etc.
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- The gear shift logic in D is tuned for efficiency, and has more delay than the previous model (drove both models so I can tell). If you're not stepping on the gas it will always default to the highest gear starting from around 40kph, thus it always need to shift twice when you want to accelerate (that's where you get the surge of power, cause its in 2nd gear). If you want low speed response (for example going through speedbumps), I recommend changing to 3 for that. In fact I tend to shift between D and 3 on varied speed city driving when I'm not focused on eco driving (3 also disables eco idle so its useful in car park, as I don't bother to turn it off). Used to drive a manual so I have no problem working the shifter.

- Myvi never had aircond on/off button. It's always a dial until this latest model where it changed to up down buttons. So for convenience I use Memory 1 to set aircond to lowest speed and cooling (and just pretend it's off), and Memory 2 for my usual setting. If I want other settings I can work from Memory 2 which is in the middle setting. Anyway, in this model the car will throttle the aircond to lowest speed for 0.5 second after start up, so even if you keep it on it won't negatively affect the engine. (Definitely off the aircond first if you're driving the older models)

- Built in Smart Tag is mighty convenient. The RFID won't be mainstream anytime soon, so its not a waste.

- No comment on the handbrake and stalk. Perhaps those on the Iriz is better, but I don't feel that they're inadequate or anything. Basically they're a non-factor in my purchasing decision. Same goes for the trip button, its less convenient than previous model because that one had two buttons for reset average and mileage while now more clicking is needed to reset both, but these are very minor stuffs.

- I mostly drive a manual before this car, so I only have limited experience in terms of auto transmission shifting. I did have slight trouble for the first few days, and had to look at the dashboard to know which setting its on, and had no idea when the button needs to be pushed during shift and when its not needed. Now I'm used to it and can tell based on my hand position relative to my body.

- The chair is better than the previous model, I have no issue sitting in it for 4 hours, though I don't know how the chair in Iriz feels. Myvi always had flat seat bases, to cater for those with more.... generous sizes. Those same people will definitely feel constrained in the Iriz.

- The central lock is the one thing I feel is inferior to the previous model. My dad's 10 year old Kia had the same type of lock but at least its located on the driver door. Although again, it isn't enough of a factor to say "Yeah I won't buy the new Myvi 2018 because the central locking sucks".

- Finally for the game of "how many times you have to press buttons before you can drive", mine is:
1. Engine start
2. Aircond Memory 2 (you can skip this if you didn't off aircond beforehand)
3. Lock car

I then just shift to 3 and drive. I don't have the habit of folding side mirror, but if you have, I don't think its troublesome to use two fingers to press both unfold and eco idle off together. I always start driving in 3 and only shift to D upon main road.
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Finally getting the MG3 after waiting since 16th june, but didnt get the full rebate cause loan approved only in july.
Coming from a 24y.o wira. Was contemplating getting the x70 though lol

Wanted to ask you guys, is the sports gearup package any good ( visor+boot plastic+coil mats), wanted to get that with the hood insulator. Or im better off buying third party only?
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post Oct 30 2018, 09:21 PM

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hello all,

lately is been raining almost daily rite?

i notice my front windscreen, rear windscreen, and driver side window tends to get foggy/misty hmm.gif
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post Oct 31 2018, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(blackxwhite @ Oct 30 2018, 06:57 PM)
Finally getting the MG3 after waiting since 16th june, but didnt get the full rebate cause loan approved only in july.
Coming from a 24y.o wira. Was contemplating getting the x70 though lol

Wanted to ask you guys, is the sports gearup package any good ( visor+boot plastic+coil mats), wanted to get that with the hood insulator. Or im better off buying third party only?
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Boot plastic & coil mats are good, but not visor, you could get better quality in any other accessories shop. (P.S: i'm using visor from perodua as well).

For car sound/heat insulation, it's better to buy and install from third party. Get a sound proofing/insulator specialist to get it done for you as their workmanship

is much much better than P2.
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QUOTE(blackxwhite @ Oct 30 2018, 06:57 PM)
Finally getting the MG3 after waiting since 16th june, but didnt get the full rebate cause loan approved only in july.
Coming from a 24y.o wira. Was contemplating getting the x70 though lol

Wanted to ask you guys, is the sports gearup package any good ( visor+boot plastic+coil mats), wanted to get that with the hood insulator. Or im better off buying third party only?
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Welcome rclxms.gif , I'm also coming from 20yrs old wira too. Got my MG3 on July
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post Oct 31 2018, 11:50 AM

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Thanks for the heads up!
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post Oct 31 2018, 03:08 PM

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hi all, My SA today asked me to pay down payment and register my car at JPJ but he say car is on the way, usually take how long to wait for car arrive ? (Car Chassis number also got)
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post Oct 31 2018, 06:06 PM

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You guys must also understand, it not poor quality, is over demand of myvi. How can you expect a over demand car to fit nicely without problem like warehouse store car like IRIZ which no GST and SST + give discount kaw kaw also less ppl want to buy.

If you think Myvi give so much problem, you should wait till the order cool down then buy, that time sure less problem.
if cant wait and want something in between like myvi but and iriz... then go for Picanto 2018 lor...
great car. good handling. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Timothy.kueck @ Oct 31 2018, 03:08 PM)
hi all, My SA today asked me to pay down payment and register my car at JPJ but he say car is on the way, usually take how long to wait for car arrive ? (Car Chassis number also got)
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after 3 4 days maybe, mine is 1 week
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post Nov 1 2018, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(bonez_xy @ Oct 31 2018, 11:00 PM)
after 3 4 days maybe, mine is  1 week
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Thanks for the info smile.gif
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post Nov 1 2018, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(lyrilmaki @ Oct 30 2018, 10:36 AM)
I sit in my friend's Iriz once.. The rattles usually is around the dashboard area right?

That one is minor, try Myvi..  laugh.gif

360 rattling one
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And Perodua SC said: memang like that, nothing can be done. Mine rattles since new shakehead.gif shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(firefly3x @ Nov 1 2018, 10:47 AM)
And Perodua SC said: memang like that, nothing can be done. Mine rattles since new  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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I thought only my 1st batch car will face this issue..

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QUOTE(blackxwhite @ Oct 31 2018, 11:50 AM)
Thanks for the heads up!
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blush.gif did someone mention soundproofing ?

hehe

anyway thank u to another member who drop by yesterday to get the 2 in 1 brake autolock & side mirror autofolding module installed

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