Would like to ask are there anyone who has experience buying lelong property before?
Any pros and cons?
Please share
Buying LELONG property, Advice needed
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Jun 4 2018, 10:54 AM, updated 8y ago
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Hi all sifus,
Would like to ask are there anyone who has experience buying lelong property before? Any pros and cons? Please share |
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Jun 4 2018, 11:17 AM
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need to learn too, parking here *
but what i heard from others is we cannot visit the property before fully owned it, any research need to be done outside the house. |
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Jun 4 2018, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(kamisama @ Jun 4 2018, 11:17 AM) need to learn too, parking here * yes, that is very general one.but what i heard from others is we cannot visit the property before fully owned it, any research need to be done outside the house. so from my common understanding is, better if we purchase those NEW development's lelongs rather than OLD ones, cause at least we know their condition is better than older ones. my sis's current place is from lelong, but from what I know is last time, the procedure is very tedious and troublesome, not sure is it her LUCK or it applies to every lelong properties where it took her almost 2 years to get the house key. This post has been edited by littlealan00: Jun 4 2018, 11:29 AM |
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Jun 4 2018, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(littlealan00 @ Jun 4 2018, 11:28 AM) yes, that is very general one. purchasing new development is good but ofcourse the price is same as during selling price.. if he loan for 600k.. then mean now selling price is 600k.. you need to dp 60k+stamp+lawyer = 100k..so from my common understanding is, better if we purchase those NEW development's lelongs rather than OLD ones, cause at least we know their condition is better than older ones. my sis's current place is from lelong, but from what I know is last time, the procedure is very tedious and troublesome, not sure is it her LUCK or it applies to every lelong properties where it took her almost 2 years to get the house key. got that much money? if you got 100k.. you can easily just buy a unit.. instead go to lelong to have all this hassle.. |
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Jun 4 2018, 02:44 PM
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Pros
- you buy at below market price, that's all Cons - you don't know the house condition, damages - owner might won't move out - owner might holding a grudge against you (happened to me) |
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QUOTE(littlealan00 @ Jun 4 2018, 10:54 AM) Hi all sifus, 1. Make sure your loan eligibility has been checkedWould like to ask are there anyone who has experience buying lelong property before? Any pros and cons? Please share 2. 90 days to pay the balance 90% (or more) beyond that you can be penalized or the sales and your deposit forfeited 3. You can expect the property to be under-maintained, or if strata title, years of unpaid fees 4. In some cases, buyers even found dead bodies in the fridge. Good luck |
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Jun 4 2018, 06:12 PM
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Pros - Cheap
Cons - More hassle. Short turn around time. A bit of a gamble in terms of condition. Always plan for the worse. |
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Jun 4 2018, 09:11 PM
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-most probably you cannot settle the loan disbursement in time. lose deposit. you'll be anxious all the time. - donno the condition inside - occupants refuse to vacate the prop pro: -cheaper than market price |
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Just got my 3rd auction prop recently so here’s the list of pros and cons I’ve experienced so far: Pros: Can get way way below market price Cons: 1. Everything need to rush, after auction done need to straight (same day or next working day) go arrange loan and get your lawyer on standby to arrange the legal stuff like mot, consent etc 2. Need a lot of research and stalking.You need to find out exactly the title status and also condition of the house dun go for auction blindly, if title got issue then you gonna burn your deposit confirmed. 3. Need a lot of hard work, cannot fully depend on lawyer. I had to go here and there, everywhere to get the strata title for my recent purchase. If wait lawyer push paper to get till now my loan won’t get approved yet. 4. Need to spend a lot of time as a lot of stuff to do as above. 5. Need cash for DP legal fees etc not like new development a lot can 0% dp Is it worth it? I just got a prop around 150k below market. So for me, yes it’s worth the hassle. QUOTE(kamisama @ Jun 4 2018, 11:17 AM) need to learn too, parking here * Well, that’s the general rule but personally I try to find units occupied by tenants then pandai2 nego with the tenant to let me see inside 😜but what i heard from others is we cannot visit the property before fully owned it, any research need to be done outside the house. Irresistible and LOvebugs liked this post
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QUOTE(littlealan00 @ Jun 4 2018, 11:28 AM) yes, that is very general one. NEW can be 1 or 2 years from completion date. so from my common understanding is, better if we purchase those NEW development's lelongs rather than OLD ones, cause at least we know their condition is better than older ones. my sis's current place is from lelong, but from what I know is last time, the procedure is very tedious and troublesome, not sure is it her LUCK or it applies to every lelong properties where it took her almost 2 years to get the house key. but now the current trend is getting totally BRAND NEW as per developer condition unit. owner did nothing at all yet to the unit. and the best thing is price fall below 3-4 years ago launching price. |
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Jun 19 2018, 10:57 AM
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can do site visit. who say cannot?
just bring an article or any letter that says the property is under lelong or going to lelong. photocopy also can no need official chop or anything. this is what I usually do. also if it is guarded or gated like condo, I will say want to go to management office. I tell management office I want to do a visit to the unit. all ok so far. |
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QUOTE(faizalfaizal @ Jun 19 2018, 10:57 AM) can do site visit. who say cannot? meaning u can view the interior too?just bring an article or any letter that says the property is under lelong or going to lelong. photocopy also can no need official chop or anything. this is what I usually do. also if it is guarded or gated like condo, I will say want to go to management office. I tell management office I want to do a visit to the unit. all ok so far. |
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QUOTE(faizalfaizal @ Jun 19 2018, 10:57 AM) can do site visit. who say cannot? Can view from outside only unless you got permission from occupant or owner.just bring an article or any letter that says the property is under lelong or going to lelong. photocopy also can no need official chop or anything. this is what I usually do. also if it is guarded or gated like condo, I will say want to go to management office. I tell management office I want to do a visit to the unit. all ok so far. Most units I have bought are empty though. Not recommended to break in by force. |
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Jun 19 2018, 01:54 PM
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Beware.. in lelong banyak hantu.. sengaja raise the price by internal lelong-er.. Tried once.. i bid for the property and one cibai uncle raise 10k.. then i no continue.. but after the lelong.. the unit is still available for next lelong event.. (few unit i saw also same from the day i attend lelong).. just dont understand those lelong-errr.. want to fast fast sell but want to play this kind of game for higher price.. why not just put the price in first place.. there is willing buyer.. sure will buy if price match.. instead of play highball bidding with those ghost.. LOvebugs liked this post
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QUOTE(littlealan00 @ Jun 4 2018, 11:28 AM) yes, that is very general one. Lelong house usually no key, so why need to wait for key? Just break the locks and change it. That's what I did.so from my common understanding is, better if we purchase those NEW development's lelongs rather than OLD ones, cause at least we know their condition is better than older ones. my sis's current place is from lelong, but from what I know is last time, the procedure is very tedious and troublesome, not sure is it her LUCK or it applies to every lelong properties where it took her almost 2 years to get the house key. |
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QUOTE(gugukrez @ Jun 19 2018, 01:54 PM) Beware.. in lelong banyak hantu.. sengaja raise the price by internal lelong-er.. Those asshole uncles are in cohort with the auctioneer. They will ask you to pay them a certain sum, if you don't they will bid up the price double the amount they asked you. But even if they win their bid, they can get back their deposits (thanks to the auctioneer). Nowadays too many people bidding for auction houses, no point paying those assholes off coz there are many real bidders competing with you.Tried once.. i bid for the property and one cibai uncle raise 10k.. then i no continue.. but after the lelong.. the unit is still available for next lelong event.. (few unit i saw also same from the day i attend lelong).. just dont understand those lelong-errr.. want to fast fast sell but want to play this kind of game for higher price.. why not just put the price in first place.. there is willing buyer.. sure will buy if price match.. instead of play highball bidding with those ghost.. |
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QUOTE(gugukrez @ Jun 19 2018, 01:54 PM) Beware.. in lelong banyak hantu.. sengaja raise the price by internal lelong-er.. Only applicable for private auctions. Reputable auction houses would not do such a thing. Tried once.. i bid for the property and one cibai uncle raise 10k.. then i no continue.. but after the lelong.. the unit is still available for next lelong event.. (few unit i saw also same from the day i attend lelong).. just dont understand those lelong-errr.. want to fast fast sell but want to play this kind of game for higher price.. why not just put the price in first place.. there is willing buyer.. sure will buy if price match.. instead of play highball bidding with those ghost.. QUOTE(jdgobio @ Jun 19 2018, 02:28 PM) Those asshole uncles are in cohort with the auctioneer. They will ask you to pay them a certain sum, if you don't they will bid up the price double the amount they asked you. But even if they win their bid, they can get back their deposits (thanks to the auctioneer). Nowadays too many people bidding for auction houses, no point paying those assholes off coz there are many real bidders competing with you. You can't get your deposit back if you win. Unless is a private auction. |
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QUOTE(Count Auction @ Jun 19 2018, 05:44 PM) Only applicable for private auctions. Reputable auction houses would not do such a thing. I beg to differ. Reputable auction houses do it as well. And the auctioneers act all prim and proper and seem to loathe the ghosts when you ask them about it, but the ghosts still get their deposits back. How do you reckon that happens without the auction house colluding with them?You can't get your deposit back if you win. Unless is a private auction. |
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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Jun 19 2018, 06:01 PM) I beg to differ. Reputable auction houses do it as well. And the auctioneers act all prim and proper and seem to loathe the ghosts when you ask them about it, but the ghosts still get their deposits back. How do you reckon that happens without the auction house colluding with them? worst is those premium property always call of in last minute ..... wondering who is that hantu |
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Jun 19 2018, 08:02 PM
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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Jun 19 2018, 06:01 PM) I beg to differ. Reputable auction houses do it as well. And the auctioneers act all prim and proper and seem to loathe the ghosts when you ask them about it, but the ghosts still get their deposits back. How do you reckon that happens without the auction house colluding with them? Bank lelong or private auction? Bank lelong is impossible. Unless the bankers, lawyers, auctioneers and judge all involved. I almost never seen it before. Only time it happens is if there is a legitimate reason like owner dispute. QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jun 19 2018, 07:23 PM) If is bank lelong most likely borrower settle lor. Bank call off cost them money. Won't simply call off. |
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QUOTE(Count Auction @ Jun 19 2018, 08:02 PM) Bank lelong or private auction? Bank lelong is impossible. Unless the bankers, lawyers, auctioneers and judge all involved. I almost never seen it before. Only time it happens is if there is a legitimate reason like owner dispute. Bank lelong. I have explained the scenario, tell me how it happened if there is no collusion? And I have seen this happen more than once.If is bank lelong most likely borrower settle lor. Bank call off cost them money. Won't simply call off. |
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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Jun 19 2018, 11:01 PM) Bank lelong. I have explained the scenario, tell me how it happened if there is no collusion? And I have seen this happen more than once. There are syndicates that tried to bid rig. That is rampant. But getting back the deposit is simply not possible. If that happens the bank can get sued in court. Next time if you see that happen, complain to the lawyer, banker or the judge. At least two of them have to be on site during the auction.PM me which auctioneer that does it. I am in the industry. QUOTE(jdgobio @ Jun 19 2018, 11:02 PM) This one is another jalan. They will say its withdrawn but then when you check the property someone else have bought it. Again, very hard to happen. I am not saying 100% it is not going to happen but I have been to more than 100 auctions and have never seen it happen. The whole lelong industry is shrouded with misconceptions and mystic. The only thing that is true is bid rigging. Even so, that is being stamped out with e lelong. |
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QUOTE(Count Auction @ Jun 19 2018, 08:02 PM) Bank lelong or private auction? Bank lelong is impossible. Unless the bankers, lawyers, auctioneers and judge all involved. I almost never seen it before. Only time it happens is if there is a legitimate reason like owner dispute. If is bank lelong most likely borrower settle lor. Bank call off cost them money. Won't simply call off. QUOTE(Count Auction @ Jun 19 2018, 11:32 PM) There are syndicates that tried to bid rig. That is rampant. But getting back the deposit is simply not possible. If that happens the bank can get sued in court. Next time if you see that happen, complain to the lawyer, banker or the judge. At least two of them have to be on site during the auction. Hhahahhahahaha ......PM me which auctioneer that does it. I am in the industry. Again, very hard to happen. I am not saying 100% it is not going to happen but I have been to more than 100 auctions and have never seen it happen. The whole lelong industry is shrouded with misconceptions and mystic. The only thing that is true is bid rigging. Even so, that is being stamped out with e lelong. woo more than 100 times, i been making profit since 1998 with bank auction, even i don't bid for any unit, i still can walk out with smile 1-2k in my pocket. |
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QUOTE(Count Auction @ Jun 19 2018, 11:32 PM) There are syndicates that tried to bid rig. That is rampant. But getting back the deposit is simply not possible. If that happens the bank can get sued in court. Next time if you see that happen, complain to the lawyer, banker or the judge. At least two of them have to be on site during the auction. You are trying very hard to defend something that is tainted. I attended my first auction in 1998 and have been to more than 50 auctions in the past 20 years. While the scamming is now much reduced compared to the early 2000s, I find your claim of never seeing it happen after attending more than 100 auctions extremely dubious. Either you don't see it or you don't know what you're seeing. PM me which auctioneer that does it. I am in the industry. Again, very hard to happen. I am not saying 100% it is not going to happen but I have been to more than 100 auctions and have never seen it happen. The whole lelong industry is shrouded with misconceptions and mystic. The only thing that is true is bid rigging. Even so, that is being stamped out with e lelong. |
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QUOTE(SonnyCooL @ Jun 20 2018, 04:37 AM) Hhahahhahahaha ...... Yeah that's not hard if you want to go down the illegal route. woo more than 100 times, i been making profit since 1998 with bank auction, even i don't bid for any unit, i still can walk out with smile 1-2k in my pocket. QUOTE(jdgobio @ Jun 20 2018, 10:30 AM) You are trying very hard to defend something that is tainted. I attended my first auction in 1998 and have been to more than 50 auctions in the past 20 years. While the scamming is now much reduced compared to the early 2000s, I find your claim of never seeing it happen after attending more than 100 auctions extremely dubious. Either you don't see it or you don't know what you're seeing. I have of course seen the syndicates work. But I have never seen deposit refunded due to uncle tak syok you and bid double then get deposit back.I am not defending something that is tainted. However I disagree with the way it is tainted. It is much more sophisticated than outbid you because you don't want to pay and get deposit back. |
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QUOTE(jdgobio @ Jun 19 2018, 02:28 PM) Those asshole uncles are in cohort with the auctioneer. They will ask you to pay them a certain sum, if you don't they will bid up the price double the amount they asked you. But even if they win their bid, they can get back their deposits (thanks to the auctioneer). Nowadays too many people bidding for auction houses, no point paying those assholes off coz there are many real bidders competing with you. These uncles usually will approach you at lelong and will ask you to pay them around rm5-50k depending on your land value. Have a look at their bank drafts and POS on hand to be certain. Then just give it to them. |
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Does buying an auction apartment have higher risk?
The unit I'm looking at, has digital lock. So, if I were to buy this. Wouldn't I need to change the digital lock, and request new access card from management? This add on to the uncertainty of the unit internal condition right? Lets say the market price now rm450k. The reserved price for this unit is rm370k (2nd auction). Is it worth the hassle actually? It's a new project under 3 years. How long the overall procedure will take until I move in? |
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Feb 28 2019, 12:58 PM
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Bought my property via lelong 1year+ back. It was new property.
Cons - - The rush to get the loan done. Also, a lot of banks don't do auction loans. - No keys. Once confirmed by lawyer, have to break into the house with locksmith and police. Pros - 15% below market price Would I do it again? Yes, I would. It was not easy and quite a rush, but I do think it's worth it. |
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QUOTE(55665566 @ Feb 27 2019, 08:07 AM) Does buying an auction apartment have higher risk? This statement applicable to all lelong units. Yes, need to change the locks and do new access card. The unit I'm looking at, has digital lock. So, if I were to buy this. Wouldn't I need to change the digital lock, and request new access card from management? This add on to the uncertainty of the unit internal condition right? Lets say the market price now rm450k. The reserved price for this unit is rm370k (2nd auction). Is it worth the hassle actually? It's a new project under 3 years. How long the overall procedure will take until I move in? Even if you buy via subsale, to be safe also people will change the door and grill lock as well. If already got a digital lock install at the door, the unit is most likely doing airbnb/homestay kinda stuff. But dont put high hope on this. The possibility is there. QUOTE(lilac @ Feb 28 2019, 02:20 PM) Bought my property via lelong 1year+ back. It was new property. Nope. No such thing. All banks take in auction cases. Is just the same like buying subsale property. Cons - - The rush to get the loan done. Also, a lot of banks don't do auction loans. - No keys. Once confirmed by lawyer, have to break into the house with locksmith and police. Pros - 15% below market price Would I do it again? Yes, I would. It was not easy and quite a rush, but I do think it's worth it. You must have dealt with unreliable/lazy bankers who provide wrong info. |
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my friend bought one last time, before buy cannot go in and see. after get the key, open main door smells something funny. then realize the previous owner's dead body is in the fridge. it is a police case where the previous owner was murdered and hidden inside the fridge. you dare to live or not.
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If condo, make sure no outstanding management fees if not u have to bear it
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QUOTE(Nama saya Amad @ Mar 3 2019, 05:49 AM) So far Citibank the only bank will give cheque straight to successful winner to pay off those outstanding fees to management office and local authority. All other banks practice winner need to pay first then only claim back from the auction bank. Lawyer will do it for you as long as you keep all the payment receipt. |
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Fengshui no good wor. Previous owner live till need to lelong house you still dare to buy
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Hi, new here, how do i know the date the property start become individual title or first VP, for example at Saujana Damsansara property developed by Maxisegar Sdn Bhd, auctioned month ago, it is leasehold 99 years, so how do i know what remaining years left since it havehave been individual titled,
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QUOTE(farhanz95play @ Apr 21 2019, 06:31 PM) Hi, new here, how do i know the date the property start become individual title or first VP, for example at Saujana Damsansara property developed by Maxisegar Sdn Bhd, auctioned month ago, it is leasehold 99 years, so how do i know what remaining years left since it havehave been individual titled, Info can be found inside the POS. Whether is still master title or strata / individual title already issued. Remaining years of the leasehold also will be stated inside the POS. just want to ready information about this property, thank you. Can do a title search at the land office to be more confirm. Suajana Damansara apartment? At Damansara Damai? I think this is by MK Land. A google search on "Maxisegar" show up link with the famous Talam developer. |
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Apr 22 2019, 03:23 PM
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better think x10 times and make sure u know your shit before enter into auction or else better stick to freehold + with title property.
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I remember last time before auction, auctioneer must publish POS in newspapers and distribute copies to neighborhood.
10+ years ago they begin published in their official websites, post up complete POS. Slowly website info became formal and legit, no more advertise in newspapers. Nowadays very hard to see legit POS in newspapers and websites. For website they put half details, you need to request and give them your particulars like name, ic, phone, email etc still can't get full details ( usually the house number) then they will ask you sign up premium membership only can see real POS. Banks do the same. Sometimes need to deal with third party like agent for POS. Is it legal by law for auctioneer not to publish full POS openly? |
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Eh if lets say i found house with "bank lelong" at the front gate .. how do we know which bank is doing the lelong and whether its still available?
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Apr 22 2019, 02:27 AM) Info can be found inside the POS. Whether is still master title or strata / individual title already issued. Remaining years of the leasehold also will be stated inside the POS. What is POS ya? sorry newbie here Can do a title search at the land office to be more confirm. Suajana Damansara apartment? At Damansara Damai? I think this is by MK Land. A google search on "Maxisegar" show up link with the famous Talam developer. QUOTE(Shopper's @ Apr 22 2019, 04:36 PM) I remember last time before auction, auctioneer must publish POS in newspapers and distribute copies to neighborhood. website for lelong unit? any website recommend? I do see a few lelong unit on chinese newspaper 10+ years ago they begin published in their official websites, post up complete POS. Slowly website info became formal and legit, no more advertise in newspapers. Nowadays very hard to see legit POS in newspapers and websites. For website they put half details, you need to request and give them your particulars like name, ic, phone, email etc still can't get full details ( usually the house number) then they will ask you sign up premium membership only can see real POS. Banks do the same. Sometimes need to deal with third party like agent for POS. Is it legal by law for auctioneer not to publish full POS openly? |
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QUOTE(LimauKering @ Mar 1 2019, 11:09 AM) my friend bought one last time, before buy cannot go in and see. after get the key, open main door smells something funny. then realize the previous owner's dead body is in the fridge. it is a police case where the previous owner was murdered and hidden inside the fridge. you dare to live or not. Good luck to your friend |
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QUOTE(froz3nnoob @ Aug 1 2019, 01:13 PM) Example auctioneers official website:https://www.ngchanmau.com/ http://auctions.com.my/ https://leongauctioneer.com/ http://www.ehsanauctioneers.com/ http://www.jtraj.com/ http://www.rajanauctioneers.com/ https://arenaauctioneers.com/ But best is just search at: https://www.lelongtips.com.my/ |
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Aug 4 2019, 01:17 AM) Example auctioneers official website: Thank you very much.https://www.ngchanmau.com/ http://auctions.com.my/ https://leongauctioneer.com/ http://www.ehsanauctioneers.com/ http://www.jtraj.com/ http://www.rajanauctioneers.com/ https://arenaauctioneers.com/ But best is just search at: https://www.lelongtips.com.my/ |
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Owner of 5 landed houses that I bought through auctions over the last 10 years. All of them were below market value and for a reason. Some had been through several rounds at auction. Some pros and cons as well as tips :- +You can get a house below market value and sometimes you do strike gold. +You never know what you get inside. It isn't always as empty as you would think it is. -You cannot check out the interior. If you own a drone you could use it to take a look from the windows which might give you some clues. -You have to move very quickly. -You do need to do your ground and home work thoroughly and know what you are getting yourself into and who assumes what, this is especially so with unpaid taxes, utility arrears and strata maintenance fees. -Have to check for caveats. -Is the owner still living in there? If he is expect trouble. *If you are using leverage and will need rental to cover the mortgage or require a quick turnaround time you better not buy at real estate auctions and you might want to consider if your stamina can last up to a year with no income. *Do you think you are smart? Many are smarter than you. Check out why it hasn't sold in previous rounds. *Visit the premise more than 1 time and especially at nites. *Plenty of frauds going on lately as the whole industry is beset with syndicates and crooks. You can read about my experiences in the spoilers if it is off interest to you. House 1 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 2 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 3 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 4 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 5 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Irresistible, Crazy07, and 13 others liked this post
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Aug 4 2019, 04:17 PM) Owner of 5 landed houses that I bought through auctions over the last 10 years. stuff of legends. thanks for sharing. can write a book out of this.All of them were below market value and for a reason. Some had been through several rounds at auction. Some pros and cons as well as tips :- +You can get a house below market value and sometimes you do strike gold. +You never know what you get inside. It isn't always as empty as you would think it is. -You cannot check out the interior. If you own a drone you could use it to take a look from the windows which might give you some clues. -You have to move very quickly. -You do need to do your ground and home work thoroughly and know what you are getting yourself into and who assumes what, this is especially so with unpaid taxes, utility arrears and strata maintenance fees. -Have to check for caveats. -Is the owner still living in there? If he is expect trouble. *If you are using leverage and will need rental to cover the mortgage or require a quick turnaround time you better not buy at real estate auctions and you might want to consider if your stamina can last up to a year with no income. *Do you think you are smart? Many are smarter than you. Check out why it hasn't sold in previous rounds. *Visit the premise more than 1 time and especially at nites. *Plenty of frauds going on lately as the whole industry is beset with syndicates and crooks. You can read about my experiences in the spoilers if it is off interest to you. House 1 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 2 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 3 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 4 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 5 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Aug 4 2019, 03:16 PM) The house is empty, I move in after acquire the grant, but the owner came and start creating scene, spit and throw rubbish, we go lepak mamak, belanja him makan, turn out he in deep financial situation, I gave him rm500 and I didn't see him around anymore. That is a few years ago and now house got cctv. shinzen90 liked this post
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QUOTE(yunodie @ Aug 4 2019, 04:42 PM) A long way to writing books and hardly a legend. There are people in the market that have purchased many times more than me on this and gain far more returns than I do. They do keep it quiet though as often auctioned properties do tend to carry a certain stigma in them and would be shunned by superstitious buyers. shinzen90 liked this post
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QUOTE(yunodie @ Aug 4 2019, 05:42 PM) Great sharing indeed. But I can say only if you are tuff and strong enough to endure all this challenge can you success in this market. Bro you are 1 of them. shinzen90 liked this post
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Aug 4 2019, 04:17 PM) Owner of 5 landed houses that I bought through auctions over the last 10 years. u are a legend All of them were below market value and for a reason. Some had been through several rounds at auction. Some pros and cons as well as tips :- +You can get a house below market value and sometimes you do strike gold. +You never know what you get inside. It isn't always as empty as you would think it is. -You cannot check out the interior. If you own a drone you could use it to take a look from the windows which might give you some clues. -You have to move very quickly. -You do need to do your ground and home work thoroughly and know what you are getting yourself into and who assumes what, this is especially so with unpaid taxes, utility arrears and strata maintenance fees. -Have to check for caveats. -Is the owner still living in there? If he is expect trouble. *If you are using leverage and will need rental to cover the mortgage or require a quick turnaround time you better not buy at real estate auctions and you might want to consider if your stamina can last up to a year with no income. *Do you think you are smart? Many are smarter than you. Check out why it hasn't sold in previous rounds. *Visit the premise more than 1 time and especially at nites. *Plenty of frauds going on lately as the whole industry is beset with syndicates and crooks. You can read about my experiences in the spoilers if it is off interest to you. House 1 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 2 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 3 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 4 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 5 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « shinzen90 liked this post
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Aug 4 2019, 04:17 PM) Owner of 5 landed houses that I bought through auctions over the last 10 years. Wow, this is interesting!!!.. An eye opener & really need deep pockets 2 play in lelong house gamez. TQVM 4 info sharing.. salute!!All of them were below market value and for a reason. Some had been through several rounds at auction. Some pros and cons as well as tips :- +You can get a house below market value and sometimes you do strike gold. +You never know what you get inside. It isn't always as empty as you would think it is. -You cannot check out the interior. If you own a drone you could use it to take a look from the windows which might give you some clues. -You have to move very quickly. -You do need to do your ground and home work thoroughly and know what you are getting yourself into and who assumes what, this is especially so with unpaid taxes, utility arrears and strata maintenance fees. -Have to check for caveats. -Is the owner still living in there? If he is expect trouble. *If you are using leverage and will need rental to cover the mortgage or require a quick turnaround time you better not buy at real estate auctions and you might want to consider if your stamina can last up to a year with no income. *Do you think you are smart? Many are smarter than you. Check out why it hasn't sold in previous rounds. *Visit the premise more than 1 time and especially at nites. *Plenty of frauds going on lately as the whole industry is beset with syndicates and crooks. You can read about my experiences in the spoilers if it is off interest to you. House 1 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 2 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 3 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 4 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 5 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Aug 4 2019, 04:17 PM) Owner of 5 landed houses that I bought through auctions over the last 10 years. [B]All of them were below market value and for a reason. Some had been through several rounds at auction. Some pros and cons as well as tips :- +You can get a house below market value and sometimes you do strike gold. +You never know what you get inside. It isn't always as empty as you would think it is. -You cannot check out the interior. If you own a drone you could use it to take a look from the windows which might give you some clues. -You have to move very quickly. -You do need to do your ground and home work thoroughly and know what you are getting yourself into and who assumes what, this is especially so with unpaid taxes, utility arrears and strata maintenance fees. -Have to check for caveats. -Is the owner still living in there? If he is expect trouble. *If you are using leverage and will need rental to cover the mortgage or require a quick turnaround time you better not buy at real estate auctions and you might want to consider if your stamina can last up to a year with no income. *Do you think you are smart? Many are smarter than you. Check out why it hasn't sold in previous rounds. *Visit the premise more than 1 time and especially at nites. *Plenty of frauds going on lately as the whole industry is beset with syndicates and crooks. You can read about my experiences in the spoilers if it is off interest to you. House 1 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 2 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 3 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 4 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 5 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « this is by far the best n most interesting post i have read about auction property. Respect your guts, its definitely not for the faint hearted...thanks for sharing. shinzen90 liked this post
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Aug 4 2019, 04:17 PM) Owner of 5 landed houses that I bought through auctions over the last 10 years. Good read bro. Better than most book.All of them were below market value and for a reason. Some had been through several rounds at auction. Some pros and cons as well as tips :- +You can get a house below market value and sometimes you do strike gold. +You never know what you get inside. It isn't always as empty as you would think it is. -You cannot check out the interior. If you own a drone you could use it to take a look from the windows which might give you some clues. -You have to move very quickly. -You do need to do your ground and home work thoroughly and know what you are getting yourself into and who assumes what, this is especially so with unpaid taxes, utility arrears and strata maintenance fees. -Have to check for caveats. -Is the owner still living in there? If he is expect trouble. *If you are using leverage and will need rental to cover the mortgage or require a quick turnaround time you better not buy at real estate auctions and you might want to consider if your stamina can last up to a year with no income. *Do you think you are smart? Many are smarter than you. Check out why it hasn't sold in previous rounds. *Visit the premise more than 1 time and especially at nites. *Plenty of frauds going on lately as the whole industry is beset with syndicates and crooks. You can read about my experiences in the spoilers if it is off interest to you. House 1 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 2 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 3 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 4 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 5 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Bought one lelong unit too. Regret abit cos I was somewhat rushing at it and dint do much due diligence. But overall I'll will be back for more lelong unit due to massive saving compared to market value and with more experience now haha. This post has been edited by heliozguard: Aug 25 2019, 08:22 PM |
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Aug 4 2019, 04:17 PM) Owner of 5 landed houses that I bought through auctions over the last 10 years. Wow that's detailed. If you don't mind me asking, how do you have so much money to fund 5 houses?All of them were below market value and for a reason. Some had been through several rounds at auction. Some pros and cons as well as tips :- +You can get a house below market value and sometimes you do strike gold. +You never know what you get inside. It isn't always as empty as you would think it is. -You cannot check out the interior. If you own a drone you could use it to take a look from the windows which might give you some clues. -You have to move very quickly. -You do need to do your ground and home work thoroughly and know what you are getting yourself into and who assumes what, this is especially so with unpaid taxes, utility arrears and strata maintenance fees. -Have to check for caveats. -Is the owner still living in there? If he is expect trouble. *If you are using leverage and will need rental to cover the mortgage or require a quick turnaround time you better not buy at real estate auctions and you might want to consider if your stamina can last up to a year with no income. *Do you think you are smart? Many are smarter than you. Check out why it hasn't sold in previous rounds. *Visit the premise more than 1 time and especially at nites. *Plenty of frauds going on lately as the whole industry is beset with syndicates and crooks. You can read about my experiences in the spoilers if it is off interest to you. House 1 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 2 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 3 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 4 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 5 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Aug 4 2019, 04:17 PM) Owner of 5 landed houses that I bought through auctions over the last 10 years. bro, good shit you have there, seriously good shit.All of them were below market value and for a reason. Some had been through several rounds at auction. Some pros and cons as well as tips :- +You can get a house below market value and sometimes you do strike gold. +You never know what you get inside. It isn't always as empty as you would think it is. -You cannot check out the interior. If you own a drone you could use it to take a look from the windows which might give you some clues. -You have to move very quickly. -You do need to do your ground and home work thoroughly and know what you are getting yourself into and who assumes what, this is especially so with unpaid taxes, utility arrears and strata maintenance fees. -Have to check for caveats. -Is the owner still living in there? If he is expect trouble. *If you are using leverage and will need rental to cover the mortgage or require a quick turnaround time you better not buy at real estate auctions and you might want to consider if your stamina can last up to a year with no income. *Do you think you are smart? Many are smarter than you. Check out why it hasn't sold in previous rounds. *Visit the premise more than 1 time and especially at nites. *Plenty of frauds going on lately as the whole industry is beset with syndicates and crooks. You can read about my experiences in the spoilers if it is off interest to you. House 1 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 2 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 3 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 4 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 5 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « wanna ask you 1. you've dumped so much money to redo whole house, is it still worth it ah ? some might eat up 30% of the under-value stuff d 2. you did all these cash dumping things based on first property or from extra source ? like you've started with 1mil then snowball it ?? 3. where you learn those legal yet dirty tricks from ?? damn epic !!! btw, i have a commercial land for sale way below market value. if you can swallow 20acres let me know then. |
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This is 1 of the reasons why there is a supply of Leong units
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QUOTE(kbhai @ Aug 26 2019, 01:41 PM) You have to get an eviction order and then have court bailiffs to enforce the eviction order. Will take anywhere between 6-18 months. Better to do a "cash for keys" deal as it will work out cheaper. |
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Aug 26 2019, 02:52 PM) You have to get an eviction order and then have court bailiffs to enforce the eviction order. ok.. provided if they accept it. if not, then have to use illegal ways....Will take anywhere between 6-18 months. Better to do a "cash for keys" deal as it will work out cheaper. |
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QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Aug 25 2019, 09:34 PM) Having a stellar credit rating does help. I have a fantastic one due to having credit card while at university, phone and utility bills in my own name and making sure I was seen as a good paymaster. I had my first credit card, one issued by Capital One when I turned 18 and then had one by Wells Fargo when I was 19. Before I returned to Malaysia :- » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « When I returned to Malaysia :- » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « shinzen90 liked this post
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Aug 26 2019, 09:10 AM) bro, good shit you have there, seriously good shit. 1) Yes it is, I dumped the money into it the valuation went up by more than I had dumped into it. wanna ask you 1. you've dumped so much money to redo whole house, is it still worth it ah ? some might eat up 30% of the under-value stuff d 2. you did all these cash dumping things based on first property or from extra source ? like you've started with 1mil then snowball it ?? 3. where you learn those legal yet dirty tricks from ?? damn epic !!! btw, i have a commercial land for sale way below market value. if you can swallow 20acres let me know then. 2) Remortgaging and I did have to pump in some money on my own when it came to maintenance. 3) 18 years of doing it, some American and British tricks. Some I learned from seasoned property flippers and some from lawyer friends of mine. Don't have that type of stamina for 20 acres of commercial land. Single parcel? Am looking for industrial land by a riverside actually. shinzen90 liked this post
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Aug 26 2019, 06:28 PM) 1) Yes it is, I dumped the money into it the valuation went up by more than I had dumped into it. Lol at house number 5. their car got trashed, cafe got disturbed, gate got modified, water and electricity bill got cut also they hog that house. That lady really had serious balls.2) Remortgaging and I did have to pump in some money on my own when it came to maintenance. 3) 18 years of doing it, some American and British tricks. Some I learned from seasoned property flippers and some from lawyer friends of mine. Don't have that type of stamina for 20 acres of commercial land. Single parcel? Am looking for industrial land by a riverside actually. Ya single parcel. |
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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Aug 26 2019, 06:44 PM) Lol at house number 5. their car got trashed, cafe got disturbed, gate got modified, water and electricity bill got cut also they hog that house. That lady really had serious balls. She would still be there if it wasn't for all those actions. Ya single parcel. She definitely had zero intention of leaving but for the "kidnap" , it is a history on its own how she became the owner of that house. shinzen90 liked this post
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QUOTE(MGM @ Aug 26 2019, 09:54 AM) This is 1 of the reasons why there is a supply of Leong units Yes compress loan / multiple submission. http://www.enanyang.my/news/20190825/%e5%8...8d%9a%e5%a3%ab/ Here few example: 1. Cristal Serin, few owners doing buying in bulk: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=92475531 2. Seasons Garden + 1 unit at Puncak 7 Shah Alam: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=93693864 |
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Aug 26 2019, 09:43 PM) She would still be there if it wasn't for all those actions. wow ! She definitely had zero intention of leaving but for the "kidnap" , it is a history on its own how she became the owner of that house. i'm fascinated at your sharing . Just wondering, since she is quite rich (several shops, business etc) . and able to wage such such war/battles, which is losing for all parties. why not she just buy up the property instead ? is she trying to drain the bank? (the house get auction , and later she buy back through auction , so bank have losses) by the way, side questions , if u have the time and willing to share. any good ways to get extra income ? (eg properties , stock , etc ) Just buying and sell properties is extremely risky now . Thank you very much for your sharing |
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Latest reserve price actually drop to 504k now. Possible to drop further 10% each round if nobody interested.
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Source: https://www.thestar.com.my/metro/metro-news...l-ibs-treatment Launch at 42k rumah selangorku sold in the lelong market today. Ground floor unit. Non bumi lot. Brand new condition. Attracted 32 bidders just now. Here the final price: |
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I've bought auction unit using bank loan. At first I was told that the unit is fully furnish. When I entered the unit, all the furnishes have been moved out. I ask the management office, how could you let the previous owner move the item when the unit is auctioned out!!!
Can I know what document shows that I'm the legal owner? After balance price have been disburse by the bank or once they receive the doa? Please help |
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QUOTE(JenifferBlue9491 @ Jan 13 2020, 09:27 PM) I've bought auction unit using bank loan. At first I was told that the unit is fully furnish. When I entered the unit, all the furnishes have been moved out. I ask the management office, how could you let the previous owner move the item when the unit is auctioned out!!! Even if the unit is fully furnish also, there is always a possibility the owner will clear out everything once he found out that already got buyer successfully bought over the unit. Can I know what document shows that I'm the legal owner? After balance price have been disburse by the bank or once they receive the doa? Please help The owner is still the legal owner until you have settled all the name transfer process. Yes once DOA is completed. Check with your appointed lawyer. |
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Transfer name process as in the management change to my name in their system?
Meaning that DOA stamped only I'm a legal owner. If I were to blame the management office for letting the previous owner to remove the item when they know the unit have a successful will I win the case then? I'm the successfully bidder they shud have monitor my unit making sure the previous don't remove my item |
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QUOTE(JenifferBlue9491 @ Jan 14 2020, 10:58 PM) Transfer name process as in the management change to my name in their system? You got the wrong understanding. Is not win the bid today = automatic today onwards you are the rightful owner. Even if you pay 100% to buy (no take any loan), will still need time for some legal process to claer. Meaning that DOA stamped only I'm a legal owner. If I were to blame the management office for letting the previous owner to remove the item when they know the unit have a successful will I win the case then? I'm the successfully bidder they shud have monitor my unit making sure the previous don't remove my item The owner is still the legal owner until you have settled all the name transfer process. Items or furniture in the unit legally still considered his and he got the right to move everything out until you settle the name transfer process in 90/120 days time. Normally those movable stuff such as fridge, washing machine, etc can be easily removed and transport out. And valuable item such as aircon units, yes he able to sell to get some money too. But those built in stuff such as kitchen cabinet, built in wardrobe or grill, very seldom owner will take out. Unless he purposely want to destroy the unit, then yeah this case considered as unlucky. Lights and fans also very rare the owner will remove. |
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Jan 16 2020, 04:26 PM
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Nice read from Bill collectors. Thanks man.
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I heard, for lelong properties, bank staff of the lelong properties has first end to purchase
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QUOTE(taiping... @ Apr 7 2020, 02:25 PM) No such thing. Need to bid fair and square in the auction hall be it at private auctioneer venue, land office or high court or via online. Will be witness by lawyer. If bank bought back from auction then yes. PBB started to buy back some units when the price drop very cheap but still no bidder. They will register and place a bid. Probably try to dispose the unit off via subsale market. |
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Aug 4 2019, 04:17 PM) Owner of 5 landed houses that I bought through auctions over the last 10 years. Bro, you have my respect!All of them were below market value and for a reason. Some had been through several rounds at auction. Some pros and cons as well as tips :- +You can get a house below market value and sometimes you do strike gold. +You never know what you get inside. It isn't always as empty as you would think it is. -You cannot check out the interior. If you own a drone you could use it to take a look from the windows which might give you some clues. -You have to move very quickly. -You do need to do your ground and home work thoroughly and know what you are getting yourself into and who assumes what, this is especially so with unpaid taxes, utility arrears and strata maintenance fees. -Have to check for caveats. -Is the owner still living in there? If he is expect trouble. *If you are using leverage and will need rental to cover the mortgage or require a quick turnaround time you better not buy at real estate auctions and you might want to consider if your stamina can last up to a year with no income. *Do you think you are smart? Many are smarter than you. Check out why it hasn't sold in previous rounds. *Visit the premise more than 1 time and especially at nites. *Plenty of frauds going on lately as the whole industry is beset with syndicates and crooks. You can read about my experiences in the spoilers if it is off interest to you. House 1 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 2 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 3 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 4 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 5 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « shinzen90 liked this post
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Aug 26 2019, 09:43 PM) She would still be there if it wasn't for all those actions. Wow, you are very resourceful. Btw, do you still go for auctions? I heard it is very difficult to make profits nowadays as it is crowded.She definitely had zero intention of leaving but for the "kidnap" , it is a history on its own how she became the owner of that house. |
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QUOTE(Solar Calendar @ Apr 9 2020, 03:32 AM) Wow, you are very resourceful. Btw, do you still go for auctions? I heard it is very difficult to make profits nowadays as it is crowded. Nope, too damn many scams and syndicates has infiltrated this avenue these days. Also anything worth buying won't be cheap. Generally nothing worth buying as well as most of the landed properties are too far away from my focus area, those that are in the focus area usually have something bad about it such as facing a T-junction, not nice number or problematic occupant. If a bargain landed house is what you are after usually you could find one with less hassle by just searching on iProperty and being a bit patient till you find a subsale with a desperate enough seller. Plenty of those about these days. Condos? Generally I don't touch them these days. In any case as usual anything worth buying you won't be able to get it at a bargain and it is an even riskier buy as it is very difficult to ascertain if someone still lives in it. You don't need to go through the trouble of buying at auction for a condo, if it is a newish one maybe the developer may still have some units available which you could get for less otherwise wait long enough and a subsale by a distressed seller will come by. Either way now isn't the time to get into real estate. shinzen90 liked this post
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Aug 4 2019, 05:17 PM) Owner of 5 landed houses that I bought through auctions over the last 10 years. All of them were below market value and for a reason. Some had been through several rounds at auction. Some pros and cons as well as tips :- +You can get a house below market value and sometimes you do strike gold. +You never know what you get inside. It isn't always as empty as you would think it is. -You cannot check out the interior. If you own a drone you could use it to take a look from the windows which might give you some clues. -You have to move very quickly. -You do need to do your ground and home work thoroughly and know what you are getting yourself into and who assumes what, this is especially so with unpaid taxes, utility arrears and strata maintenance fees. -Have to check for caveats. -Is the owner still living in there? If he is expect trouble. *If you are using leverage and will need rental to cover the mortgage or require a quick turnaround time you better not buy at real estate auctions and you might want to consider if your stamina can last up to a year with no income. *Do you think you are smart? Many are smarter than you. Check out why it hasn't sold in previous rounds. *Visit the premise more than 1 time and especially at nites. *Plenty of frauds going on lately as the whole industry is beset with syndicates and crooks. You can read about my experiences in the spoilers if it is off interest to you. House 1 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 2 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 3 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 4 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 5 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Aug 4 2019, 04:17 PM) Owner of 5 landed houses that I bought through auctions over the last 10 years. impressive experience..All of them were below market value and for a reason. Some had been through several rounds at auction. Some pros and cons as well as tips :- +You can get a house below market value and sometimes you do strike gold. +You never know what you get inside. It isn't always as empty as you would think it is. -You cannot check out the interior. If you own a drone you could use it to take a look from the windows which might give you some clues. -You have to move very quickly. -You do need to do your ground and home work thoroughly and know what you are getting yourself into and who assumes what, this is especially so with unpaid taxes, utility arrears and strata maintenance fees. -Have to check for caveats. -Is the owner still living in there? If he is expect trouble. *If you are using leverage and will need rental to cover the mortgage or require a quick turnaround time you better not buy at real estate auctions and you might want to consider if your stamina can last up to a year with no income. *Do you think you are smart? Many are smarter than you. Check out why it hasn't sold in previous rounds. *Visit the premise more than 1 time and especially at nites. *Plenty of frauds going on lately as the whole industry is beset with syndicates and crooks. You can read about my experiences in the spoilers if it is off interest to you. House 1 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 2 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 3 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 4 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 5 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Did anyone join the auction expert/guru course which you feel it really helpful?
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QUOTE(alandhw @ Apr 27 2020, 11:24 AM) That's a sure way to throw away hard earned money for bad causes. |
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QUOTE(taiping... @ Apr 7 2020, 02:25 PM) QUOTE(alandhw @ Apr 27 2020, 11:24 AM) Anyone interested to watch conduct of property auction can view this live now. Via online bidding only. Start at 11AM.Got around 50 units under lelong by Ambank. |
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May 29 2020, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Aug 4 2019, 04:17 PM) Owner of 5 landed houses that I bought through auctions over the last 10 years. I am speechless, jawdropped. The stories are waaayyy more interesting than HK-Korean-China-Indonesia-India drama combined! Felt much more adrenalin pumping than Hunger Games!All of them were below market value and for a reason. Some had been through several rounds at auction. Some pros and cons as well as tips :- +You can get a house below market value and sometimes you do strike gold. +You never know what you get inside. It isn't always as empty as you would think it is. -You cannot check out the interior. If you own a drone you could use it to take a look from the windows which might give you some clues. -You have to move very quickly. -You do need to do your ground and home work thoroughly and know what you are getting yourself into and who assumes what, this is especially so with unpaid taxes, utility arrears and strata maintenance fees. -Have to check for caveats. -Is the owner still living in there? If he is expect trouble. *If you are using leverage and will need rental to cover the mortgage or require a quick turnaround time you better not buy at real estate auctions and you might want to consider if your stamina can last up to a year with no income. *Do you think you are smart? Many are smarter than you. Check out why it hasn't sold in previous rounds. *Visit the premise more than 1 time and especially at nites. *Plenty of frauds going on lately as the whole industry is beset with syndicates and crooks. You can read about my experiences in the spoilers if it is off interest to you. House 1 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 2 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 3 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 4 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 5 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « shinzen90 liked this post
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Apr 3 2021, 11:05 PM
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jan 14 2020, 05:42 AM) Even if the unit is fully furnish also, there is always a possibility the owner will clear out everything once he found out that already got buyer successfully bought over the unit. Hi want to check, refer to above, for master title case, if I have settled the balance payment but the DOA not yet completed, the building management can dont let me to go in the unit?The owner is still the legal owner until you have settled all the name transfer process. Yes once DOA is completed. Check with your appointed lawyer. |
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QUOTE(chinwh9176 @ Apr 3 2021, 11:05 PM) Hi want to check, refer to above, for master title case, if I have settled the balance payment but the DOA not yet completed, the building management can dont let me to go in the unit? Possible. All depending on how knowledgeable the management is. Some places didnt even check. As long as you pay up the outstanding maintenance fees, they allow the new owner to do new access card, therefore the new owner can actually break into the unit if is vacant. Some places required DOA to complete. So it depends case by case basis. |
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Apr 3 2021, 11:13 PM) Possible. All depending on how knowledgeable the management is. Thanks for info, if they insist for DOA to complete, should i just wait until DOA done or can insist wan to go in ?Some places didnt even check. As long as you pay up the outstanding maintenance fees, they allow the new owner to do new access card, therefore the new owner can actually break into the unit if is vacant. Some places required DOA to complete. So it depends case by case basis. |
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Apr 3 2021, 11:25 PM) Hi, now i get my DOA already and send to developer last Monday and wait them to issue a letter to JMB so that i can go in.However until now no exact date given when the letter will be issued and sent to JMB. I find JMB and they say need the developer letter only they allow me to go in Can i insist to go in? or any other way i can do like make police report? |
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Im planning to get a lelong house too. Hope so can get an empty wan
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Jan 26 2022, 12:18 AM
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Hi, I have a question.
Is it possible for owner to take his/her property of the High Courts? Assuming that the property had been on high court auction for 1 round but no bidders. Before it goes for 2nd round, if buyer wants to buy off from owner, can the owner still sell to buyer? Or it is already with the bank's possession? Owner owes the bank and defaulted, hence appeared in high court for auction. Thank you Sifu |
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Jan 26 2022, 06:15 AM
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Jan 26 2022, 12:18 AM) Hi, I have a question. Yes .... but seller have to inform the bank and also to pay all or some outstanding instalments ahead.Is it possible for owner to take his/her property of the High Courts? Assuming that the property had been on high court auction for 1 round but no bidders. Before it goes for 2nd round, if buyer wants to buy off from owner, can the owner still sell to buyer? Or it is already with the bank's possession? Owner owes the bank and defaulted, hence appeared in high court for auction. Thank you Sifu Buyers of such property have to be careful as sometime the selling price is not able to fully settle the outstanding loan and the bank will not discharge the property if seller is unable to do it. So it is not always 'cheaper' to buy from distressed seller direct and buying through auction is a better bet as the bank guarantee transfer of ownership. Any shortfall will be recovered from the borrower/owner. This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jan 26 2022, 06:39 AM Michaelbyz23 liked this post
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jan 26 2022, 06:15 AM) Yes .... but seller have to inform the bank and also to pay all or some outstanding instalments ahead. Meaning to say, if owner doesnt have the money to pay the outstanding instalments, buyer will have to fork out for the owner?Buyers of such property have to be careful as sometime the selling price is not able to fully settle the outstanding loan and the bank will not discharge the property if seller is unable to do it. So it is not always 'cheaper' to buy from distressed seller direct and buying through auction is a better bet as the bank guarantee transfer of ownership. Any shortfall will be recovered from the borrower/owner. There will be risks if owner in the end decided not to sell after buyer pay the outstanding right? |
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Jan 26 2022, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Jan 26 2022, 12:18 PM) Meaning to say, if owner doesnt have the money to pay the outstanding instalments, buyer will have to fork out for the owner? Your lawyer have to get all relevant documents signed b4 any payment is made to the bank.There will be risks if owner in the end decided not to sell after buyer pay the outstanding right? Michaelbyz23 liked this post
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Jan 26 2022, 04:35 PM
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Thanks.
Also, the auction agent asked me to pay upfront 1% before proceed to bidding and buying POS. Is this normal procedure? If the bidding unsuccessful the 1% forfeited? |
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Jan 26 2022, 04:35 PM) Thanks. I believed the 1% is the agent's commission. Check with him on the tnc.Also, the auction agent asked me to pay upfront 1% before proceed to bidding and buying POS. Is this normal procedure? If the bidding unsuccessful the 1% forfeited? If you are hardworking, you should be able to find out who is the auctioneer and get a copy from them. There should also be few agents working on the property. |
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Jan 26 2022, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jan 26 2022, 05:02 PM) I believed the 1% is the agent's commission. Check with him on the tnc. Its high court auction. Does it mean that I go to high court and ask for the Proclamation of sales?If you are hardworking, you should be able to find out who is the auctioneer and get a copy from them. There should also be few agents working on the property. |
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Jan 26 2022, 09:05 PM) I am not sure they have it on the High Court notice board. OrRegister as a paid member for Lelong Tip. You can check the info there. https://www.lelongtips.com.my/ Alternatively, you can check the newspaper. It should be advertised. This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jan 26 2022, 09:28 PM |
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Jan 26 2022, 04:35 PM) Thanks. You can go for it yourself without going through agent for auction.Also, the auction agent asked me to pay upfront 1% before proceed to bidding and buying POS. Is this normal procedure? If the bidding unsuccessful the 1% forfeited? QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Jan 26 2022, 09:05 PM) https://elelong.kehakiman.gov.my/BidderWebFind the property here and download the POS for high court auctions. If auction under specific auctioneer usually just email them they will send to you. QUOTE(LuckyBai @ Jan 26 2022, 09:07 PM) If you don’t go survey yes…that’s why stalking skills very important if you wanna buy auction units. Michaelbyz23 liked this post
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QUOTE(scorptim @ Jan 26 2022, 11:26 PM) You can go for it yourself without going through agent for auction. Thank you very much for the information.https://elelong.kehakiman.gov.my/BidderWeb Find the property here and download the POS for high court auctions. If auction under specific auctioneer usually just email them they will send to you. If you don’t go survey yes…that’s why stalking skills very important if you wanna buy auction units. But not sure why I can't find Sarawak high court auction website. And in the list of states, sarawak is not listed. This post has been edited by Michaelbyz23: Jan 27 2022, 10:30 AM |
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QUOTE(Michaelbyz23 @ Jan 27 2022, 10:29 AM) Thank you very much for the information. Ah ok didn’t know you were looking for sarawak. Not sure if they have it online, I also cannot find 😅. Maybe can try contact the high court about it.But not sure why I can't find Sarawak high court auction website. And in the list of states, sarawak is not listed. Michaelbyz23 liked this post
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QUOTE(BillCollector @ Aug 4 2019, 04:17 PM) Owner of 5 landed houses that I bought through auctions over the last 10 years. wow impressive story. thank you for your time.All of them were below market value and for a reason. Some had been through several rounds at auction. Some pros and cons as well as tips :- +You can get a house below market value and sometimes you do strike gold. +You never know what you get inside. It isn't always as empty as you would think it is. -You cannot check out the interior. If you own a drone you could use it to take a look from the windows which might give you some clues. -You have to move very quickly. -You do need to do your ground and home work thoroughly and know what you are getting yourself into and who assumes what, this is especially so with unpaid taxes, utility arrears and strata maintenance fees. -Have to check for caveats. -Is the owner still living in there? If he is expect trouble. *If you are using leverage and will need rental to cover the mortgage or require a quick turnaround time you better not buy at real estate auctions and you might want to consider if your stamina can last up to a year with no income. *Do you think you are smart? Many are smarter than you. Check out why it hasn't sold in previous rounds. *Visit the premise more than 1 time and especially at nites. *Plenty of frauds going on lately as the whole industry is beset with syndicates and crooks. You can read about my experiences in the spoilers if it is off interest to you. House 1 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 2 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 3 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 4 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « House 5 » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « for house 5, the court order also can manipulate ? shouldn't there be police and relevant authorities to break in the house evict and occupants after certain period. and buyer can sue for losses claim due to delaying eviction ? shinzen90 liked this post
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Hi, my agent ask to pass him the bank draft to him. Is it safe?
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I'd get a lelong next round too So many newly developed condo putting up units for auction. Those original buyer basically paying 10-20% off for you and you get it cheaper and in brand new condition. That's the only reason I like BBBUUU property gurus. It works to our advantage if you use it properly. This post has been edited by gashout: Mar 5 2024, 04:27 AM Sihambodoh and hksgmy liked this post
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QUOTE(gashout @ Mar 5 2024, 04:27 AM) I'd get a lelong next round too Heheh.. clever girl. Let someone else take the hit of the "depreciation", so there's more upside for you So many newly developed condo putting up units for auction. Those original buyer basically paying 10-20% off for you and you get it cheaper and in brand new condition. That's the only reason I like BBBUUU property gurus. It works to our advantage if you use it properly. Sihambodoh and gashout liked this post
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Mar 5 2024, 05:24 PM
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one thing to take note is if the strata title is out, whether developer agree on direct transfer ? saving money is one thing, if double transfer, need more time to complete the transaction.
yes, now many virgin units to choose from |
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Apr 24 2024, 12:12 AM
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hi, is there any concerns/things I should take note before enter bid for a recently completed condo but strata title not yet issue by developer?
Will there be like issue like double transfer take time kena penalty or cannot get loan from bank need cash buy etc.? |
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QUOTE(AhBoy~~ @ Apr 24 2024, 12:12 AM) hi, is there any concerns/things I should take note before enter bid for a recently completed condo but strata title not yet issue by developer? The post above yours seem to hint that this might be an issue…. Caveat emptorWill there be like issue like double transfer take time kena penalty or cannot get loan from bank need cash buy etc.? |
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Jul 2 2025, 05:02 AM
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it is worth it to buy a lelong property just under 20% of market price?
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Jul 2 2025, 05:10 AM
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Jul 2 2025, 08:54 AM
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Jul 2 2025, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(gedebe @ Jul 2 2025, 08:54 AM) Depends on the property and location. If good area, less 10- 15% is considered good bargain. Having said that, if good area, bidding can also goes above reserved or market price if someone desperate to own it.Few years back, I won a new VP property on reserved price which is 10% above snp as a single bidder. Liked the view, high floor and also an endlot unit without neighbour main door beside. Paper profit today based on subsale, I made about 70k. This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jul 2 2025, 10:38 AM |
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Jul 2 2025, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jul 2 2025, 10:33 AM) Depends on the property and location. If good area, less 10- 15% is considered good bargain. Having said that, if good area, bidding can also goes above reserved or market price if someone desperate to own it. wau, this like buying a subsale but yet it is a lelong!Few years back, I won a new VP property on reserved price which is 10% above snp as a single bidder. Liked the view, high floor and also an endlot unit without neighbour main door beside. Paper profit today based on subsale, I made about 70k. |
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Jul 12 2025, 08:10 AM
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Jul 17 2025, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE(gedebe @ Jul 2 2025, 11:21 AM) subsale at least can go nego and walk in, look around, ask for freebies and drag payment and SPA etc.lelong, got fix 90 days to get loan apporval etc and sign SPA iirc. IMO, if lelong 10% or 20% less down market and you like, can consider. But most of the time, the sohai bank's "10% below market" is the market value.....considering how property market has slumped over the years. just wait and if bid price hit market value, might as well not take the bait unless you die die want that house |
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Jul 17 2025, 01:20 PM
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anyone can recommend a very good lawyer for lelong and also banker?
my lawyer mmg cap ayam. |
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Jul 17 2025, 05:45 PM
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Jul 17 2025, 05:50 PM
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QUOTE(Porkycorgi5588 @ Jul 17 2025, 09:33 AM) subsale at least can go nego and walk in, look around, ask for freebies and drag payment and SPA etc. If starting bid price tak ngam, then wait for next round, if still available.lelong, got fix 90 days to get loan apporval etc and sign SPA iirc. IMO, if lelong 10% or 20% less down market and you like, can consider. But most of the time, the sohai bank's "10% below market" is the market value.....considering how property market has slumped over the years. just wait and if bid price hit market value, might as well not take the bait unless you die die want that house But many a time, the second or third round auction price will reach first round price. Many sohai bidders start late hopping to catch the worm but end up eaten by python (bank) 😂 This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jul 17 2025, 05:51 PM |
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Jul 17 2025, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(mini orchard @ Jul 17 2025, 05:50 PM) If starting bid price tak ngam, then wait for next round, if still available. next round is next year...the next year...then next year But many a time, the second or third round auction price will reach first round price. Many sohai bidders start late hopping to catch the worm but end up eaten by python (bank) 😂 by that time, you might as well commit to renting forever or buy other house already |
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QUOTE(Porkycorgi5588 @ Jul 17 2025, 09:50 PM) next round is next year...the next year...then next year Banks also want to dispose of these properties quickly, don't think will wait 1 year for next round of auctions. The last condo I tried to bid got auctioned 3-4 times in a year, the price dropping around 10% for successive auctions.by that time, you might as well commit to renting forever or buy other house already |
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Jul 18 2025, 01:26 AM
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Jul 18 2025, 01:28 AM
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Jul 18 2025, 01:31 AM
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best case is buy lelong house which is still brand new, no owed maintenance fees, got brand new partially furnished, below market value 50%, and no other bidders bid and make the price high, in good location, got MRT nearby, near KLCC, unblocked view, high floor, freehold.
that is the best. |
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Jul 18 2025, 07:56 AM
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QUOTE(AbbyCom @ Jul 18 2025, 12:39 AM) Banks also want to dispose of these properties quickly, don't think will wait 1 year for next round of auctions. The last condo I tried to bid got auctioned 3-4 times in a year, the price dropping around 10% for successive auctions. He is talking in his sleep. 🤣This post has been edited by mini orchard: Jul 18 2025, 07:58 AM AbbyCom liked this post
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QUOTE(BL98 @ Jul 18 2025, 01:31 AM) best case is buy lelong house which is still brand new, no owed maintenance fees, got brand new partially furnished, below market value 50%, and no other bidders bid and make the price high, in good location, got MRT nearby, near KLCC, unblocked view, high floor, freehold. no such thing la..... that is the best. best case scenario is Cyberjaya Condos, but those mostly got maintenance fees stacked high up. but if drop until 50% below market value also, it means that is the market value. no body wanna touch at "actual market value" |
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