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 Buying LELONG property, Advice needed

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post Aug 3 2019, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(froz3nnoob @ Aug 1 2019, 01:13 PM)
What is POS ya? sorry newbie here biggrin.gif
website for lelong unit? any website recommend? I do see a few lelong unit on chinese newspaper  hmm.gif  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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Piece of Shit???

It is actually Proclamation of Sale.
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post Aug 4 2019, 04:17 PM

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Owner of 5 landed houses that I bought through auctions over the last 10 years.


All of them were below market value and for a reason. Some had been through several rounds at auction.


Some pros and cons as well as tips :-


+You can get a house below market value and sometimes you do strike gold.
+You never know what you get inside. It isn't always as empty as you would think it is.


-You cannot check out the interior. If you own a drone you could use it to take a look from the windows which might give you some clues.
-You have to move very quickly.
-You do need to do your ground and home work thoroughly and know what you are getting yourself into and who assumes what, this is especially so with unpaid taxes, utility arrears and strata maintenance fees.
-Have to check for caveats.
-Is the owner still living in there? If he is expect trouble.


*If you are using leverage and will need rental to cover the mortgage or require a quick turnaround time you better not buy at real estate auctions and you might want to consider if your stamina can last up to a year with no income.
*Do you think you are smart? Many are smarter than you. Check out why it hasn't sold in previous rounds.
*Visit the premise more than 1 time and especially at nites.
*Plenty of frauds going on lately as the whole industry is beset with syndicates and crooks.


You can read about my experiences in the spoilers if it is off interest to you.


House 1
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House 2


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House 3


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House 4


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House 5


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post Aug 5 2019, 12:51 AM

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QUOTE(yunodie @ Aug 4 2019, 04:42 PM)
stuff of legends. thanks for sharing. can write a book out of this.
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A long way to writing books and hardly a legend.

There are people in the market that have purchased many times more than me on this and gain far more returns than I do.

They do keep it quiet though as often auctioned properties do tend to carry a certain stigma in them and would be shunned by superstitious buyers.
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post Aug 24 2019, 12:59 AM

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QUOTE(TheOnly1 @ Aug 23 2019, 08:51 PM)
Why scared the leavers will outrage and vandalise property?
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Many people buy these auction properties on a shoe-string budget hoping to turn it around for profit.

A vandalized property cost money to put right and they are hoping to avoid that.
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post Aug 26 2019, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(kbhai @ Aug 26 2019, 01:41 PM)
If face with such people who don't want to leave, legally what we can do?
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You have to get an eviction order and then have court bailiffs to enforce the eviction order.

Will take anywhere between 6-18 months.

Better to do a "cash for keys" deal as it will work out cheaper.
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post Aug 26 2019, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(kbhai @ Aug 26 2019, 03:30 PM)
ok.. provided if they accept it. if not, then have to use illegal ways....
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That's why you must always do your due diligence and be extremely thorough on it before raising your hand at the auction.
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post Aug 26 2019, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Aug 25 2019, 09:34 PM)
Wow that's detailed. If you don't mind me asking, how do you have so much money to fund 5 houses?
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Having a stellar credit rating does help. I have a fantastic one due to having credit card while at university, phone and utility bills in my own name and making sure I was seen as a good paymaster. I had my first credit card, one issued by Capital One when I turned 18 and then had one by Wells Fargo when I was 19.

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post Aug 26 2019, 06:28 PM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Aug 26 2019, 09:10 AM)
bro, good shit you have there, seriously good shit.

wanna ask you
1. you've dumped so much money to redo whole house, is it still worth it ah ? some might eat up 30% of the under-value stuff d
2. you did all these cash dumping things based on first property or from extra source ? like you've started with 1mil then snowball it ??
3. where you learn those legal yet dirty tricks from ??
damn epic !!!

btw, i have a commercial land for sale way below market value. if you can swallow 20acres let me know then.
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1) Yes it is, I dumped the money into it the valuation went up by more than I had dumped into it.

2) Remortgaging and I did have to pump in some money on my own when it came to maintenance.

3) 18 years of doing it, some American and British tricks. Some I learned from seasoned property flippers and some from lawyer friends of mine.

Don't have that type of stamina for 20 acres of commercial land. Single parcel?

Am looking for industrial land by a riverside actually.
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post Aug 26 2019, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(AllnGap @ Aug 26 2019, 06:44 PM)
Lol at house number 5. their car got trashed, cafe got disturbed, gate got modified, water and electricity bill got cut also they hog that house. That lady really had serious balls.

Ya single parcel.
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She would still be there if it wasn't for all those actions.

She definitely had zero intention of leaving but for the "kidnap" , it is a history on its own how she became the owner of that house.
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post Apr 9 2020, 03:41 AM

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QUOTE(Solar Calendar @ Apr 9 2020, 03:32 AM)
Wow, you are very resourceful. Btw, do you still go for auctions? I heard it is very difficult to make profits nowadays as it is crowded.
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Nope, too damn many scams and syndicates has infiltrated this avenue these days. Also anything worth buying won't be cheap.

Generally nothing worth buying as well as most of the landed properties are too far away from my focus area, those that are in the focus area usually have something bad about it such as facing a T-junction, not nice number or problematic occupant.

If a bargain landed house is what you are after usually you could find one with less hassle by just searching on iProperty and being a bit patient till you find a subsale with a desperate enough seller. Plenty of those about these days.

Condos? Generally I don't touch them these days. In any case as usual anything worth buying you won't be able to get it at a bargain and it is an even riskier buy as it is very difficult to ascertain if someone still lives in it. You don't need to go through the trouble of buying at auction for a condo, if it is a newish one maybe the developer may still have some units available which you could get for less otherwise wait long enough and a subsale by a distressed seller will come by.

Either way now isn't the time to get into real estate.
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post Apr 27 2020, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(alandhw @ Apr 27 2020, 11:24 AM)
Did anyone join the auction expert/guru course which you feel it really helpful?
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That's a sure way to throw away hard earned money for bad causes.

 

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