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post May 27 2007, 11:55 PM

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post May 28 2007, 12:45 AM

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post May 28 2007, 07:19 AM

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Guys,
sorry for barging in- biggrin.gif
does anyone here know the release date in Malaysia?
thinking of spending my summer day finishing the game... sigh

Protoss Rules!!
darn, the invitation video only shows Protoss units,
What happen to the good terrans and the Zerg?

Hmm, zerg..
THe last brood war mission shows the discovery of Zerg + protoss unit in
a stasis cell.
Zerg+Protoss= A Pro Zerg? sweat.gif
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post May 28 2007, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(ubhm @ May 28 2007, 12:45 AM)
Kerrigan=queen of pain tongue.gif

ok ok no more being a dotard.
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It's Queen of Blades. nod.gif
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post May 28 2007, 10:29 AM

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hmm..... they gave kerrigan a new look drool.gif
she probably look more hawt than she was in SC Broodwar
No more the spider claws but now wings brows.gif
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QUOTE(N30rang3r @ May 28 2007, 10:29 AM)
hmm..... they gave kerrigan a new look  drool.gif
she probably look more hawt than she was in SC Broodwar
No more the spider claws but now wings  brows.gif
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She still look hawt and evil brows.gif
She is voted the 2nd best games villain, just behind Sephiroth of FFVII blush.gif blush.gif
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post May 28 2007, 12:09 PM

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when is starcraft2 come out?? the ingame graphics cannot beat COH, C&C3, World in Conflict. If they get delay and delay again, all other even suck game can surpass starcraft2 game engine.

but still, gameplay > eye candy

this game does not involve physics effect. except for dead units/scraps which is just for eye candy and not affect the game play. i would like to see Terran siege tank do splash damage, sending the enemy units fly and fall down, then the enemy get up and fight back. (Just like Dawn of War). It will be fun.
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QUOTE(johnnycp @ May 28 2007, 12:09 PM)
when is starcraft2 come out?? the ingame graphics cannot beat COH, C&C3, World in Conflict. If they get delay and delay again, all other even suck game can surpass starcraft2 game engine.

but still, gameplay > eye candy

this game does not involve physics effect. except for dead units/scraps which is just for eye candy and not affect the game play. i would like to see Terran siege tank do splash damage, sending the enemy units fly and fall down,  then the enemy get up and fight back. (Just like Dawn of War). It will be fun.
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I don't think they're even trying to beat those games in terms of graphics. Blizzard likes focusing on the graphics in terms of style rather than making it the game with the biggest bling on the planet. Plus, they also cater to lower end systems.

As for the physics effect, DoW doesn't actually use a proper physics engine. When units are flung, its quite often predictable (Technically, ALL games have some form of physics calculation, but its usually very limited). Only a few games actually incorporate a fully realistic physics engine into the game. Total Annihilation and Supreme Commander had full implementation (All projectiles are affected by real world physics and not some cockamamie percentage style) and Age of Empires 3 sorta tried to (Cannonballs would bludgeon anything in their path and its trajectory was affected by terrain)

I don't expect Starcraft 2 to do this since anything uncertain about something would obviously cause the numbers-obsessed Koreans to go stark raving mad. Come to think of it, maybe that's why they don't really like Warcraft 3 (Since this one used number ranges for damage handling instead of the fixed numbers in Starcraft)


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QUOTE(H@H@ @ May 28 2007, 12:45 PM)
I don't think they're even trying to beat those games in terms of graphics. Blizzard likes focusing on the graphics in terms of style rather than making it the game with the biggest bling on the planet. Plus, they also cater to lower end systems.

As for the physics effect, DoW doesn't actually use a proper physics engine. When units are flung, its quite often predictable (Technically, ALL games have some form of physics calculation, but its usually very limited). Only a few games actually incorporate a fully realistic physics engine into the game. Total Annihilation and Supreme Commander had full implementation (All projectiles are affected by real world physics and not some cockamamie percentage style) and Age of Empires 3 sorta tried to (Cannonballs would bludgeon anything in their path and its trajectory was affected by terrain)

I don't expect Starcraft 2 to do this since anything uncertain about something would obviously cause the numbers-obsessed Koreans to go stark raving mad. Come to think of it, maybe that's why they don't really like Warcraft 3 (Since this one used number ranges for damage handling instead of the fixed numbers in Starcraft)
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Speaking of the koreans I still think SC wins over WC3 in Korea is the competitiveness and the skill level in SC. You cant have 5 expansions and 5 battles at once for WC3 yes you can seperate your 3 heros but thats bout it, the hero system causes the tide of the battle whereas in SC every battle and every unit is crucial. If you loose one battle or even a few units in SC it could cost the player his game.
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i hope this game just occupies around 1-2GB in the hard drive. but not sure if my comp can support the game when it releases or not. this comp of mine can't run the c&c: generals
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QUOTE(zephyr07 @ May 28 2007, 07:19 AM)
Guys,
sorry for barging in-  biggrin.gif
does anyone here know the release date in Malaysia?
thinking of spending my summer day finishing the game... sigh

Protoss Rules!!
darn, the invitation video only shows Protoss units,
What happen to the good terrans and the Zerg?

Hmm, zerg..
THe last brood war mission shows the discovery of Zerg + protoss unit in
a stasis cell.
Zerg+Protoss= A Pro Zerg? sweat.gif
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They want to keep zerg/terran units secret first. smile.gif

I hope we get to see some Xel'Naga and play them maybe in a flashback mission.

Has any RTS really used physics for gameplay? If I remember correctly, the aoe3 physics was just eye candy. They'd probably need to raise requirements because if it affects gameplay it'd need to be present even at low graphics.
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It might take an extremely long time to come here. Still undecided when is blizzard is going to come up with game.

The Protoss units are awesome. So cool.
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QUOTE(dos @ May 28 2007, 09:53 PM)
Has any RTS really used physics for gameplay? If I remember correctly, the aoe3 physics was just eye candy. They'd probably need to raise requirements because if it affects gameplay it'd need to be present even at low graphics.
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The only part of AoE 3 that had utilized physics for gameplay was the cannonballs which rolled around and did damage.

The only reason for physics that would affect gameplay is that it provides uncertainty in battle, something the Koreans probably won't like.

Other RTS games that have used physics:
Total Annihilation - Shells fly using real life physics and are affected by gravity. Same goes for debris and other projectiles
C&C 2 - Crashing planes could damage buildings (Lame I know, but it was kinda random)
Battlezone - There was this weapon called the Thumper that could bounce units around and inflict damage upon them. There was also this trebuchet cannon that fired supplies... Pretty inaccurate. Ok, so this isn't a true blue RTS title.

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post May 28 2007, 11:37 PM

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now, i am just waiting for them to release the beta. hehe. hope to join beta again after the sweet experience few years ago joining the frozen throne beta. smile.gif
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post May 29 2007, 06:05 PM

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as long as the graphic is good + good game play is good enough. why bother the physics thingy and bla bla.
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post May 29 2007, 08:06 PM

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beta? when is the beta coming out? next year?
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post May 29 2007, 09:31 PM

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next year @@"
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dono why they release news so fast about sc2 and gonna release next year rclxub.gif make ppl wait until dulan lol
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QUOTE(dos @ May 28 2007, 09:53 PM)

Has any RTS really used physics for gameplay? If I remember correctly, the aoe3 physics was just eye candy. They'd probably need to raise requirements because if it affects gameplay it'd need to be present even at low graphics.
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So far the only game which uses physics as a part of the game is SupCom...the rest are most probably eye candy.

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