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 MRT 3 Canceled. HSR Canceled.

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post Jun 17 2018, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(Ray Leee @ Jun 17 2018, 05:01 PM)
i wonder if they gonna cancel ECRL tho?

wat's your thought about tat? high chances of keeping or high chances to have the same fate as MRT3 & HSR?
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Ercl cannot cancelled already.

Withdrawal fee is myr20bil.
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post Jun 17 2018, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(Shir L @ Jun 17 2018, 05:32 PM)
they r not gonna review MRT2 all of a sudden n announce on its cancellation right?

like i can see its all in the midst of construction already
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MRT2 and LRT3 already too deep into construction already.
some changes still possible like maybe no station opening for Bandar Malaysia. line will just pass through without stopping. why stop at no man land right? who knows.
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post Jun 17 2018, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jun 17 2018, 05:30 PM)
Ercl cannot cancelled already.

Withdrawal fee is myr20bil.
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Better not to throw good money after bad. Rather loss $20b than $50b. $30b saved could spend on more useful infrastructure or tax cut.

This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jun 17 2018, 06:13 PM
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post Jun 17 2018, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jun 16 2018, 04:28 PM)
So meaning that MRT ticket fare is too expensive?
Free = many ppl
Need to pay = below average crowd
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Under the previous administration, they raise the toll price, but at the same time, raise the public transportation rates to make up for the construction costs for the MRT lines and the LRT extensions. The latter shouldn't be raised at all if the gov't wanted to encourage ppl to use them.

I wonder if the Pakatan administration will correct this by lowering the public transportation rates back to the earlier price. I hope that will be possible, but judging by the RM 1 trillion debt hanging over the heads of this administration, I doubt it will be anytime soon. hmm.gif
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post Jun 18 2018, 12:36 AM

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Will there any property wil drop price bcoz of mrt3 and HSR??
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post Jun 18 2018, 10:54 AM

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RM50bil cheaper alternative to KL-S'pore high speed rail by upgrading the present infrastructure

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...r-only-rm20bil/

Seem not bad..this idea

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post Jun 18 2018, 12:00 PM

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if this is the case to RM 20b, use existing KTM railway infrastructure
then is cannot call HSR, should name it " Fast" ETS biggrin.gif
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post Jun 18 2018, 12:53 PM

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this what almost everyone wants..

ETS services using existing tracks (upgraded for higher speed)

there's many reason why najib insisted on HSR.. but one of it we all know because of the $$ involved & the "cut" someone would be getting when project completed whistling.gif
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post Jun 18 2018, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(junbow @ Jun 18 2018, 10:54 AM)
RM50bil cheaper alternative to KL-S'pore high speed rail by upgrading the present infrastructure

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...r-only-rm20bil/

Seem not bad..this idea
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own one line instead of two. to expand in future will cost more. example bakun, you will never build it now if you had not started it 20 years ago.
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post Jun 18 2018, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(junbow @ Jun 18 2018, 10:54 AM)
RM50bil cheaper alternative to KL-S'pore high speed rail by upgrading the present infrastructure

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...r-only-rm20bil/

Seem not bad..this idea
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90 mins vs 130 mins. not much difference to me.
The most important is cheaper and more affordable train tickets.
https://www.train36.com/ktm-route.html

Looking at the route. Looks like places like Bandar Tasik Selatan, TPM (planned new KTM station at Maju KL), Kajang etc may benefits if they go ahead with the new plan.
They may still build a station at Bandar Malaysia as planned?
Looks like Singapore side will still end at Jurong East.

This post has been edited by willyboy88: Jun 18 2018, 01:15 PM
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post Jun 18 2018, 01:29 PM

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QUOTE(willyboy88 @ Jun 18 2018, 01:13 PM)
90 mins vs 130 mins. not much difference to me.
The most important is cheaper and more affordable train tickets.
https://www.train36.com/ktm-route.html

Looking at the route. Looks like places like Bandar Tasik Selatan, TPM (planned new KTM station at Maju KL), Kajang etc may benefits if they go ahead with the new plan.
They may still build a station at Bandar Malaysia as planned?
Looks like Singapore side will still end at Jurong East.
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it's not 90vs130, we are talking about economy booster or game changer. Fortune favors the bold.

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post Jun 18 2018, 01:38 PM

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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Jun 18 2018, 01:29 PM)
it's not 90vs130, we are talking about economy booster or game changer. Fortune favor the bold.
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The BN's HSR plan is not bold enough. It's old tech.
To me to be bold is to build a second generation maglev line or a hyperloop line.
But at this moment , those technology is not mature enough and we dont have the $.


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post Jun 18 2018, 01:40 PM

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QUOTE(willyboy88 @ Jun 18 2018, 01:38 PM)
The BN's HSR plan  is not bold enough. It's old tech.
To me to be bold is to build a second generation maglev line or a hyperloop line.
But at this moment , those technology is not mature enough and we dont have the $.
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this is your opinion
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post Jun 18 2018, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Jun 18 2018, 01:40 PM)
this is your opinion
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Yes. I am entitled to my opinion and you are entitled to yours too.

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post Jun 18 2018, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(willyboy88 @ Jun 18 2018, 01:38 PM)
The BN's HSR plan  is not bold enough. It's old tech.
To me to be bold is to build a second generation maglev line or a hyperloop line.
But at this moment , those technology is not mature enough and we dont have the $.
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this is a public forum. please don't give misleading opinion. you knew the techs are not mature yet you are proposing them. when we wanted to embark any new project, it must be feasible. pre-EIA study has brushed off both maglev and hyperloop options. the facts/reasons are given in the report.

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post Jun 18 2018, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(BEANCOUNTER @ Jun 17 2018, 04:30 PM)
Ercl cannot cancelled already.

Withdrawal fee is myr20bil.
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You may ask all the local engineering firm/contractors involved in the this project about the china company attitude and so on..I believe they will strongly support our new gov cancel the project biggrin.gif
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post Jun 18 2018, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(mroys@lyn @ Jun 18 2018, 12:29 PM)
it's not 90vs130, we are talking about economy booster or game changer. Fortune favors the bold.
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Anyone know how many hours delay for all the buses delay for both way KL-SG yesterday? The answer is at least 4-6hrs..that's the reason many workers in SG KL take leave due to this issues today..dunno our ministers know about it or not biggrin.gif
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post Jun 18 2018, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(planc @ Jun 18 2018, 04:50 PM)
Anyone know how many hours delay for all the buses delay for both way KL-SG yesterday? The answer is at least 4-6hrs..that's the reason many workers in SG KL take leave due to this issues today..dunno our ministers know about it or not biggrin.gif
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Is this 1st time in history happens or many decades already?
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post Jun 18 2018, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(danielmckey @ Jun 18 2018, 03:56 PM)
Is this 1st time in history happens or many decades already?
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Often happen thus we need to upgrade our custom counter and our train KL-SG..PLUS can't cater the traffic flow during holidays
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post Jun 18 2018, 05:22 PM

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Only those never face this issues dun need a better KL-SG train..let's see what is the outcome since SG give a good suggestion now

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